Gradivus Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 11 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehoornde Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 FACT: Rift launch > TOR launch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inseeisyou Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 9. 10 if Project weren't all jacked to ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkeus Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 FACT: Rift launch > TOR launch No, not fact. I was a founder (One of the first subscribers) to Rift. I would actually go no further than: Rift launch = SWTOR launch But better? Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgonKara Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I have heard of plenty of people that hate on SWTOR. -Usually because all the people that played their favorite MMO left to play SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 FACT: Rift launch > TOR launch For that to be a fact the ">" needs to be backed up by numbers. Are you refering to active players? Subscribers? Pre-oders? Critic score? SWTOR leads in all of those numbers. Something isn't a fact just because you say so or wish it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgarr Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Do I? Have I invested 1,000 dollars into TOR? nope. I know it will succeed, surpassed 2 million copies sold already, new content this month, weekly fixes. Proof where most say its worse than rift? My server has never crashed yet in TOR. Rift did, Rift was so laggy that the npc's wouldnt give you quests. I was there. Lol goodbye and use google, it's your friend. Oh and I am really bored now of listening to you, yes you do lose if swtor fails, as yet another fanboy shot down. Look at the amount so far that have had to admit they were wrong lol Oh and you might want to check the ratios of I am leaving to this game is great on the forums compared to rift after 2 weeks of launch. Even if it's a small % who post on mmo forums as you say, those who like games don't post because they are playing, check out rifts forums from the release and compare. Goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperkeepet Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Best game I have ever played TBH. 9/10 BW, You get your 1 more star when you allow cross class weaponry. Edited January 8, 2012 by reaperkeepet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xugos Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 5.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalliah Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Sorry like you have just proven, your view about rift, when more say it was a better launch. Oh that's right, your word is final lol The best thing, I have nothing to lose if swtor fails or does well, you on the other hand have a lot more to lose. Have a nice day. Okay so lets say I decide I like it enough to sub for a while. I play. I enjoy the time playing. I mean why else would I play any game if I didn't enjoy. The at sometime it fails for whatever reason. Because of that it either becomes unplayable or stops existing. What exactly have I 'lost' if the game goes under. Some pixels that were never really material anyways? Well I would have lost the time I put into. But then again if I was enjoying that time and it gave me pleasure then it's not really a loss. It's not like MMOs by nature have some sort of end to get too. I suppose you could say I lost the money I paid but that's similar to time. I was paying for 'fun and recreation' and got that while existed then it's not really losing anything. I play Rift. Still paying for it even though pop wise it seems to be declining. I pay because I still enjoy and do the raiding a few times a week. If it does go completely down the tubes I still haven't really 'lost' anything except the ability to keep doing it. That might be sad and all, especially if it's game you like but really come on now, is losing a 'game' that huge of a loss that can't or won't just be 'found' again in some other game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurainsoph Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 With skill delay 5/10 Without skill delay 8.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Cruiser Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 5/10: +1 for fixing combat/ability glitches +1 for adding a customizable UI, combat log & configurable raid frames +1 for balancing the flashpoints (make all adds & trash mobs heroic level) +1 for adding multi-dimensional end game plot progression +1 for guild tools & perks (gbank, social bonuses, party buffs, etc.) = 10/10 That's not a bad list of changes. If they figured out a way to make PvP less mindnumbingly bad as well and then make it less pointless, might get the game up to a 8/10 or 9/10 for me. I don't have any faith in BioWare or Mythic or whoever it is that's working down in Austin to do that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sznur Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) 4/10 With lots of work, mainly improving performance and ability delay issues it could be 7 or 8. As it is for now I unsubed, maybe will check it again in half year, maybe not. Edited January 8, 2012 by Sznur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyZaMa Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 9/10 Great game. Needs some issues addressed such as Character responsiveness... but I know this stuff will be taken care of because Bioware is a solid dev. Look forward to many years of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pozaa Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 i give it 9.3/10 as long as they keep updating and fixing it, my score is gonna get higher and higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympuz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Still betaversion so 1/10.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovarBoy Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) FACT: Rift launch > TOR launch It's a fact. Rift launch has won PRIZES for being such an amazing launch. You can check it on their homepage. The SW:TOR launch was 1. unfair, 2. horrible, 3. illogical seperated and there are queues left after 3 weeks of release - that IS worse than the Rift launch. Everyone who says that SW:TOR has had a better launch than Rift... sorry, that is not true. Edited January 8, 2012 by LovarBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiry Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 9/10. Very enjoyable game. Ya, there are some bugs and issues, but those will get resolved in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdoll Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) It's a fact. Rift launch has won PRIZES for being such an amazing launch. You can check it on their homepage. The SW:TOR launch was 1. unfair, 2. horrible, 3. illogical seperated and there are queues left after 3 weeks of release - that IS worse than the Rift launch. Everyone who says that SW:TOR has had a better launch than Rift... sorry, that is not true. 1. Not unfair, you should have pre-ordered from day one when they announced that they would do that. 2. Define your horrible, why is it horrible to you. 3. What queues? I havent had a queue since the 25th EDIT: I looked at their awards, nothing states being the best launch. Edited January 8, 2012 by darthdoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbodzioch Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 10/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalacticKegger Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) That's not a bad list of changes. If they figured out a way to make PvP less mindnumbingly bad as well and then make it less pointless, might get the game up to a 8/10 or 9/10 for me. I don't have any faith in BioWare or Mythic or whoever it is that's working down in Austin to do that though.Thx. The multi-dimensional end game plot progression idea would (theoretically) combine PvE with PvP. Segments of a raid instance could take place in war zones with the PvP battles not only providing the backdrop, but also affecting the Raid party's gameplay. Key raid mobs could be queued opposite-faction PvPers, and any damage space combat does on a space-based raid instance would have real time effects on the party's environment - and health if it takes a direct hit. Just thinking out loud . . . Edited January 8, 2012 by GalacticKegger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCynic Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 5.5/10 as an MMO 8/10 as a game, for a single player. I just switched form a 6-month sub to a 1-month sub, if things improve Ill go right back to a 6-month. I think the major problem is everything on the 4th-pillar, story, the story is GREAT and epic....but its totally solo single player focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samborino Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 8.5/10 I love this game, and i think that they will fix some of the issues very soon and I will think its a 10. To be honest i havent had any game breaking issues, and the only time i really notice the responsiveness issue is with the ability take cover on my smuggler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovarBoy Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) 1. Not unfair, you should have pre-ordered from day one when they announced that they would do that. 2. Define your horrible, why is it horrible to you. 3. What queues? I havent had a queue since the 25th EDIT: I looked at their awards, nothing states being the best launch. 1. It was - you knew only months after potential pre-order date that it's used for your headstart 2. Horrible? Lagging servers, unending queues, the guild launch program was totally absurd they put all guilds on roughly ~ 10 servers 3. Queues? Jar'Kai sword has right now a 25min queue That are the prizes Rift earned: IncGamers – Best Games of 2011 – #21 BioBreak - Best Launch & Most Improved EGM - Biggest Surprise Gamasutra - Top 5 PC Games of 2011 GamesRadar - Most Massviely Multiplayer Game Gameswelt.de – Spiel des Jahres GamingXP - Online Game of the Year IGN - Best PC Persistent/ MMO Game JeuxVideo.com - Best MMORPG 2011 MMO Reviews - Top 10 Best MMOs – #3 MMOCrunch - Best MMORPG MMOCrunch - Best New MMORPG MMORPG Hispano – Best MMORPG 2011 MMOPRIME.de – Spiel des Jahres 2011 MMORPG.com - Game of the Year VideoGamer - Most Important MMO of 2011 Ten Ton Hammer - Reader’s Choice Source: http://community.riftgame.com/de/2012/01/06/rift-sweeps-awards-in-2011/ Hope you don't mind that it's the German article. I don't know how people can compare the Rift launch to the SW:TOR launch - there were so much differences between the launches... differences in quality and support. Edited January 8, 2012 by LovarBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeti Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 From what i've experienced 6/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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