XenonParsec Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 lol i been playin a sorc for almost a year... death field isn't woth the point spent to pick it up. Just because people do things for a long time doesn't mean they get any good at it. I frown on spending more than 18 points in madness (for PvP) but you seriously think an instacast aoe that does big damage and heals you isn't worth ONE talent point? C'mon now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ythera Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 This is my build that I've been tweaking on with a focus on Lightning, and it works wonders for me in PvE.http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201Zfcr0doruzZcMcRs0z.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeXiF Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 So I guess lightning isn't a viable pvp spec at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaucho Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 So I guess lightning isn't a viable pvp spec at all? Yes it is, but currently there is a skill lag bug which makes your main attack take a long time to start doing the job its suppose to. For now Hybrid Madness/L is better. Give it time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dummied Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Just curious as to what the stat priority is. Willpower > Accuracy > Power > Crit > Alacrity > Surge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garricus Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Just curious as to what the stat priority is. Willpower > Accuracy > Power > Crit > Alacrity > Surge? I would say Willpower > Crit > Surge > Power > Accuracy > Alacrity. The reason why Accuracy is low on the importance is I don't see a way to get 110% accuracy which would be needed for it to be effective in pvp. I stacked crit and surge on my toon last night and notice a big jump in damage. Pulling almost 6k crits with deathfield and chainlighting. I'm trying to figure out a way to stack accuracy. I know a marauder that stacks it on my server, and he rips apart tanks like it is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellegren Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I stacked crit and surge on my toon last night and notice a big jump in damage. Pulling almost 6k crits with deathfield and chainlighting. Welcome to the club! I realized as soon as I finished my Champion gear that there just wasn't enough Surge on the pvp items, so I switched out my Earpiece and Implants with masterwork crafted ones and put Surge augments in them all. Next step is to get extra pairs of the champ gloves and helm and pull those mods and enhancements out and swap out the ones in the rest of the set until I get my stats optimized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhfi Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Looks awesome, definitely going to try this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapMcCrash Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Does it also work in PvE, or only PvP ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwnyride Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Does it also work in PvE, or only PvP ? Its great in PVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walex Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Does it also work in PvE, or only PvP ? I switched from a full lightning spec to this Hybrid Madness/DPS spec. Suddenly I could take down mobs like butter and Khem (and my friends playing tanks in flashpoints) couldn't seem to hold agrro anymore. So I'd say it's also great for PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinok Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Garricus, With regard to your links Can you post a reakdown of the name of each piece, and what Mod, Enchance, Aug, and Armoring you have within them (unless you did and I missed it) "PVP Stats:http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...tellviaPVP.jpg PVE Stats:http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...tellviaPVE.jpg" Im going to swap over to your spec the second I hit 50, just curious what kind of money Imma have to dish out for respec if anyone knows In earlier posts it seemed you stated power was greater than Crit but now you seem to indicate you feel Crit and Surge are greater. I'm lvl 47 and my damage is just shy of 400, but my crit is only 24 and multiplier is only 57%, so my gear has a long way to go, but knowing what you have at each slot would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwnyride Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Garricus, With regard to your links Can you post a reakdown of the name of each piece, and what Mod, Enchance, Aug, and Armoring you have within them (unless you did and I missed it) "PVP Stats: http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...tellviaPVP.jpg PVE Stats: http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...tellviaPVE.jpg" Im going to swap over to your spec the second I hit 50, just curious what kind of money Imma have to dish out for respec if anyone knows In earlier posts it seemed you stated power was greater than Crit but now you seem to indicate you feel Crit and Surge are greater. I'm lvl 47 and my damage is just shy of 400, but my crit is only 24 and multiplier is only 57%, so my gear has a long way to go, but knowing what you have at each slot would be nice. If u havent respeced b4 then it should be free otherwise it goes up accordingly, but i think the cost resets each week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CicadaDDR Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 hit 50 yesterday; switching from pve healspec to pvp spec. tried madness build early on in leveling; didnt like it much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garricus Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Welcome to the club! I realized as soon as I finished my Champion gear that there just wasn't enough Surge on the pvp items, so I switched out my Earpiece and Implants with masterwork crafted ones and put Surge augments in them all. Next step is to get extra pairs of the champ gloves and helm and pull those mods and enhancements out and swap out the ones in the rest of the set until I get my stats optimized. Yea I've gotten so many extra pieces I was able to take out all the crit/surge pieces and put them in all my gear. Almost every piece is crit/surge. I also use rakata offhand and earpiece, and implant. Unfortunately with the new nerfs coming for Biochem, and pvp buffs, it will be almost impossible to get a 5k crit Does it also work in PvE, or only PvP ? Works very well in pve, I pull aggro from tank if I am not careful, and I finish my boss first in EV (4th boss encounter) I switched from a full lightning spec to this Hybrid Madness/DPS spec. Suddenly I could take down mobs like butter and Khem (and my friends playing tanks in flashpoints) couldn't seem to hold agrro anymore. So I'd say it's also great for PvE. Glad you like it. Garricus, With regard to your links Can you post a reakdown of the name of each piece, and what Mod, Enchance, Aug, and Armoring you have within them (unless you did and I missed it) "PVP Stats: http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...tellviaPVP.jpg PVE Stats: http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...tellviaPVE.jpg" Im going to swap over to your spec the second I hit 50, just curious what kind of money Imma have to dish out for respec if anyone knows In earlier posts it seemed you stated power was greater than Crit but now you seem to indicate you feel Crit and Surge are greater. I'm lvl 47 and my damage is just shy of 400, but my crit is only 24 and multiplier is only 57%, so my gear has a long way to go, but knowing what you have at each slot would be nice. Yea sure, been busy getting the blackvulars unofficial server forums kickstarted, but when I find time I will post my new gear and stats, as well as each mod etc. Yes power is strong, as there is no cap for it, but crit/surge seems to be aweosme for this build. I find that affliction crits more, giving me lightning barrage more frequently. My highest crit was from a death field doing 5.9k. I would recommend getting a power adrenal and relic, but as for mods and enhancements, I'd go crit/surge. I've probably spent 300k pulling mods and such out and placing it in my pvp gear to maximize crit/surge. If u havent respeced b4 then it should be free otherwise it goes up accordingly, but i think the cost resets each week It's weird how the respec fees reset each week. I don't know if they respec on tuesday after servers restart or not. I was told 1 week from the last time you respec, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have respeced like 5 times in a week, because I go dps and healing often for pvp and raids, and costs cap at 99k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garricus Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 Does anyone know how to get this thread stickied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapMcCrash Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Well guys, THANKS a lot! I will definetly go this way!Little question to Garicus, did you apply any changes to your build, since "the first page of the thread" ?And where can I change the points I have already spend in my SPEC, cause i put two points in Reserves, before reading this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garricus Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 You can go to the curator in the combat area to reset your points, but if you are not level 50, then don't worry about respeccing until 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athred Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Do you recommend this for a level 26 and maybe higher? Will it be good enough if I start building it? And how is your healing with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzilla Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Did you grab all of Force Masters or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDerpDerp Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) 23L/18M does not give you 30-50% more survivability. Half the time the extra 2 cc's won't affect the target cause they have a full resolve bar, or they have a gap closer. You gain maybe an extra 5s to live if someone is really going after you. I'd rather hit them hard and leave them with DOT's if I'm going to die. 1) yes it does, and if you don't agree then the smugglers/shadows you are facing are laughably bad. Trz on my server would absolutely churn this specs butter. 3 second reactive stun on a broken barrier is an absolute godsend vs. stealth stunlock openers. I've run your spec, and there's no 'I'm captain lone wolf' about it. You get eaten by semi coordinated combinations of melee. (i.e. 2 melees running together). Also, the best part of the barrier is that it's aoe. 2) aoe root overload has caused the extra 5 seconds needed to prevent 3+ people turning the corner in void star to allow the bomb plant/bridge cross countless times...while still having your 2 cc's on top for cc breakers. 3) back to melee, without the extra cc, frankly, you aren't fighting melee that are worth a lick. 4) AOE ROOT INTO FIRE IN HUTTBALL is just epic lulz. Sooo much more utility survivability in 23L/18M. But yes. Yours can do deeps. With worse gear (only 5 champ pieces) I guess I'll have to settle for my 425k void stars. =/ -Blight (Ajunta Pall) Edited January 16, 2012 by DarthDerpDerp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telos Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Just because people do things for a long time doesn't mean they get any good at it. I frown on spending more than 18 points in madness (for PvP) but you seriously think an instacast aoe that does big damage and heals you isn't worth ONE talent point? C'mon now. just fyi... i was the one in beta trying to tell all the other sorcerers how awesome the madness/lightning hybrid spec was while they were all no way dude thunder blast hits hard!!!11!!1! and i was like, i'll do about twice as much damage just with chain lightning spam for less than half the force cost while you sit there waiting for thundering blast to finish it's cd, plus i get instacast zero force cost crushing darkness. what now?? it's good to see the rest of you fall in line, tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garricus Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Did you grab all of Force Masters or what? Yea I have a set of Force Master's and Mystic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysithslayer Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Awesome build nothing quite like it. So glad we have a viable hybrid spec since I usually prefer to play those than the usual max out xx tree for epic dps. I leveled in Madness up to Wrath, then Lightning up to CL than went straight back to madness for the rest of my skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeXiF Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Sooo much more utility survivability in 23L/18M. But yes. Yours can do deeps. With worse gear (only 5 champ pieces) I guess I'll have to settle for my 425k void stars. =/ -Blight (Ajunta Pall) Doesn't compare to my 500k+ damage as 0/13/28 in void star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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