You will be only person playing it still yelling I dont see any declines or problems with the game...You been most vocal about no problems with game and no declines and look were that got it, only reason it still even has the sub numbers is the free times hasnt ran out, most us just post on forms and dont even play the game. Diablo 3 out tomorrow gg SWTOR. Continue trying to stop the sinking ship alone, iim sure you dont have enough buckets and arms. SWTOR = Flop, next game time.

More has been lost than that, they just have fluffed up statistics by the free month subs they count subs that are still going even if players never log in anymore.

Diablo 3 is out in 3 days they about to lose alot more people, dead servers even more they took to long, diablo 3 will be a great game and people will play it for months specially since blizzard let those whom want to live of the game able too.

you honestly think the reason we all left was ranked wzs, what add in new gear and ranks and suddenly the boring game is fun? we left because the game sucks was rushed has to many problems and lacks important features but the key factor is people leave from BORDOM.

MAMMON should not = FUN money should not be part of gaming at all, the initial cost of the game is all that should ever be done and mmos should just release content as expansions. Just because the games bigger doesnt mean it needs to be subscription based. This world we live in is so focused on greed that everything is about money, money is the MARK OF THE BEAST, mankind worship it IMAGE by being subserviant to it... Anyone whom wants MONEY to be included in the world has sold their souls to the Adversary...

Actually look into it, it been said that the company broke up so the teams which worked on originally bauldersgate, dragonage etc left. Why do you think it been downhill since... Not obvious that the original tallent is gone, you know also EA has just recently sacked more people from SWTOR team too.

Your a defender. But if you dont believe that then your in denial of your own view.

Bioware isnt even around anymore, not sure you know it but the original developers left for other companys and it a split company now, the name being used as a selling point that why they stuffed up DA2, ME3 and now SWTOR basically ruining the entire repetation of bioware, hence many people wont even look at their games anymore thanks to EA the virus of gaming.

maybe because the game is evil, not good for a persons spirit. A choice is a choice always remember that wether it be in real life or a virtual life it still "YOUR" choice you are accountable.

Players shouldnt be doing the bug work. or this still in beta like some claim.

He basically saying that a pile of crap with a starwars logo is good in his mind. Hence why the entire selling point for why SWTOR is good is STARWARS.

Soon enough you will be one those complaining about it. alot of the original defenders for the game turned into attackers of the game.

You must be blind do a google search you will get over 700,000 results of complaints.

Ea has torpedo another company out of the water in their quest for domaniance in gaming. Honestly Biowares repetation has been destroyed now and it is said by some that not even original Bioware is together anymore so it might been a mix of mythic and bioware and some others.

Get it correct over a year of 500k needed for profitability, the profit begins a year later.

All MMO should be F2P but not allow anything bought to dramatically change gameplay, all content of game needs accessable but things for vanity and other things which dont directly affect other peoples gameplay, such as experience boasts or pets or things irelevant to main game play should be included. Also expansions should be only main thing to buy which would depend on size I think larger expansions over yearly periods is better than smaller updates at small costs, so expansion yearly should be about 50. Now people need to realise something nearly all the money they get from subs is profit in the end it doesnt take much to maintain the servers in comparsons to what they get, the truth is your being scammed by subs, MMO should never have been subscription based and it just a lie that companys wanted you to believe that it had to be to maintain a good game, that isnt true specially being 2012 with much more advanced technologys and easier cheaper access. f2p is the future and all MMO must adopt it, a law should be made that subscription based games should not be permited it been a scam the entire time. They can even use it for finanical reports from subs whom quit as long their sub isnt yet finished, such things should be illegal and I pray a law comes to stop companys malipulating the consumers.

If sound isnt working and it not fixed soon just quit, the game has so many problems to it, it needed another year of development before even hitting beta. I personally have unsubbed due to all the problems going to spend my time in diablo 3.

Stop comparing a game from 8yrs ago with a game in 2012, before Molten Core such types of raids never even existed in mmo gaming industry, honestly you cant compare revolutionary ideas to modern times. The fact is if a game cant have the basics down and add something more they are a failure. Hence SWTOR is slowly decaying because it failed to deliver a game of year 2012 when our technology is so much more advanced, ffs we have hand held phones that do everything a computer can do now days that stuff wasnt around when WOW first came out. Standards are much higher now days.

The final cost was over 300 million.

They are stuck in subs which already payed for that how, but dont enjoy the game but it still counts as subs... Why does that even need explained.

There is no debate the truth is the truth, people in denial doesnt change the situation. If there wasnt a problem people wouldnt be speaking about it all over internet.

I agree. Maybe Titan when it comes out the starcraft mmo blizzard may be working on will be something good for us all hasnt been a keeper in long time, even gw2 might not be all it was advertised to be. I think ill go play diablo 3 for a few months till mop is out.

IF it truely was free to play yes if it microtransactions not really. Honestly mmos are the worse thing to ever come to gaming. For simple fact it costs consumers to much money.

It has some randomed generated quests also .

Games shouldnt always be about making money, greedy companys deserve to fall there corrupted foundation can only last so long.