please stop, seriously just stop lol... agian re-check your numbers... hint: starts w/ an "L" and ends in "ineage" no hate but much love brother... this was fun night, differences in our ummm lets say beliefs but you have a good night or day... its 7:10 am here and my eyes can't seem to stay up... btw, site and graphs is unreliable... lineage 2 hit 14 mill subs or maybe they don't take asian subs into consideration.

with that i'm out, re-check your numbers brother... no more than 700k subs lol, i still can't stop laughing... thats classic.

you made my night! awesome, thank you...

I go in circles??? here are some games still popular w/ low pop ok? FF XI, DAoC, Lineage 1/2, GW (some may agree not true mmo), CoH and of course still going strong w/ low pop Ultima online (cudos for hall of fame)... and might i say all successful... again... f2p model increases pop, for how long varries and it will fall, i assure you it will, thats all i'm stating... f2p will save this game, if they don't... remember SW galaxies? what happened? and again ppl will leave if it goes f2p but i assure you more ppl will play this game and once again "sigh" its a fact.

you should be in politics, really you should... we went from rise in population now to success, and no I'm not saying all f2p games are successful just stating to what i'm been stating that once a game goes to f2p model population rises... geez only thing we agree on is what i was thinking about you... Naivety or stupidity.

maybe just maybe because the answer is none... and yes we are done.

ahhh only response you can give me... I proved my point and backed it up, still waiting on yours, show me a game that population has not changed or actully got worse after switching to f2p model? you simply can't... so back to your past post about fact, it is a fact...

not falsify but not saying its 100% accurate.. and here is my proof... CoH - http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/25/city-of-heroes-rejoices-in-f2p-success-even-as-it-mourns-statesm/ AoC - http://www.gamespot.com/news/age-of-conan-doubles-revenue-since-going-f2p-6328481 CO - http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/02/17/champions-online-gains-profits-and-players-as-a-free-to-play/ Aion - just went f2p not too long ago, will prove pop rise after numbers are in, thanks. anyother games you need me to prove f2p raises pop? and also revenue (ehhhem bioware/lucas)

lol, aion pop did rise after it went f2p, so did AoC, CoH and CO and once again for how long it took for the pop to drop is another matter... "sigh" and the graphs are 100% accurate right? show me ur proof that the graph is 100% legit... its a standstill at best. btw, the graphs that was pointed out... doesn't show exactly when that game went f2p its too broad from year to year...

f2p will make pop rise, EVERY game that went sub to f2p has seen pop rise, FACT... how long it last and falls and it will fall (another Fact) is another story... but enough of this thread, if i say u win can we stop now before i see this Greetings everyone, We know that many of our players are interested in talking about subscription models for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™. You may want to join that conversation, already in progress, here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=370289 We will be closing this thread now. Thank you for your feedback!

You are correct, so make it f2p and see population rise (thats a fact), but how long it rises, stabalizes and falls will vary... esp with stiff competetion w/ furtue mmo's coming out this year. btw, you were the one who mentioned popular, for some odd reason.

i could stand corrected...I have seen them somewhere online myself, lets say those are accurate, well AoC stop'd somewhere in between 2010-2011... but Aion is the only one i can compare it to and it still has a bigger population than swtor... so yes i still stick w/ f2p will save swtor, for how long, dunno lol

we were talking about making it popular? thought it was to save the game... well i was mistaken

All the good ones were taken... I chose "Classified" for title only, looks horrid as a last name lol

funny how you named 2 games that lost pop (one released in 04 and the other in 09) lol, here are games that gained pop... Aion, AoC, DDO, LoR... just a few off the top of my head right now...