Honestly, for awhile I felt like SWTOR achieved that. Before my progression guild moved to FF14 there was a pretty big competitive raiding scene, rife with drama and enormous epeens. SWTOR raiders now only depend on their class knowledge and the strategies created by their predecessors long ago. There's no such thing as progression raiding here. "Hardcore SWTOR raiders" are jokes, or bored raiders wasting their time. They've decided to take SWTOR in another direction, it sucks and I'll complain all I want but I do not think it'll ever change.

FF14 combat is different for sure, but once you play for long enough you learn that it's more proactive than reactive. It's based around precision and the level of play of EVERYONE in your group. A single screw up of *any* kind can wipe the group in the hardest content. Needless to say, completing "NiM" FF14 raids have been historically out of reach for midcore and casual players simply based on how much is expected of each and every raid member. They tamed it down in the last set of "NiM" bosses, but people complained so they'll be amping it back up next expansion and creating midcore content.

I hope I was one of those people. At least for a short time. I remember you were in my first guild. Then you were DWBI's daddy. I still think you're cool and adult-y Khevar. BTW Mauduin says hi and that he misses you

Is it complicated? I don't remember having any trouble BUT I signed up at launch and that was quite awhile ago. Probably wont help you, but maybe someone else, you register a SE account here: https://secure.square-enix.com/oauth/oa/registligt?response_type=code&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fsecure.square-enix.com%2Faccount%2Fapp%2Fsvc%2Ftop%3Frequest%3Dmogstation&client_id=ffxiv_mog Then go to mog station https://secure.square-enix.com/oauth/oa/oauthlogin?response_type=code&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fsecure.square-enix.com%2Faccount%2Fapp%2Fsvc%2Ftop%3Frequest%3Dmogstation&client_id=ffxiv_mog&facflg=1 I think needing the SE account first has something to do with the game being multi-platform? I only play on the PC though so I can only guess how signing up for the console version works. P.S. PC master race.

Once you taste FF14's endgame – joined the bustling raiding community there – there's no reason to come back to SWTOR besides story (if you enjoyed it in the first place) and maybe some nostalgic raiding here and there...after a few years pass. EDIT for those interested in FF14 raiding: The largest unofficial NA raiding server is Gilgamesh. Sadly it is locked almost 247 due to overpopulation. Best to create a character on another server then transfer it(which bypasses the lock), or wait till right after maintenance as it's usually unlocked for a short time after. There's many other dedicated raiding servers of course, but I still suggest Gilgamesh. It's jam packed with raiders including many of the world's best... it's raider heaven.

Nope. MINE! Let me execute all the ex-pubs under my command and I'll be happy.

I suppose I'm lucky my mains a sorc. The story was pretty damn amazing to me, even though I still prefer the Sith Empire to the Eternal Alliance. And I also wish I could have kept calling it the Eternal Empire... Anyway... try out FF14. Not only do the devs create NiM content at a regular pace, but they also tip their hats to aka mention world first groups. They respect hardcore and casual raiders alike. In the next expansion(which they're already sharing information about) they're also going to focus on midcore raiders; the people who fall between causal and hardcore. Also I'd say FF14's release of content rivals WoWs.

I want the Sith Empire. :/ It belongs to me! Let me kill the Empress or force her to marry me. Don't know if a marriage could work out between two sith, but that doesn't matter really. Just give me my damn Empire. I couldn't care less about the alliance.

Both my SWTOR and FF14 guildies call it the Eternal Grind.

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Good to know that it can be worse. I'm motivated to get rank 300 now?

Not surprised you still have some crap gear. This is what I expected.

Breaking conditioning lmfao Tldr of the OP: I dont think somethings fun, you shouldnt think its fun either ok

#bringQuinnback

No. The SW stories -- both the old and new ones -- have been the main reason I've resubbed every now and again to this game. My secondary reason has been to replay harder content for nostalgia -- and even that comes with a lot of SW story goodness. "Sanity is a prison let madness release you!" "Spin ever downward. Fall. Disappear." Legit, despite my primary guild quitting this game and hating on it, we still shout out quotes like this every now and again mid-FF14 raids. Just nope. I will never play another MMO with anything remotely similar to the GC system. The fact that the GC system is currently the only way to get BiS armourings makes it even worse. And the fact that everyone knows that PvP will be vastly better to gear in than PvE in 5.1... Not to mention the two years without raiding content... jesus.

My guild crafted most of my gear, but I don't want to lose my set bonus so my amourings will more than likely be upgraded through PvP in 5.1.

I still think its funny. Funniest conversation Ive seen since the expansion hit: After the first boss in an Uprising New Guy: "no loot" Guy 2: "5.0 in a nutshell" Another good conversation with a different new guy: New Guy: "so u can only get gear with this GC ****???" Me: "lol yeah and theres 300 ranks" New Guy has disconnected Lmfao I dont know if him disconnecting at that point was coincidental, but it was funny.

Wait... what? Something being flawed doesn't suggest it's beyond repair. Why would you...? Well it doesn't to me anyway. For example flaws in clothing can be repaired, and quite easily too depending on what and where they're.

Since theres been no ops for two years, Im guessing there wont be any again. I dont think the devs think ops are needed or desired otherwise this wouldnt have happened. I dont wish it, but sometimes I wonder what would happen if SWTOR did what FF14 did. Fire the whole dev team and start fresh. Would we start to get new Ops? Could the raiding commuinity recover at this point even if they did? Personally, my money is on them adding 4 and 8 man Uprisings.

I dont know about you but I found getting over 20 chests in a row of garbage gear highly motivating. It makes me want to grind out more garbage. Also I cant wait till I roll the RNG dice again and see no drops on all Op bosses save the last. That'll motivate me to raid even harder.

I don't understand why they don't just have earlier bosses drop lesser upgrades. You know, like bracers or belt for the first boss. Build up to the bigger upgrades. Why does everything have to be RNG hell?

So in reality it's going to be 1st boss 0% 2nd boss 0% 3rd boss 0% 4th boss 0% Final boss 100% Looks like I'm going to be PvPing most of the time... again. If ops have this system, gearing through PvP is most likely going to be vastly superior. Honestly, it's a good thing I temper my expectations when it comes to this game.

Class Story: Imperial Agent Voice: Male Imperial Agent. Hands down. Best. Voice. Favorite character is Lokin. I love how he isn't always straightforward. Sometimes he enjoys getting a raise out of you too. Like when he comments on your eating habits; if you tell him to bugger off he gets this little smirk on his face that's perfect. Also I identify with the passion Lokin has for his work, but in other areas of my life. Quinn and Talos are tied for my second favorite characters.

This is how BW has always worked. They always nerf a spec into the ground because whatever reason, then rebuff it, then nerf it again etc. btw inb4 "it's impossible to balance all mmos have the same issue" Go play FF14 please. They had issues at the start, and when they released new classes, but they've always fixed things. FF14 class balance is near perfect most of the time, and DPS rotations are much more complicated there. Anyway, tldr always expect one spec to be complete **** in PvP and/or PvE because BW cannot balance.

All my alien companions. Also give me Quinn BW.