Wow, Powertech and Shadows ect had so much fun facerolling before 1.2. Can't we Marauders have a little more fun before you guys start whining? Give us 6 more months then you can nerf us.

The world is gonna end, oh noes. I bet no one is laughing at the fact that they could be losing money for this. Nothing about that is funny. It's just one of those things. Better to get it right than never at all.

Georg I know the team wants to save some of the discoveries for suprises but what about the imfamous white crystals? Are they much easier to get/harder? I have the idea of creating a Miraluka Sith Inquistor with white gear and white saber or maybe one for my main. I would create an Inquisitor now and buy the crystal but I want the Miraluka and that requires 1.2 to do it. What will happen with the white crystals after the vendor is gone?

1 It's coming but they are working on a way to do t so it does'nt create a barrier of entry for people in guilds (Kicking people for simply not doing enoughDPS ect). Someone did just release a raid wide combat log you can downloa now though. 2 Coming 3 Coming 4 No info on it but im sure it's coming, let them balance the freakin game first? 5 Coming 6 Coming 7 Coming 8 Coming 9 COMING!!!!!! 10 No info but I would assume it's coming but let them get the current warzones in place and in check before they start doing 10 v 10. Above all your solutions to your complaints are in the works and most are fixed in 1.2 so I really don't know what your complaining about. Legacy System is a small feature compared to the content and fixes in 1.2, most of it is improvments to the overal game overshadow the 1.2 patch. If you took out legacy you would'nt notice so people need to chill. Roleplayers are also a nice chunk of MMO players out there, ignoring them just for the hardcore would be a fatal mistake. The way I see it your just looking at the legacy system as a whole and that would be a mistake. If you look at the PTS patch notes it's roughly 90% fixes and improvments and 10% Legacy System. Some of the things your asking for requires balancing and your getting a lot of that in 1.2. Ilum is on the drawing board again thats gonna take months to redesign so you might as well forget it for now.

I think everyone here is being shortsighted about this feature. When things like this get developed there is usually a much bigger plan in the works. Iimagine in game story that allows you to face off with your alts or meet them in your story arc? Imagine being a Jedi fighting your Sith alt as an Antagonist. Bioware hints at this with their Legacy System video just recently when they say how cool it would be to have a luke vs Darth Vader episode. Im sure the Legacy System will allow that as time goes by. Also they plan to have more rewards for it in the future. I do agree that it would be nice for us to see everyones family tree via inspect. Also the ability to create a small Bio about you would be cool.

I realy don't see the big deal here. This nerf is primarily for Operations and Flashoints in order to give players a challange and make Healers a more focused role in these situations. Most HM operation bosses (the really nasty ones) take 10 to 15 minutes or so to kill thats roughly 4 to 7 medpacs in one fight. per person Add good healers and if your well organized, no one with decent gear and experience should wipe. Thats too easy. In PvP you almost always will use only 1 medpac per fight if necessary. In most cases you may not survive a 3 to 4 player gank on you even if you use a medpac, if your not buffed up the arse your gonna die regardless. Like I said, I think it's not a big deal. Just makes thigns interesting.

Try not to pay attention to the whiners and the elitest who think doing hardmodes 24/7 makes them special. They are just mad because they are playing by the rules and when someone finds a way thats better than theirs, they feel the need to knock it off as a newb tactic to make themselves feel better. It's just an ego thing. Ignore the whiners.

The world does'nt revolve around your bad internet connection my friend. First solve your problem then come back and talk about solutions. Thank you.

Nice one Bioware. I thought it was hilarious. especially the kissing droid part.

There are some nerfs too my friend. Force Camoflauge now has 50% damage reduction instead of 100% Depending on who you play and how you look at it it's a nerf if you don't consider the offset buff to it such as increased stealthed time and speed. But I mostly used this to get out of sticky situations such as being pushed in an acid pool. I guess I could use undying but it kind of kills the point. We'll see.

Thats not the point. In the context of family bloodlines, we know that many members of a family tree have similar traits. This is the idea behind the Legacy System. All your nerdy references to the backstory is irrelvant. we know Anakin was strong in the force, there for we know Luke was as well. The details on how powerful and stuff is based off of irrelivant information a moot point. If you get pwned in PvP assuming you loss a lot of blood or an arm or whatever (if you roleplay) should your children be weak in the force? Legacy System is not designed that way. Legacy is a fun addition to your gameplay experience (Their words not mine), I doubt it's meant to be 100% accurate to the lore.

Assuming you play all your 50's hardcore, you must have a lot of money. If that is the case you can buy a lot of these unlocks for cash Of course if you filled all 8 slots you won't be able to try the new species unlocks unless you delete a character OR they open up new slots which according to the devs is not in the immediate future. The Legacy system is about grinding with new alts easier. If anyone is paying attention (Not talking directly to you though) thats the point of Legacy. It's to make playign through the new stories less of a pain. It basically makes creating alts more fun. Again if you want to grind a new species you can purchase them outright and get started which is probably gonna be folks main method of unlocking species cuz playing

Finally a restraining bolt!!!! Can't wait to shut him up!!!!

What they are saying when they say it's a "l2p" issue is that it's not just about the abilities people use, it's about your surroundings. Simply put your not paying attention to your surroundings. You should always be aware of where everyone is. If you see a Shadow or BH near the acid, it should be more than obvious that you should never fight near them. If you must, expect the pull eventually. EVERYONE gets pulled into the acid. It's not like we don't know what we are talking about. The reason why we got pulled in is because we weren't paying attention. But lets face it, if your a Marauder, you have more than enough tools againts that tactic. you got tools to survive the acid. I survive the acid pull 80% of the time. Sometimes getting out and beating the very guy that pulled me. So it's not impossible. Having stims helps as well. As for the guys that stand in the acid while they pull you in. There is some changes to the acid traps that should help remedy that.

Perhaps you guys werent touched for two reasons. 1 - Most classes that you gave trouble with the most are not buffed (Namley Sith Warriors). 2 - Patch notes and patch overall is not complete. Just saying we have a long way to go before live.

But from my understanding it's only tier 2 mods not all. So changing mods may have some limitations. My biggest problem is how un-iconic this gear looks. Most of this gear looks like they were World of Warcraft reject designs.

To be honest while this all makes good conversation and gossip, it's only day one PTS and we still got a loooooong way to go before live. A lot of you forget that these guys have several versions of the patch, not just one. And may rotate different versions or part of them to see what works. These have all been tested internally so everything you see now may not be there next week. It's the reason why it's on the test server and NOT live. A lot of people and I mean a lot of them rush to conclusion because they see in the PTS unfavorable changes their class or another recieved but people just need to calm down and wait till the class is tested thoughly. It's easy to play theory cruncher and come up with hypothetical situations untested. Several high level 50 classes have already got copies of their mains on the PTS and testing them now. Im sure the feedback they give will be taken seriously. So everyone needs to chill and let this thing marinate a bit. Don't go changing mains and wasting your time before you know the real outcome.

You guys do realize things may change over time. It's not like we are gonna see changes next week, this is gonna be on the PTS for quite a while and you have guilds testing it now at level 50. So if there are any imbalances they will be addressed. They probably went extream so they can tone it down bit by bit along side every class so they don't end up having one op class over another. SO relax and let the test go. As a matter of fact come on to PTS and help us test it and voice yoru opinion instead of whining in the forums about something you haven't tried yet.

Star Wars The Old Republic: Revenge of the Sith Warriors That is all.

Why is everyone on this guys nuts? Do you realize how many MMO companies do this already? I still get emails from Age of Conan trying to entice me to come back. I guess it hasn't worked but I am curious. The idea is a great idea and I see nothing wrong with it. For those not buisness savvy this practice helps retain your customers. They know people leave for a number of reasons regardless of who's fault it is so they do things like a "Hey come back we made some great changes." Give you a week pass, log your old character and see whats up. I really see nothing wrong with this, I think you guys are just on his nuts for nothing and need to chill.

I’ve always liked the idea behind changing forms in saber combat but I have two major problems with your forms. First off because the forms reflect mostly what tree your speced in, it tends to render other forms useless. For example as a Marauder, I don’t ever see any good reason to leave Juyo since I am an Annihilation spec. I’d like to see these forms useful in more dynamic situations which could benefit in pvp and pve on the fly regardless of spec. Secondly, each style visually is not represented correctly or as we star wars fans would expect. Everyone holds the saber the same way in that class. I’d like to see variations of those stances and change as well as the animation (balancing the speed of course so it’s the same regardless). It would be a cosmetic change but a welcomed one. Here are the seven forms of Lightsaber combat I got from Wookiepedia. Form I: Shii-Cho http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_I:_Shii-Cho Form II: Makashi http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_II:_Makashi Form III: Soresu http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_III:_Soresu Form IV: Ataru http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_IV:_Ataru Form V: Shien and Djem So http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_V:_Shien_/_Djem_So Form VI: Niman http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_VI:_Niman Form VII: Vaapad http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_VII:_Juyo_/_Vaapad I would love to see this visually represented in the game somehow, it would be quite a treat.

Here is a tissue to wipe that brown off your nose buddy.

Buffs and nerfs are important regardless. If they did'nt happen, people will just /faceroll certain classes that are only good for the sake of winning. This is the point of balance, not the class itself but the overal game. If a class becomes too powerful there needs to be a nerf or buff to keep people from just picking a class to cover their handicap or dropping them because they feel underpowered. Based on what im hearing clsses are receving structural changes, whatever that means. Most likley changes to our skill trees since we suppose to be getting respecs with the latest changes coming.

Im feeling burned out myself. I just hit Battlemaster rank in PvP. I thought it would be exiting but then I realized I have to grind even more. Between 1k wz/merc commendations and broken rng battlemaster cases im just getting tired of wz's. I still have yet to do operations and other HM flashpoints. Our server is too small and difficult to arrange raids. After hearing 1.2 is looking at an april rlease (probably end of april, thats 2 subs for me) I think im gonna cut my sub before the 20th or when I see the patch notes. If im not impressed. Im gone. I love the game but im just burnt out from doing pvp and I can't bring it to myself to grind other chracters. Running without sprint and my speeder is a big chore. I play other games too and I don't want to waste good time not playing them. Maybe if the game gets back on track i'll come back. I'll see ya guys later.