Banananor Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 No they got better over time where has it been said that the old jedi/sith were better then the newer?, ok...now wait a minute. If he is fighting Vader, then how would he be able to block/absorb force lighting and still not get cut down by Vader? How is this so hard to imagine? If someone has a high enough degree of force ability they can just paralyze whoever and however many people they want. And, as someone has already mentioned, Revan had (as of kotor 1 & 2) probably the second highest force "power level" ever in the entire expanded universe (luke being the first). Okay, so he focuses, paralyzes all three, mentally suppresses any powers they try to use, and disintigrates them with force lightning. In the magical world of magic, basically any bs can go, it just depends on what the writer wants. spoilers for kotor games, xanth, haruhi Revan was described as "the swirling eye of the force". He had plotonium to the max. Essentially being the chosen one of the universe, if you've ever read the crappy Xanth books he was Bink PLUS ridiculous powers, if you've ever seen Haruhi his power was a toned down version of the title character. Essentially, the universe would take care of him, and the magnitude of his power was so great anything he did, went, and anything that went wrong was just the world doing what's best for him. They couldn't go up in force power in the sequel because it was literally impossible- they could only go sideways or transcend it. Revan was the infinite source of the force and the Exile was the ultimate black hole/absorber of the force. It sounds like they've gradually played down these qualities, first in the novel and second in swtor. The bottom line is it's their story and they can mangle it any way they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merihim Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Revan's a better saber duelist than all of them and if you read the book you'd understand he would both absorb lightning with the force and with his lightsaber, he can even deflect it back with his saber. Again....the farther back in history you go...the "better" the force users were. To much fanboy...must resist..cannot...! Canon wise Darth Sidious would make Revan his toyboy. And deflecting lightning back is not a big deal. Even Mace Windu did that. Btw Sidious is also a great lightsaber duelist so was Dooku and Anakin/Vader, don't forget that. And you really think Revan wins vs Sidious Dooku and Vader, all at the same time!? Delusional fanboy, thats all. Sorry but i can't take you serious. Your name, and your delusional way of thinking = Fanboy and no use to discuss this actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KotorExile Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Revan didn't die in the fight at the end of Foundry, there was a cut scene at low health, and he disappeared on the group, as well as HK we was rebuilt and taken to a later instance, but in all honesty I would love a mission, where i can remake HK and have him kill off my annoying robot and have my ****** robot assassin again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugtor Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 i just wanted to add in that i concider it quite a bad move, to make a FP where your supposed to kill the stars of that era. would we be on to kill han solo and skywalker if this would be new republic era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonsis Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 It can be argued that the Warriors of old tended to tap into the gray areas and sometimes downright dark zones in terms of Light and Dark sides. Also, in terms of Saber combat, Revan would have an advantage, since lightsabers were fairly common compared to the ROS and post ANH era's. On the other hand, anyone in those era's who -did- use a lightsaber were always powerful and skilled. Makes for a rather small pool of challengers. Since we can't have them duke it out in a round-robin, we might have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightstrake Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 I still stand by my words, Arthas = Revan. I only thing I will regret with his defeat... is that he'll be a daily killable like Arthas became Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 No they got better over time where has it been said that the old jedi/sith were better then the newer?? Kreia said this in Kotor 2. Something along the lines of "If you could see the power of the ancient sith compared to the current sith, the modern sith would seem like children playing with toys." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZettaZonvolt Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 During the fight, Revan stops at 2% and then turns into a flash of light and disappears. I don't know about you guys, but that doesn't like something a dead man does. That sounds like something a guy who is getting an operation later is getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightstrake Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 During the fight, Revan stops at 2% and then turns into a flash of light and disappears. I don't know about you guys, but that doesn't like something a dead man does. That sounds like something a guy who is getting an operation later is getting. If you remember, Obi-Wan "disappeared" but we know he died. Revan is alive, we know it and will return like Arthas. I just hope he returns to his senses before we're forced to kill him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDTC Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 its fine. nobody ever dies in star wars. EVER. NOBODY. EVER. DIES. its the most obnoxious thing about star wars and it makes me want to yell curse words really loudly, but dont worry. nobody f'ing dies in star wars. theres no such thing as consequence in star wars. **** **** **** **** **** its so lame. we already know HK lives so he can do whatever the **** he did in SWG. and same with general grievous WHY DOESNT ANYONE DIE IN STAR WARS? the emperor is stupid 1000 years old or whatever. darth krayt is an idiot and so is his author because hes present for every single thing that ever happened in star wars. i need to lay down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anagnostis Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 HK-47 isn't dead, he was the final boss in an instance on Mustafar in Star Wars Galaxies, set 3500 years ish in the future.For HK to be repaired, only Revan knows how to do it, therefore, Revan lived after the Foundry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroky Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Can anybody tell me how is he even alive after 300 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightstrake Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Can anybody tell me how is he even alive after 300 years? He was kept alive by Sith Alchemy and was in stasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraidy Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Revan did not make KOTOR for me at all, in fact it's my complaint of KOTOR since I'm not a Revan fan at all(shocking I know) I prefer Exile alot more and I prefer my TOR characters even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunhavaname Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 5) Join the player(s) in a quest line/FP/Op and go out in a blaze of glory. Just sayin, you missed one. Becomes a Jedi Knight companion which would make every Revan fanboy reroll JK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunhavaname Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 its fine. nobody ever dies in star wars. EVER. NOBODY. EVER. DIES. its the most obnoxious thing about star wars and it makes me want to yell curse words really loudly, but dont worry. nobody f'ing dies in star wars. theres no such thing as consequence in star wars. **** **** **** **** **** its so lame. we already know HK lives so he can do whatever the **** he did in SWG. and same with general grievous WHY DOESNT ANYONE DIE IN STAR WARS? the emperor is stupid 1000 years old or whatever. darth krayt is an idiot and so is his author because hes present for every single thing that ever happened in star wars. i need to lay down Greedo died for not shooting first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfishback Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 During the fight, Revan stops at 2% and then turns into a flash of light and disappears. I don't know about you guys, but that doesn't like something a dead man does. That sounds like something a guy who is getting an operation later is getting. He explodes. I'm pretty sure he is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoDaresWins Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Jedi Knight spoilers: The Emperor's Voice dies in the same way as Revan: crackling purple lightning, a big flashy white explosion, and that dude is without a doubt 100% dead. Lets also not forget that Revan repeats Malak's final words "...as the -DARKNESS- takes me..." and Darth Chin ain't turned up since the Star Forge went ka-boom either. Edited January 29, 2012 by WhoDaresWins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggir Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't think this has been said but i apologize if it has: "Certain dark side users, upon being killed, would explode in a blast of blue energy. Emperor Palpatine exploded in this way in 4 ABY after being thrown down a reactor core shaft in the second Death Star by a redeemed Anakin Skywalker. In 9 ABY, Joruus C'baoth also exploded in a blast of blue energy after being stabbed by Mara Jade's lightsaber. Other Dark Jedi, such as Darth Nihilus and Jerec did not explode, but rather dissolved into dark side energy upon their death, leaving no remains of their bodies. It remains a mystery why these individuals died in this manner while other dark side users, such as Count Dooku, did not.[25][37][9][30][5]Mysteriously, when Shaak Ti was struck down by Galen Marek and thrown into the mouth of a giant sarlacc, she died in a way similar to the explosions mentioned above, but was in no way a dark side user. The reason her death occurred in the manner it did has yet to be clarified. It may be that this occurs when a more powerful force-user is killed and thus force "side" affiliation may be irrelevant.[38]" - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force The way Revan Dies is very much in line with the way a powerful user of the force esp someone powerful in the dark side in the extended universe... Revan is dead guys sorry... if they bring him back i will be dissapoint... Unless of course he could come back as a ghost which is in line with the lore... but it saddens me so many people want this game to go the route of WoW where they re use the same boss over and over screaming IT WAS MEEEEERLY A SET BACK! SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS!!!Malgus Fixes HK-47 and you have to fight him again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VexedForest Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'm actually feeling like Revan is being kinda overused. I know it wasn't bioware but Kotor2 made Revan sound godlike in a bad way. I hope Bioware can just let him rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breasy Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 ( apologizing in advanced terrible speller ) If Revan really did die like this thats just a dissapointment it would of bin cool if they had him fight along side you in future raids or dungeons like they did in wow with thrall and friends w/e. i mean the book was a bit pathetic i think the exile should of died at the least in a fair fight . Revan is my absolute favorite charicter out of everything ive ever played so on so fourth if the foundry was truly his end well that breaks my heart i mean yea it might be time for him to take a bow and another hero to step in but at least kill him off epically or make him a part of a class story line more then a mention here and there his story was mostly the reason i even picked this game up just because it always left people wandering and wanting more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviss Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Revan is not dead, actually Drew Karphysyn confirmed that they changed the Foundry's ending in order to be able to add him later on in the game if they ever wanted to. You can find Drew's full response in the following topic on the 3rd page: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=73491 Edited February 2, 2012 by Deviss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxetius Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Revan was never a demigod until KOTOR2 painted him as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevMg Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Revan was never a demigod until KOTOR2 painted him as such. Rather, Revan was never a demigod until some ppl who misunderstood KotOR 2 painted him as one. Then came Drew with Bane and made it all even worse, and followed with Revan novel that was overkill. It would be for the best if they had let him truly die rather than suffer in hands of writers that don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loganthm Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 What they should do: make revan go into hiding obi wan/yoda style and eventually you go and seek him out to try and get him to come to help the empire/republic and share his power with you or whatever. so like any old master the only way he will share his secrets with you is if you defeat him first, not kill of course but just defeat. this way he can continue to pop up as a background character for important events but you never actually kill him with some cheesy death scene ala arthas in icecrown. what they probably will do: make you kill him ala some cheesy arthas death scene. i have a feeling hell come back with some super foundry army and try to take over the galaxy and the sith and jedi will have to work together to defeat him or some nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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