Hidalgo Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 don't see a point of a dungeon finder, takes not even 10 minutes to get a group together to run heroics and flashpoints. maybe you should join a guild and be sociable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooper Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 i think that damning a LFG tool is backwards thinking. Its a tool that will make the game better and more accessible to the public at large. There is nothing wrong with the LFG tool in WOW, if you have a problem with some d bag you can put them on ignore and the tool will keep you from being grouped with them. Besides, just because a guy is on your server is not going to change the way he acts in a FP. And yes it NEEDS to be cross server. I dont understand how people make the case for a pvp tool that is cross server and not have the same issues as a dungeons tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungan Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) don't see a point of a dungeon finder, takes not even 10 minutes to get a group together to run heroics and flashpoints. maybe you should join a guild and be sociable. Maybe you should reroll Republic on a low pop server? I don't expect my higher level guildmates to be at my beck and call for every heroic they've already done, and I wouldn't want them to be anyways because I don't like being run through content by someone higher level. Edited January 7, 2012 by Gungan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichLather Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 don't see a point of a dungeon finder, takes not even 10 minutes to get a group together to run heroics and flashpoints. maybe you should join a guild and be sociable. it doesnt matter if you see a point, other paying customers do. If you dont want to use the system then dont use it, but paying customers do want one. Why even comment if you have nothing meaningful or intelligent to say or add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barracudastr Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 don't see a point of a dungeon finder, takes not even 10 minutes to get a group together to run heroics and flashpoints. maybe you should join a guild and be sociable. Then I guess having it wont affect you so why do you care. You have friends and a guild you dont need it so dont damn it for those cant get groups in 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlaxitov Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 He mentioned that he is in high 20s or low-mid 30s in 19 days. That's not groundbreaking really. Many people are pushing 30-40s now and of course we have players at 50. If anything, it shows how the difficulty of finding pug groups is not confined to any level brackets. It's great if you have group of RL or in game friends that you play with all the time but many people don't have that. Many people want to get in, pug a couple instances, and get out. Not that I agree with this play style but why would I deny someone what they should do with their $15 a month. But clearly people who wants to complete FP as efficient as possible so they can do something else in game or in real life is impatient... according to you. Bads will often say something like "I pay 15 dollars a month so I'll play however I like." I've waited longer than I'd like to get 2 instances done so far. Again, I'm not complaining because its par for the course in a less than month old mmo for crying out loud. Yeah, according to me most of those people who want to "complete a FP as effeciently as possible" aka get it over with, are impatient and usually not very fun to play with. Just imagine auto group LFG and theres always a mix of those who want to spacebar through the dialog and those who don't. Yeah that would be loads of fun, worth NOT waiting for. Just imagine a mix of people who want to do LS or DS in each group thrown together with a click of a button. People on the server I play are already forming guilds for the LS/DS purpose alone. I would ask anyone to think through what theyre asking for when asking for auto group LFG, but that of course takes up their valuable time doesen't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exzear Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 i would like a dungeon finder to now.. since all dungeons are on the main ship/ships and at first i thought the dungeons would be on different planets and thats why i was against it at first since it would make people just sit in the capital city/ship all day but now all dungeons are already there so i agree that i would be good with a dungeon finder.. but i would love if it was just for the people on the server so no cross server... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swirly Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 You don't think it's fair. I think it is. MMO communities were good when you were forced to do this. MMO communities today are hives of scum of villainy BECAUSE of stuff like LFD tools. I could care less about your enjoyment, I want a good community. If people can't socialize, they have no business playing an MMO. This genre was superior when it was a niche genre BECAUSE it only attracted social players. Now we get everything from console kids to people without the simple skills to spell properly. We gained better graphics and bigger production values, but we lost the heart of the MMO genre. You're wasting your time. Half the people we play with were probably wearing diapers during the best MMO years. I am glad I got to at least experience 2003-2006ish before MMOs started turning into pure crap that they are today. People say LFG finders etc don't harm a game well it's funny I didn't see people wanting them years ago and the communities in games didn't all stink to high heaven like they do now. I feel like MMOs are the RPGers CoD. Quick, rude, selfish , in and out players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlaxitov Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 You're wasting your time. Half the people we play with were probably wearing diapers during the best MMO years. I am glad I got to at least experience 2003-2006ish before MMOs started turning into pure crap that they are today. People say LFG finders etc don't harm a game well it's funny I didn't see people wanting them years ago and the communities in games didn't all stink to high heaven like they do now. I feel like MMOs are the RPGers CoD. Quick, rude, selfish , in and out players. +1 Couldn't have put it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidalgo Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Then I guess having it wont affect you so why do you care. You have friends and a guild you dont need it so dont damn it for those cant get groups in 10 minutes. if we had a X-Server Dungeon finder, there would be no point to guilds, or comunity, log in, fail at doing a heroic cause you got matched with a bunch of morons, log off. good damn game. if we had a in server dungeon finder, that would be fine, i have no quarrel, familiar faces, you get to have fun and get to know people because you'll be running into them a lot. if you are having that much trouble to find a group for a silly instance, than maybe you should, um i don't know, move to a more populated server, write a nasty letter to bioware saying the server populations are too low to support gameplay on my server, time to start server mergers. hot damn, i played on galaxies in a server with < 600 people, unguilded, no dungeon finder, never once had a problem getting a group together for a heroic. don't know whats wrong with all of these whiners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khoranth Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 First off, awesome post illutionz! I'm tired of people trying to say "LFG tool destroys community!" when it's entirely anecdotal. Hey look a WoW player did a community inspired event a few months ago that captured the attention of her realm and WoW's biggest blog site: http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/12/08/the-broken-doll-roleplaying-storyline-chills-hundreds-on-moon-gu/ Hey here's more community stuff: http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/09/22/15-minutes-of-fame-care-packages-spur-renaissance-of-community/ Of course this is anecdotal as well but as you can see it's up to each individual player to contribute to feelings of "community". The LFD just offers a nice convenience for people who want to experience the content. Obviously community and LFD can both co-exist. WOW's LFD system sucked, because of heavy handed vote kick restrictions, that empowered jerks, leechers afkers ninja looters and greifers. I'd prefer server only if they ever implement any type of LFG tool. with restrictions keeping people on ignore out of your groups. And if you act like a jerk and make alot of ignore lists, you will never get in groups regardless. This will help keep the community intact, and keep jerks, leechers afkers ninja looters and greifers in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barracudastr Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 if we had a X-Server Dungeon finder, there would be no point to guilds, or comunity, log in, fail at doing a heroic cause you got matched with a bunch of morons, log off. good damn game. if we had a in server dungeon finder, that would be fine, i have no quarrel, familiar faces, you get to have fun and get to know people because you'll be running into them a lot. if you are having that much trouble to find a group for a silly instance, than maybe you should, um i don't know, move to a more populated server, write a nasty letter to bioware saying the server populations are too low to support gameplay on my server, time to start server mergers. hot damn, i played on galaxies in a server with < 600 people, unguilded, no dungeon finder, never once had a problem getting a group together for a heroic. don't know whats wrong with all of these whiners. Oh look another person that thinks when someone says LFG it must mean x server. No one wants cross server the majority want a same server tool just to put groups together faster and easier. I didn't read past your first sentence either since your entire opinion is based off of x server and wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidalgo Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Oh look another person that thinks when someone says LFG it must mean x server. No one wants cross server the majority want a same server tool just to put groups together faster and easier. I didn't read past your first sentence either since your entire opinion is based off of x server and wow. well if you would have read past that first sentence, you wouldn't be sounding like such a **** right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khoranth Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Oh look another person that thinks when someone says LFG it must mean x server. No one wants cross server the majority want a same server tool just to put groups together faster and easier. I didn't read past your first sentence either since your entire opinion is based off of x server and wow. Even if it is server only, it still needs to respect my ignore list and keep them from landing in my groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McVade Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 As a Jedi Sentinel, only way I'm getting into a Flashpoint is if I form the group myself. I just don't have the initiative, so I haven't done a single flashpoint. In that respect, a dungeon finder would work very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barracudastr Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Even if it is server only, it still needs to respect my ignore list and keep them from landing in my groups. Ya defiantly if I get a bad apple in a group and put him on ignore I dont want to see him in another group of mine again. And its a very good way to ensure people behave so to speak. If its same server and enough put you on ignore from just being a jerk in LFG your not gonna get any ques going anytime soon. But of course the anti LFG'ers wont see this logic and will come up with oh your just lazy which isn't really a reason just their ego and what they think a mmo should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruticuss Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 In a youtube video, BIO did say they will keep it in mind and examine the need for one after launch, I can dig it up if need be. Hopefully, they are now aware the enough folks want it, those that don't, well just don't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barracudastr Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) So how bout people like myself that spend over an hour trying to form a group as a healer or tank and cant get a group? How bout those people that only have 40 people in fleet during their prime time? How bout people that actually have issues in the game that have nothing to do with them but the game itself? So ignorant and arrogant. Hope your not like that int he real world. Edited January 7, 2012 by Noviru editing out removed content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlaxitov Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Oh look another person that thinks when someone says LFG it must mean x server. Name two even semi successful mmos that added an auto group LFG and didn't eventually take it cross server. Put up or ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Januaria Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Seems like a no-brainer. Shouting through the channels wastes time and fills the chat box with distracting chatter. Is this option really that difficult to implement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabster Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Destruction of community is not fun You have to have a community in the first place - before you can destroy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlaxitov Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Someone please tell me two semi successful MMOs who added auto group LFG that didn't take it cross server. Edited January 7, 2012 by Vlaxitov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlaxitov Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 You have to have a community in the first place - before you can destroy it. Because a community magically appears in the first month of a MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruticuss Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Someone please tell me two semi successful MMOs who added auto group LFG that didn't take it cross server. You mean successful MMOs are doing this ... hmmm, successful, sounds like a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidalgo Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 So how bout people like myself that spend over an hour trying to form a group as a healer or tank and cant get a group? How bout those people that only have 40 people in fleet during their prime time? How bout people that actually have issues in the game that have nothing to do with them but the game itself? So ignorant and arrogant. Hope your not like that int he real world. sounds like it's time to merge your server with another, if things are that bad. that's why you should always play on the most populated servers, theres a population. POT5 is usually heavy and theres only like 90-130 people in fleet around 7pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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