KorThariDroth Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Recently I've been hearing lots of theories about Darth Jadus returning, however I haven't completed the imperial agent story so I would like to know what happen'd to him. I'm not sure if I'm right but I think there might be multiple endings. Besides that and the fact he can teleport and is on the dark council as head of intelligence I know nothing about Jadus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 What happens to Jadus depends on what you choose at the end of Chapter 1 of the Agent story (just after Alderaan). The ending of the overall story (between Corellia and Ilum) doesn't matter for this purpose. I'm not going to say any more **in detail** because it would be a major spoiler for the story, but what's sure is that there is no further interaction with Darth Jadus after that point in the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldVengeance Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 He does have several possible endings, depending on the Agent's choices at the end of Chapter 1. Spoiler 1 - He can be in exile, if the Agent stops the Eradicators or talks him down. 2 - He can be imprisoned by the Dark Council, if the Agent lets the Eradicators fire in order to trap him. His fate here is the most unknown. He says he will either be killed or imprisoned. 3 - If the Agent joins him and lets the Eradicators fire to destroy his rivals, then he rejoins the Dark Council as the defacto leader, but eventually goes into hiding. He is distracted by some unknown threat (possibly he foresaw the threat of Valkorion and the Eternal Empire?), and allows the dismantling of his power base in order to give his enemies a false sense of security. All the possible fates are ambiguous enough that they could bring him back whenever they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 hours ago, OldVengeance said: that they could bring him back whenever they wanted. Which I sincerely hope means "never". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldVengeance Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 I'd be pretty hyped for a Darth Jadus return. The extra scenes we get if we side with him hint at some potentially interesting things he might have been getting up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayddow Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 He does sort of "appear" in KOTFE: in which we see a vision of him if you play as an agent. However, because it is Valkorian controlling the vision, who knows if it is real or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanrogers Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 9:04 PM, SteveTheCynic said: Which I sincerely hope means "never". really wish malgus stayed dead after false empereor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoyElSenado Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 11:58 AM, SteveTheCynic said: but what's sure is that there is no further interaction with Darth Jadus after that point in the story. This is not accurate… You interact with Jadus several more times if you choose to support him as hand of jadus. The last time you talk to him is around the end of chapter 2 after completing Hoth. the main answer to the OP though is that regardless of any choice you make in the agent story, he doesn’t die. And way later on in the game, he’s mentioned as a potential suspect for certain events, implying that he’s still around somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayddow Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Lana mentions him, and as she is head of Sith Intelligence for a time, she would be in a position to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 19 hours ago, Shayddow said: Lana mentions him, and as she is head of Sith Intelligence for a time, she would be in a position to know. True, although it might be a throwaway reference equivalent to "the Great Bogeyman". And at the time that she mentions him, she hasn't been involved in Sith Intelligence as such for six or seven years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbomagnus Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Jadus' whereabouts are unknown, with no proof of life or death. The only thing we can be near-certain of is that he approved (or at least didn't prevent) the disbandment of Imperial Intelligence (The Hand of Jadus can demand of Razer to know if Jadus knew what was happening and Razer informs them that ALL of the Dark Council had agreed), and wasn't mentioned when Darth Marr formed Sith Intelligence as having any involvement, then Darth/Empress Acina is specifically stated as being the only member of the 'old' Dark Council to have survive the Eternal Empire invasion, so it can at the least be considered that, whether he's alive or dead, Darth Jadus is no longer (as of SoR and the Knights duology) a member of the Dark Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayddow Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Acina though wasn't the only one to survive the Eternal Empire invasion. A specific council member shows up on Nathema, but he doesn't survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 3:30 AM, turbomagnus said: then Darth/Empress Acina is specifically stated as being the only member of the 'old' Dark Council to have survive the Eternal Empire invasion Except that as far as I remember, Darth Vowrawn was also a member of the "old" council (this may be the result of my memory acting up again), and he, too, survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbomagnus Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, SteveTheCynic said: Except that as far as I remember, Darth Vowrawn was also a member of the "old" council (this may be the result of my memory acting up again), and he, too, survived. Yeah, I looked into it further and Vowrawn's status is... spotty. He's a member of the Dark Council during the Origin Stories, and he's shown kneeling before Arcann when the Eternal Empire Conquest happens, but when The Outlander is defrosted, Lana specifically states that Acina is the only survivor of the old Council, implying Vowrawn's death... then he shows up alive again later on. Which means either someone made a slip-up with Lana's dialogue or Vowrawn may have faked his death for a time for some reason, depending on which someone thinks is a better answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, turbomagnus said: Lana specifically states that Acina is the only survivor of the old Council, implying Vowrawn's death Didn't she say that all the other members were "dead or disappeared" or something like that? If that's what she said, then it implies his death or disappearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbomagnus Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 8 hours ago, SteveTheCynic said: Didn't she say that all the other members were "dead or disappeared" or something like that? If that's what she said, then it implies his death or disappearance. Perhaps, though that could also refer to Jadus, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 5:36 AM, turbomagnus said: Perhaps, though that could also refer to Jadus, It could, except that he wasn't on the Dark Council any more by that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocacolemacgrath Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 On 10/7/2023 at 7:08 AM, jordanrogers said: really wish malgus stayed dead after false empereor Personally i think Jadus coming back makes much more sense than bringing back Malgus, there's much more story opportunities with Jadus and he was a loose end, but i guess Malgus is more marketable and has more of a connection with all the other classes that aren't agents, and maybe the reason they never actually brought him back was that they feared comitting to a single story path for him (as he would have to have a set fate back in chapter one if he was faced by the other classes, which could be awkward). Still, i think the story potential and freshness of him becoming the new main bad guy outweighs the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceDefender Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I really hope Jadus will come back ot story soon. If not proper return in LotS then at least a hint/tease in that expansion and in next (8.0)he would actually return. Malgus is cool, but for now the only thing he do is sitting in the chair lol. Awesome villain. Heta is a joke not a villain. Jadus was cool and BW/BS just needs to properly use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 8 hours ago, LanceDefender said: I really hope Jadus will come back ot story soon So long as "soon" is a synonym for "never", I support your thesis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceDefender Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Then definitely you don't know what "soon" means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, LanceDefender said: Then definitely you don't know what "soon" means. I'm well aware of what "soon" means, thank you. The point was that I'd be happy for DJ to remain forever absent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenaSalton Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I mean, if Jadus made a return so my agent could finally kill him, I wouldn't complain. But unless I get to kill him, I don't want him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceDefender Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 And I want DJ to return. And so we have deadlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recalcitrantIre Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 9:32 AM, SteveTheCynic said: Didn't she say that all the other members were "dead or disappeared" or something like that? If that's what she said, then it implies his death or disappearance. just a reminder that Vowrawn skips town into the Rishi Maze after he gives the Wrath the means to unveil the Opticron droids on Rishi, him doing a similar disappearing act during the Zakuul Troubles doesn't seem remotely out of character plus, Ravage and Mortis' confirmed survivals albeit only to die to the Order of Zildrog's machinations on Nathema really doesn't surprise me that Lana might have ended up with spotty, incomplete or perhaps outright incorrect information when her primary focus was busting the PC out of Arcann's carbonite prison, as it stands the only Dark Council member to die during that 5 year period is Marr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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