RevBurt Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 If I played 32bit and 64bit side by side, what changes will I notice, if any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceryxp Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 We can not say specifically how it will affect the game once it comes to live, only relay our experiences when it was on the PTS. For myself, I saw a graphics improvement and was able to up my settings from high to very high. But, the tree rendering engine was still being upgraded so on the PTS trees were not rendering. That could have been why I saw a performance increase, or it could translate to better performance on live. It is hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psikofunkster Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 It has been told it will allow developers create bigger planets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavantDreadtech Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) Not sure, unless you tried it on the test server I don't know if anyone can answer that for you personally. I also think at this point until it go's live, think different players will have different experiences with it. For me, not even sure my PC will play it at all. Guess I will find out myself when it go's live. If I cannot play, then guess my time with this game is over. If it does, hopefully without any issues. However not really expecting that outcome. Anyway best of luck, hope you don't have any problems yourself with it. If it does not improve the game for you, lets hope it does not make it worse. Edited March 27, 2023 by SavantDreadtech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin_chi_lao Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 10 hours ago, psikofunkster said: It has been told it will allow developers create bigger planets. If that's the case then they should consider expanding existing planets as well, maybe a krayt dragon cave on tatooine🤫 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardrossan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 22 hours ago, RevBurt said: If I played 32bit and 64bit side by side, what changes will I notice, if any? You might see a blank server list, and be completely unable to login, apparently. https://forums.swtor.com/topic/927375-64-bit-on-pts-updates-721-known-issues-thread/?do=findComment&comment=9743151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazonfreak Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 If you have a modern PC, you will experience a better overall performance especially in heavily crowded areas and in environments with increased graphical effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amodin Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 hours ago, SavantDreadtech said: Not sure, unless you tried it on the test server I don't know if anyone can answer that for you personally. I also think at this point until it go's live, think different players will have different experiences with it. For me, not even sure my PC will play it at all. Guess I will find out myself when it go's live. If I cannot play, then guess my time with this game is over. If it does, hopefully without any issues. However not really expecting that outcome. Anyway best of luck, hope you don't have any problems yourself with it. If it does not improve the game for you, lets hope it does not make it worse. Why would your system NOT run it? I mean, if you are still on a 32-bit OS with no 64-bit hardware, then sure. And, frankly, you deserve to not run it. 64-bit has been a thing for YEARS, like a lot of years (20 years for consumers, even longer for enterprise architecture). If it's not running because of some issue with your 64-bit system, that can be fixed by your troubleshooting and could be something as simple as a driver issue. This is some pre-meditation fear-factor thing you have going on here. Did you try it on PTS? What was happening with your client when you ran it on 64-bit? What was your failure error? Lots of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleEwina Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 From what I saw on PTS, better performance, less lag in crowded area (haven't been able to convince people to go after the Nightmare Pilgrim on PTS to see how it compare but the rest was less laggy), better graphism. On what we do not see but feel, BW should have an easier time producing content (any type of content) as they won't be limited in their possibilities the way they currently are, that should also allows them to create zones with more content (quests, npc, etc), they will have access to new tools that was limited to 64bits, etc. So directly you should not see a lot of things but in the background it's like they exchange their motor from a 1769 Cugnot Steamer to a brand new sport one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamaht Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Will it increase responsiveness? As in having abilities fire smoothly the moment the button is pressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Diamaht said: Will it increase responsiveness? As in having abilities fire smoothly the moment the button is pressed? In the very short term, probably not, especially if you are far (in Internet ping time terms) from the server, where there will be at least the delay for the message to get to the server and back. (For me, that's mid-20s of milliseconds, but for someone in Australia, it's north of 200, which is visible.) In the longer term, the extra memory available may allow them to do do things they don't currently have the memory available to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneYenShort Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 10:59 AM, RevBurt said: If I played 32bit and 64bit side by side, what changes will I notice, if any? You will notice that you'll have a lot more free time as you get to download the entire freaking thing again. 35 GB. Beyond that, it all depends on IF they did any recoding with going to 64 bit. If they didn't, then you really won't notice anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameYOL Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, SteveTheCynic said: In the very short term, probably not, especially if you are far (in Internet ping time terms) from the server, where there will be at least the delay for the message to get to the server and back. (For me, that's mid-20s of milliseconds, but for someone in Australia, it's north of 200, which is visible.) In the longer term, the extra memory available may allow them to do do things they don't currently have the memory available to do. Australia also plays with 200 MS? Wasn't it higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin_chi_lao Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, OneYenShort said: You will notice that you'll have a lot more free time as you get to download the entire freaking thing again. 35 GB. 13 minutes to download and install on this 10 year old pc but the servers are still offline so maybe by tonight. I'd say a few hours from now worth of free time 🙌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikePrice Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 64-bit will give the client access to much, much more memory. That means more can be done without needing to load anything (or even worse swap things). I don't think there will be a lot of change in this first iteration. But, if they follow through, they will be able to have more people in places, higher resolution textures, bigger areas, more things on screen, faster loading times, less pop-in, limits on things like credits and bank size should be more easily raiseable, the list goes on and on. 11 hours ago, Diamaht said: Will it increase responsiveness? As in having abilities fire smoothly the moment the button is pressed? Probably not. That's more of a latency, client prediction issue. Edited March 28, 2023 by StrikePrice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amodin Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 This isn't something you will really see in the short term, except for *some* performance improvement, but the magic is what they could do with the game overall, and expandability with 64-bit. We're talking updated DX, DLSS, all kinds of new things they couldn't do before. If they plan to keep this game out of maintenance mode (and taking on a huge task like this is a good indicator of that) then we could potentially see a lot of content coming our way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyandrew Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 for the test server,,I had it for a while,,and earlier today after the download was finished I was curious to see if it was up,,then It began to redownload the entire 38gig PTS,,this is after I downloaded this mornings 35gig patch,,I cancled it and went to see in my folders and my original PTS is still there,,was this is a bug? I only ben on the PTS 1 time so I can`t tell or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ashton- Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 stupid question, but will the 64 bit client be auto applied? or do i need to change it to access the 64 bit client somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneYenShort Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, ronin_chi_lao said: 13 minutes to download and install on this 10 year old pc but the servers are still offline so maybe by tonight. I'd say a few hours from now worth of free time 🙌 Must be nice. I think it will take 8 hours for me. And then another 8 for the wife unless I bother to figure out how their file system works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleEwina Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I think it will be auto applied, we haven't heard anything against this idea and anyway the game need to be on 64bit to be able to do more than just survive, and even hopefully thrive, allowing players not to move to 64bit would be going directly against their bext interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikePrice Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, -Ashton- said: stupid question, but will the 64 bit client be auto applied? or do i need to change it to access the 64 bit client somewhere? Nothing you need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 7 hours ago, FlameYOL said: Australia also plays with 200 MS? Wasn't it higher? "north of 200" means "more than 200" everywhere I've heard the idiom. So yes, it was higher, and it probably still is. @TrixxieTriss what's your current ping to SWTOR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLeahC Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Apparently the only difference right now is lots more lag. Fleet general chat was just people complaining about lag especially in any group content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amodin Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, PLeahC said: Apparently the only difference right now is lots more lag. Fleet general chat was just people complaining about lag especially in any group content. Wasn't the plan to also move servers to a different data center? If that happened, I could see this being possibly part of the issue, along with servers normalizing after a huge patch like this. I didn't experience any lag at all, except fleet chat actually stopped for several minutes, then picked back up a couple of times. No group content though, but I know people were wanting to run some Ops to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWho Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I'd expect lag to be up and down a bit over the next couple of days. The download was 35 GB and that's a lot of data transfer to accommodate over limited bandwidth legs. I'm up a little on lag as well but I'm chalking that up to internet traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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