Jarbarian Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) Do the developers not care that their own servers are unstable that causes player disconnects (not my network, I know when my network goes down, I get alerts. Plus I work from home, I'd lose my work connection too!). So why am I getting a 15 min ban from PVP when YOUR server DC's me? "Your connection to the server has been lost. If this problem persist, please visit http://www.swtor.com/support to contact our Customer Service Team". IOW, "We'll not do anything about our servers disconnecting you during PVP matches". PS: That's not even the right link to support anymore. Edited July 28, 2020 by Jarbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 just play a different toon man. EZ fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bob- Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) Do the developers not care that their own servers are unstable that causes player disconnects (not my network, I know when my network goes down, I get alerts. Plus I work from home, I'd lose my work connection too!). So why am I getting a 15 min ban from PVP when YOUR server DC's me? "Your connection to the server has been lost. If this problem persist, please visit http://www.swtor.com/support to contact our Customer Service Team". IOW, "We'll not do anything about our servers disconnecting you during PVP matches". PS: That's not even the right link to support anymore. It's not about your network or their servers but more about the path in between the 2, there are lots of fiber lines and switches and configurations and 1 little problem with any of those can cause a disconnect on your end. Do a pathping to the servers IP and it will show you the hops along the path and the packet loss. Significant packet loss is a problem. There are other threads in the forums that can go more in depth on troubleshooting issues like this. I'm not saying there are not issues with their servers, they do have their issues but intermittent signal loss can usually be attributed to the path. Edited July 28, 2020 by -Bob- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMhyst Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Do the developers not care that their own servers are unstable that causes player disconnects (not my network, I know when my network goes down, I get alerts. Plus I work from home, I'd lose my work connection too!). So why am I getting a 15 min ban from PVP when YOUR server DC's me? "Your connection to the server has been lost. If this problem persist, please visit http://www.swtor.com/support to contact our Customer Service Team". IOW, "We'll not do anything about our servers disconnecting you during PVP matches". PS: That's not even the right link to support anymore. get a mate to queue you up and you will get a pvp invite and get around the 15min penality... they can't ban you for teaming up i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) Hey folks, What we were experiencing is a DDOS attack against our NA datacenter, which impacted the Satele Shan and Star Forge servers. The situation has mostly recovered and we are continuing to monitor. Thank you for your patience. -eric Musco reports they are under a DDoS attack. That is why some people are being DC’d. But I agree with the OP, if you want to have a deserter timer, the system should be able to recognise the difference between DCing or leaving. It’s not the players fault. World of Warcraft can tell if you DC or leave. That should be a requirement or remove the deserter timer. Edited July 29, 2020 by TrixxieTriss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullbash Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 What a joke this whole thing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAnnmarie Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 What a joke this whole thing is. If it is a joke, I don't think we've seen the punch line yet, hold on to your hats :D:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bob- Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Musco reports they are under a DDoS attack. That is why some people are being DC’d. But I agree with the OP, if you want to have a deserter timer, the system should be able to recognise the difference between DCing or leaving. It’s not the players fault. World of Warcraft can tell if you DC or leave. That should be a requirement or remove the deserter timer. I'll go out on a limb and say it's China, they've been wanting lightsaber tech for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDeathII Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Go do a flashpoint while you are time out. Its not the end of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Musco reports they are under a DDoS attack. That is why some people are being DC’d. But I agree with the OP, if you want to have a deserter timer, the system should be able to recognise the difference between DCing or leaving. It’s not the players fault. World of Warcraft can tell if you DC or leave. That should be a requirement or remove the deserter timer. Truly a miserable piece of sith who does DDOS attacks. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Go do a flashpoint while you are time out. Its not the end of the world What for? Flashpoints are extremely uneventful, most PvPers I know never bother. Once you've done any of them once its no longer worth doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) I'll go out on a limb and say it's China, they've been wanting lightsaber tech for years! They probably sore about not getting the red crystal schematics Edited July 29, 2020 by TrixxieTriss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbarian Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 It's not about your network or their servers but more about the path in between the 2, there are lots of fiber lines and switches and configurations and 1 little problem with any of those can cause a disconnect on your end. Do a pathping to the servers IP and it will show you the hops along the path and the packet loss. Significant packet loss is a problem. There are other threads in the forums that can go more in depth on troubleshooting issues like this. I'm not saying there are not issues with their servers, they do have their issues but intermittent signal loss can usually be attributed to the path. I'm in IT, I thought that was well. However in several games yesterday we were getting major lag, like 20+ seconds of it. Any longer and we all would have been disconnected. It's not the network in this case, their game is busted. Recall they just applied a patch. End result though, players in BGs should not be punished for things 100% out of their control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbarian Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 What for? Flashpoints are extremely uneventful, most PvPers I know never bother. Once you've done any of them once its no longer worth doing Especially for me, where I don't do any PVE at all unless it's "mandatory". I spend 100% of my time in battlegrounds/starfighter games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbarian Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 Musco reports they are under a DDoS attack. That is why some people are being DC’d. But I agree with the OP, if you want to have a deserter timer, the system should be able to recognise the difference between DCing or leaving. It’s not the players fault. World of Warcraft can tell if you DC or leave. That should be a requirement or remove the deserter timer. Apparently they have learned nothing from WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sappharan Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I'm in IT, I thought that was well. However in several games yesterday we were getting major lag, like 20+ seconds of it. Any longer and we all would have been disconnected. It's not the network in this case, their game is busted. Recall they just applied a patch. End result though, players in BGs should not be punished for things 100% out of their control. For that alone I think the deserter debuff should be rescinded. Fortunately, I don't usually have connection problems, but I would be incensed if I were punished for something out of my control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbarian Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 For that alone I think the deserter debuff should be rescinded. Fortunately, I don't usually have connection problems, but I would be incensed if I were punished for something out of my control. Yeah that was my issue yesterday. If it's true it was a DDOS attack, then maybe they do need to reconsider the deserter buff OR use WOW's system to tell if you quit or were DC'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merovejec Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Yeah happens to me to, I get dced from server, lose elo from ongoing ranked match and get 15 min penalty. Oh well, what can I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn-XGundam Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Yeah happens to me to, I get dced from server, lose elo from ongoing ranked match and get 15 min penalty. Oh well, what can I do? you shouldn't be punished for their garbage design decision 15min penalty is stupid as hell, i'll only accept it under one condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbarian Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 you shouldn't be punished for their garbage design decision 15min penalty is stupid as hell, i'll only accept it under one condition Question is, what are they going to do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Question is, what are they going to do about it? Nothing if they follow the usual Bioware pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbarian Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 Nothing if they follow the usual Bioware pattern I expected as much. Also PVP is unplayable right now. Tanks/Healers (nothing else) is dominating PVP. All other classes are trashed/trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CretinUseelad Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 We only ended up with degenerate moba leaver punishment because of the endless loudmouth solo regs playing knuckleheads whining endlessly over the past several years and what has that left us with? Unavoidable HB,VS and Quesh and these same loudmouths will STILL happily take the 15 minute lockout if the RNG god dares stuff them into an unranked arena and tries force them to actually PVP for a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CretinUseelad Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I expected as much. Also PVP is unplayable right now. Tanks/Healers (nothing else) is dominating PVP. All other classes are trashed/trash. By this statement alone you prove you sure don't know a single thing about what you are talking about. I remember seeing a post before....someone said most of you constant posters aren't playing with a full deck of Pazaak and he was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZUHFB Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 We only ended up with degenerate moba leaver punishment because of the endless loudmouth solo regs playing knuckleheads whining endlessly over the past several years and what has that left us with? Unavoidable HB,VS and Quesh and these same loudmouths will STILL happily take the 15 minute lockout if the RNG god dares stuff them into an unranked arena and tries force them to actually PVP for a few minutes. That's not exactly how solo ranked, or ranked in general works but sure. Leaving ANY PvP match should have a drawback for yourself, the reason why it was a problem in solo ranked is that you drag other people down too, which is obviously untrue for normals since you lost nothing if you lose because of a leaver, the one having the punishment is the guy that left, not the ones who got screwed because he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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