lokimogor Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 So WildStar officially announced its impending closure today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I hate to see any MMOs close...they aren't being replaced with new ones...but Wildstar was dumb to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiesu Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 already a thread about it in off-topic area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 So WildStar officially announced its impending closure today I guess even in game tokens for game time wont save a game these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodrac Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 It's my fault. I never tried it. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblood Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 It's my fault. I never tried it. Sorry about that. I think I'm more at fault. I openly mocked that game. I feel so ashamed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceMasterSoul Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) I think I'm more at fault. I openly mocked that game. I feel so ashamed now. I'm probably the most at fault. I don't even care enough to know what it is. Edited October 9, 2018 by AceMasterSoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JpDelano Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 what is wildstar, and why is it more important than how we treat each other what bothers me is I got this grudxge, and a problem I want to reach out to so many of you, and I feel like I cant because you don't love GOd it matters to me because maybe im wrong it bothers me, that so many of do you do not and to take it a step further, your backed by the internet ……….. when was it ever wrong for a man to say his peace it bothers me, that its not stealin a damn post, from someone, its how we treat each other and yall are like, next...… I get it, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblood Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I'm probably the most at fault. I don't even care enough to know what it is. lol Ok, you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarova Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 So WildStar officially announced its impending closure today I got my official "Wildstar Closure Announcement" email on 1st October. It was a really lovely email thanking all it's players/customers for their support over the last few years. Their message felt sincere and I really hope the Wildstar team are able to bring us a new idea using what they learnt from the experience. I never thought it was meant to be any MMO killer though It was too niche in how it looked & how the game played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I got my official "Wildstar Closure Announcement" email on 1st October. It was a really lovely email thanking all it's players/customers for their support over the last few years. Their message felt sincere and I really hope the Wildstar team are able to bring us a new idea using what they learnt from the experience. I never thought it was meant to be any MMO killer though It was too niche in how it looked & how the game played. Their target was old school MMO hardcore players with making entering end game difficult by having doing things similar to how WoW was with their keys to get into raids and it had large 40 man raids etc....It was just too hardcore for the current MMO environment. That was their target, it failed....obviously and somewhat sadly, and then after that it was just too late to change it. Shame really. It was a pretty fun game and the pvp was a lot of fun....albeit really unbalanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khevar Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Their target was old school MMO hardcore players with making entering end game difficult by having doing things similar to how WoW was with their keys to get into raids and it had large 40 man raids etc....It was just too hardcore for the current MMO environment. That was their target, it failed....obviously and somewhat sadly, and then after that it was just too late to change it. I'm sure that's part of it, but I believe there is more than just that. There used to be a thriving raiding scene here in SWTOR. When Wildstar was released we were in the latter half of the 2.x cycle and the raiders I knew were getting bored with Dread Fortress / Dread Palace. Some tried ESO, some tried FFXIV, some tried Rift, some went to MOBAs, some caught up on their Steam backlog. No raiders that I talked to had any interest in even trying Wildstar. I don't know if it was the art style, or the IP was uninteresting, or something else, but these people that considered themselves "hardcore raiders" didn't even give WS a second glance. Granted, this is hardly a large sample size (perhaps 40-50 people?), but I find it hard to buy into "WS was too hardcore" as an adequate explanation for their failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I'm sure that's part of it, but I believe there is more than just that. There used to be a thriving raiding scene here in SWTOR. When Wildstar was released we were in the latter half of the 2.x cycle and the raiders I knew were getting bored with Dread Fortress / Dread Palace. Some tried ESO, some tried FFXIV, some tried Rift, some went to MOBAs, some caught up on their Steam backlog. No raiders that I talked to had any interest in even trying Wildstar. I don't know if it was the art style, or the IP was uninteresting, or something else, but these people that considered themselves "hardcore raiders" didn't even give WS a second glance. Granted, this is hardly a large sample size (perhaps 40-50 people?), but I find it hard to buy into "WS was too hardcore" as an adequate explanation for their failure. The game had a ton of hype and it had a popular launch. I still think the end game difficulty was too much for a lot of people. Even basic dungeons were beating the snot out of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odericko Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Never like seeing peoples online homes closing down, just like I wouldn't like to see SWTOR eventually end. Hope they can find another game they enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 This thread drips with deja vu....... Jerba reported this a month ago: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=953778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) I'm sure that's part of it, but I believe there is more than just that. There used to be a thriving raiding scene here in SWTOR. When Wildstar was released we were in the latter half of the 2.x cycle and the raiders I knew were getting bored with Dread Fortress / Dread Palace. Some tried ESO, some tried FFXIV, some tried Rift, some went to MOBAs, some caught up on their Steam backlog. No raiders that I talked to had any interest in even trying Wildstar. I don't know if it was the art style, or the IP was uninteresting, or something else, but these people that considered themselves "hardcore raiders" didn't even give WS a second glance. Granted, this is hardly a large sample size (perhaps 40-50 people?), but I find it hard to buy into "WS was too hardcore" as an adequate explanation for their failure. Wildstar was an attempt to bring MMO play back to WoW Vanilla style 40 man raid with tons of grindy pre-requisites to even enter the encounters. Not surprising given the original founders were very much old school vanilla WoW developers. SWTOR was never even remotely close to what they tried to do with Wildstar. And I think Wildstar has proven that there is simply no market for that over the top hardcore stuff in MMOs anymore.. at least not for PvE players. Even for PvP.. I think the MMO space will just continue to get cannibalized by the more esport tuned PvP online games. Edited October 10, 2018 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinhammer Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Wildstar was an attempt to bring MMO play back to WoW Vanilla style 40 man raid with tons of grindy pre-requisites to even enter the encounters. Not surprising given the original founders were very much old school vanilla WoW developers. When Wildstar was released I told everyone and their mother it looked just like WoW. The characters, the setting, everything reminded me of WoW, and EVERYone was like "Nah, man, I just don't see it." I find it funny how years later I've been seeing more and more people FINALLY comparing it to WoW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 This thread drips with deja vu....... Jerba reported this a month ago: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=953778 Jerba reported the initial stirrings and unofficial stuff. This thread is for the formal announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atalantia Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The art style was just too *PUKE* not interesting to me. Had a friend give me a 7 day Pass? played with them for that then we both quit. And i, although didnt do any, didnt see anything that reminded me of Vanilla WoW of course most of what I did in Vanilla WoW once I got to 60 was AB battleground And I love playing the Vanilla WoW servers that are around now, and cant wait for Blizzard to open the classic servers if they stay true to Vanilla before the Burning Crusade pre patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JattaGin Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 One SWTOR MMO Killer What does that mean? P. S. Just noted while typing this reply that after some 1.5 years or so, the smilie and text formatting buttons finally work again. Hooray. No manual code typing anymore. :):cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOfTheWarriorx Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 So WildStar officially announced its impending closure today Yeah I heard some peeps talken bout it on fleet on Star Forge. Seems to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucigenocide Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 they shot themselves in the foot with that combat system. it was only really good for one type of content. for leveling it just got exhausting and for pvp you'd just blanket the whole floor in teleghraphs and there's no dodging out of all that. loved the artstyle,exploration and the music though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falensawino Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) I hate to see any MMOs close...they aren't being replaced with new ones...but Wildstar was dumb to begin with. My thoughts exactly. Same with Firefall, a first person shooter MMO sounded nice on paper but the character, level and map/environment design was awful. Edited October 10, 2018 by Falensawino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalainnia Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I personally think it mostly comes down to money and IP and the end of the day, Wildstar and Swtor have some core similarities in flopped idea/systems. Both suffered from massive server issues be it to much space or to little, Both had horrible issues with cheating and MMR for pvp along with gear/scaling. Both suffered from Engines not being able to handle X amount of ppl on the screen at once. Both were forced to make the switch to implement F2P aspects from a full Sub model due to sub loss. (Wildstar did have the option to buy currency in game with C r e e d though) A few things that I do think made Swtor stand out above wildstar though is that nothing really comes close ( kinda Gw2 in terms of voice) to Swtors Original 8 class stories and how the base world was fully voiced with numerous in game cut scenes really made everyone feel attached to what they were doing. For me my main draw to Wildstar was by far the combat and the pvp and the raiding at really difficult levels of play.It just clearly showed that was a niche part of the overall MMO community and wildstar took far to long to add in elements that were more appealing to someone that wasn't looking for something super hardcore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalainnia Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 My thoughts exactly. Same with Firefall, a first person shooter MMO sounded nice on paper but the character, level and map design was awful. I personally like Firefall in beta when ppl would thump everywhere and had a tree progression system. It's almost like that game got progressively worse as it moved forward tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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