Mournblood Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 It's already been said here, and echoed throughout the forums, but I'm a little dismayed that AP PTs were overlooked. While they have some of the best burst DPS in the game, they have the weakest DCDs currently. Other DPS classes that have comparable DPS have far, far better survival tools that allow them to contribute more meaningful DPS. I wasn't expecting some huge buffs for AP PTs, but something, ANYTHING, to improve either Kolto Overload or Energy Shield would have been appropriate. Most of the community would agree with me here. What's most concerning about AP PTs being neglected (yet again) is that it will likely be some time before Bioware does another major balance review like this, and to expect AP PTs to remain as cannon fodder until then is both unreasonable and irresponsible. For those who agree with this, I urge you to PM Eric with your concerns. It's the only possible way they might reconsider including AP PT in the utility changes for 5.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeneas_Falco Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 So there will be no more changes? No nerfs to Arsenal mercs' big damage and mercs' in general big survivability? . Arsenal Merc damage does not need to be nerfed. Not only does it not only not need to be nerfed, but it underperforms in NiM Ops. The spec's damage potential should in fact be raised to what it was prior to the last round of nerfs, since the damage output was fine then and not in need of nerfing. What makes Arsenal Mercs feel OP in PVP is their survivability. They have some of the best defenses for a DPS spec in the game. *That* is what needs adjusting, not damage output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farferello Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I think my Sorc and Sage would have preferred a damage buff than a defensive buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glocko Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) I can see why these changes were necessary seeing that the community has been screaming about improving Merc, Operativeand sniper defensives. We are fine with where PT and Juggs are at since there is barely a mention of any issues on the forums. It is obvious that these changes are not based on in game experiences because they missed the mark by 180 degrees Edited April 6, 2018 by Glocko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragoshNashu Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Wow, so if I calculated this correctly, a Lightning sorc who refreshes the Static barrier on himself all the time, will have about 48% DR now! 20% from armor + 3% from utility + 15% from lightning bolt stacks + 10% from Deionized = 48% That makes it so Lightning has the highest passive DR between all DPS specs, huh. Only mara with cloak of pain active can have higher or a tank... That's pretty damn good if you ask me. Can we start a petition to remove threat drop from cloud mind, and give taunt to sorcs? then we'll have the perfect tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmanoWanga Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 No Guardian/Jugg fix, no Sage/Sorc fix, but Sniper defensive buff, gg wp!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirtastropohe Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 does not seem to address the real issues going on in game for a log time, especially for PvP. Still seeing no reason to log in regularly these days. Good work BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloi_BG Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 So there will be no more changes? No nerfs to Arsenal mercs' big damage What a strange little world you inhabit... Please nerf the damage of the already worst spec lmao Damage nerfs is the last thing we need, both in PVE and PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 That's it?! Where's my sorc buff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalonVII Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 This is just garbage. Utter garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AscendingSky Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) Keith, why do you insist on keeping the survivability of Powertech/Vanguard tanks well below Mercenaries/Commandos? PT/VG tanks are by far the squishiest tanks, and we didn't get any of the awesome DCDs you dumped en masse on Mercs/Mandos. We need MUCH more than a small adjustment to the DR from one single utility talent to make up for this. Maybe I should just roll a DPS Commando instead and tank on that? They can certainly absorb more damage than my tank Vanguard, AND they'll probably hold aggro better than my Vanguard will once you nerf VG/PT damage even more while not turning up threat generation nearly enough to compensate. Or I'll just give up tanking entirely, and contribute to making tanks even harder to acquire for group content. Why should I suffer through tedium, frustration, and constant deaths and repair bills when EA clearly doesn't want anyone to play tanks anymore, in PvP or PvE? I'm not that much of a masochist. Edited April 6, 2018 by AscendingSky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibokagain Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 It's already been said here, and echoed throughout the forums, but I'm a little dismayed that AP PTs were overlooked. While they have some of the best burst DPS in the game, they have the weakest DCDs currently. Other DPS classes that have comparable DPS have far, far better survival tools that allow them to contribute more meaningful DPS. I wasn't expecting some huge buffs for AP PTs, but something, ANYTHING, to improve either Kolto Overload or Energy Shield would have been appropriate. Most of the community would agree with me here. What's most concerning about AP PTs being neglected (yet again) is that it will likely be some time before Bioware does another major balance review like this, and to expect AP PTs to remain as cannon fodder until then is both unreasonable and irresponsible. For those who agree with this, I urge you to PM Eric with your concerns. It's the only possible way they might reconsider including AP PT in the utility changes for 5.9. Agree ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibokagain Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 That's it?! Where's my sorc buff? I'll trade you some dps buffs for some dcd buffs! -signed AP PT/VG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadecounty Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Honest question, would anyone even be upset if they just made merc reflect a baseline ability for bounty hunters? I don't think it would make tanks overpowered, and the DPS PT specs could badly use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerglord Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Sorcs/Sage need more damage, especially lightning need higher burst, our burst can't do any pressure in PVP. Please Bioware just compare Mercs and Sniper damage to Sorcs(all are ranged DPS), and our damage is not lower just because we all the time running to survive so this DCD buff should help, it will but very little and no buff for madness Noone is happy to see Sorc and PT DPS in ranked(except opposite team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banthabreeder Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Why not just delete the Sage Balance character? It's the weakest class in pvp and yet nothing is ever done to improve it's survivability, speed or damage. Used to be my favorite to play now it just collects dust since it's not even worth playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainrycKarr Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Buff to Sniper defensives. Virtually nothing for DPS PT + massive nerf to the tank disciple (though I get why - skanks are aids.) GG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACATW Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Sniper DCD buff was DESPERATELY needed. Thank you so much, we all know how hard it is to play sniper in this dps jugg / pt friendly environment. (I admit I cracked up near the last part of this post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendraP Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Sniper DCD buff was DESPERATELY needed. Thank you so much, we all know how hard it is to play sniper in this dps jugg / pt friendly environment. (I admit I cracked up near the last part of this post) Haha +1 but hey, at least we're not PTs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhurwin Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) And you know what the problem with that is? They still do no damage for a burst class. They can’t kill anything, so all it means is they are now an even bigger parsing dummy. Most Lightning Sorcs would gladly sacrifice some of their already good survivability for some extra dps. Meh, I believe a properly played sorc does more than enough DPS in PvP currently, it's just spread out over multiple targets making it much easier to live/heal through. ST version of Chain Lightning that is also auto crit w/ affliction on the target would go a long way to helping our ST "burst" while not really impacting our overall DPS too much. Edited April 7, 2018 by Dhurwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meddani Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Why not just delete the Sage Balance character? It's the weakest class in pvp and yet nothing is ever done to improve it's survivability, speed or damage. Used to be my favorite to play now it just collects dust since it's not even worth playing. this. i really want to play telekinetics sage/lightning sorc but this spec hits like a wet noodle =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaGrimm Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalonVII Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I'll trade you some dps buffs for some dcd buffs! -signed AP PT/VG This right here. I wish I had the damage mitigation that sorcs now have. This is asinine. If they want to swap some of our dps for their defenses, I'll happily make that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuuu Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) This show Bioware has NO clue what there doing, nothing proposed FIXES anything, and " skank" tank changes are even worse, You say you play the "game" and actual "listen" to us but everything you do contradicts that. Point of utilties changes was supposed to Fix broke DCD many classes have, instead of doing that , you seem to ADD more Edited April 8, 2018 by Kyuuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalonVII Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 This show Bioware has NO clue what there doing, nothing proposed FIXES anything, and " skank" tank changes are even worse, You say you play the "game" and actual "listen" to us but everything you do contradicts that. Point of utilties changes was supposed to Fix broke DCD many classes have, instead of doing that , you seem to ADD more Add more for everyone who doesn't need it and the one class crying out in desperation for it. PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts