Zidovain Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) As the title says. I propose a warzone desigend as such. MOBA's is and have been a very popular gaming platform for years now. I would think, SWToR should tap in it. Yes yes, before any violent reactions, just hear me out for a bit This is something that just hit me and I wanted to share it right away, that said, I wouldn't have in-depth mechanics in place to spice up your imagination. However I will have few details as how I imagine it to be in the typical MOBA style setting. That said, the map will have this typical layout: http://i68.tinypic.com/orkow0.png Mechanics: 1) 5v5 or 8v8?? 2) There will only be a finite number of "creep waves". This will keep us in the 12-15 minute warzone like a civil war or a voidstar. So I'm thinking 3 to 5 waves. 3) Each wave gets stronger every time they spawn. May consist of Sith and Jedi, rancors, wampas, super droids and the likes. Finally a "HERO" will join the last and final wave. For the Empire it's (but not limited to) Darth Malgus and for the Republic it's (but not limited to) Satele Shan. Each HERO will remain at the base to defend it until the final wave where the hero will join the wave and go on the offensive. 4) The objective is to ultimately destroy the enemy base (shocker). 5) Players respawn at the base and the respawn time go up by 10 seconds every time they die. This will eventually allow one side to successfully make a "PUSH" into the base. I know the idea is crude and the details are minimal. But I think it's enough to give us a picture of how it works. IMHO it can be really fun. Edited March 16, 2018 by Zidovain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I love the idea!!! Good description too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 WoW has something going into that direction, people seem to love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRogue Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 WoW has something going into that direction, people seem to love it. Would you be referring to Alterac Valley?? That was some crazy stuff there. I think it's a 16v16 or 20v20! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Would you be referring to Alterac Valley?? That was some crazy stuff there. I think it's a 16v16 or 20v20! lol No, the new instance, it was on test a few weeks ago. 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seireeni Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I've never actually played any MOBAs or anything like that, but it sounds interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xordevoreaux Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) In a magical land with no lag, maybe. Convince me they can fix the server lag now in ops and other places, then fine. Otherwise, this game's engine just can fit enough hamsters on the wheel for it. Edited March 16, 2018 by xordevoreaux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toraak Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Would you be referring to Alterac Valley?? That was some crazy stuff there. I think it's a 16v16 or 20v20! lol Unless WoW has changed it, Alterac Valley used to be 40 Vs 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaerethDL Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 no thanks I don't like moba's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForfiniteStories Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I've never actually played any MOBAs or anything like that, but it sounds interesting! MOBA is the new kid slang for RTS. If you've played Starcraft or Command and Conquer, you've played MOBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidovain Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 I love the idea!!! Good description too. WoW has something going into that direction, people seem to love it. I've never actually played any MOBAs or anything like that, but it sounds interesting! IKR! Would be great to have this one. Thanks! In a magical land with no lag, maybe. Convince me they can fix the server lag now in ops and other places, then fine. Otherwise, this game's engine just can fit enough hamsters on the wheel for it. True. BW has got to do something about that "lag". No, the new instance, it was on test a few weeks ago. 10/10 Unless WoW has changed it, Alterac Valley used to be 40 Vs 40. Would you be referring to Alterac Valley?? That was some crazy stuff there. I think it's a 16v16 or 20v20! lol Sounds like fun! I dunno if the game can handle a largely populated warzone but if it could it would be AWESOME. With regards to that I actually am unsure. I did put 5v5 or 8v8. But more players certainly would make it more interesting. Perhaps a 12v12 or 16v16.. 20v20 or more? no thanks I don't like moba's. MOBA is the new kid slang for RTS. If you've played Starcraft or Command and Conquer, you've played MOBA. Action real-time strategy (ARTS) or RTS spawned as a subgenre of Star Craft and other strategy games which was latrer known as MOBA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 MOBA is the new kid slang for RTS. If you've played Starcraft or Command and Conquer, you've played MOBA. I thought MOBA was things like League of Legends. Was I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidovain Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) I thought MOBA was things like League of Legends. Was I wrong? You are correct. DotA, Leage of Legends, Heroes of Storm, etc.. are the famous MOBA's. As mentioned, it is a subgenre of ARTS/RTS style platforms like Star Craft. So from there, it has evolved to DotA, LoL and so on which is better known as MOBA. Edited March 16, 2018 by Zidovain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidovain Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 I wounder what BW thinks of this. Would be nice if Eric and/or Keith share their thoughts here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Would you be referring to Alterac Valley?? That was some crazy stuff there. I think it's a 16v16 or 20v20! lol I loved that map. It’s what always been missing from swtor. The closest I’ve experienced that sort of fighting in swtor was the impromptu OWPVP battles we used to have in section x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidovain Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 I loved that map. It’s what always been missing from swtor. The closest I’ve experienced that sort of fighting in swtor was the impromptu OWPVP battles we used to have in section x. I watched some streams about the Alterac Valley you guys have mentioned and it really does look fun. 40v40 it does have a raid feel to it like what open world PvP in Oricon or on Ilum. It sure looks awesome! SWtor should really get in to it. Although my personal take on it would be a max of 16v16 for the warzone and maybe a separate "event" map for a massive 40v40 clash.. O boy, I would really love to see something like this on SWtoR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Gief. Better than current stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidovain Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Gief. Better than current stuff. True. SWtoR does needs plenty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidovain Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Would really be nice if Keith and Eric drop a line and share their thoughts on this Happy Monday SWtoR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidovain Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Please add this concept come 5.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Think 5.9 is a little too soon. Hopefully in the "distant" future though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rllailieu Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 This certainly is an intriguing idea and I love how you laid it out. I'd say 10v10 would be a good number. It could even branch out into eventual free for alls amongst the bounty hunter or smuggler classes if they want to differentiate it between classes or factions. This is a cool idea and could be expanded on... I hope the devs listen to you, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) As the title says. I propose a warzone desigend as such. MOBA's is and have been a very popular gaming platform for years now. I would think, SWToR should tap in it. Yes yes, before any violent reactions, just hear me out for a bit This is something that just hit me and I wanted to share it right away, that said, I wouldn't have in-depth mechanics in place to spice up your imagination. However I will have few details as how I imagine it to be in the typical MOBA style setting. That said, the map will have this typical layout: http://i68.tinypic.com/orkow0.png Mechanics: 1) 5v5 or 8v8?? 2) There will only be a finite number of "creep waves". This will keep us in the 12-15 minute warzone like a civil war or a voidstar. So I'm thinking 3 to 5 waves. 3) Each wave gets stronger every time they spawn. May consist of Sith and Jedi, rancors, wampas, super droids and the likes. Finally a "HERO" will join the last and final wave. For the Empire it's (but not limited to) Darth Malgus and for the Republic it's (but not limited to) Satele Shan. Each HERO will remain at the base to defend it until the final wave where the hero will join the wave and go on the offensive. 4) The objective is to ultimately destroy the enemy base (shocker). 5) Players respawn at the base and the respawn time go up by 10 seconds every time they die. This will eventually allow one side to successfully make a "PUSH" into the base. I know the idea is crude and the details are minimal. But I think it's enough to give us a picture of how it works. IMHO it can be really fun. They yanked 8v8 years ago in this MMO because players could not get timely queue pops. What exactly has changed now that would address this issue? Nothing... in fact.. pops are probably less today then when they pulled 8v8. In reality..... MOBA is not a good fit as a bolt-on for this MMO. If you want MOBA... go play one of the games that was built for it, rather then insist on some whacky bolt-on here. Besides.. if they did do this at some point... players would just rail on them for how they implemented it (no matter what) and then criticize them from not copying "game A" or "game B" approach.... etc. etc... because that is exactly how this player base behaves on just about any change or addition to the game. Edited March 28, 2018 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidovain Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) They yanked 8v8 years ago in this MMO because players could not get timely queue pops. What exactly has changed now that would address this issue? Nothing... in fact.. pops are probably less today then when they pulled 8v8. In reality..... MOBA is not a good fit as a bolt-on for this MMO. If you want MOBA... go play one of the games that was built for it, rather then insist on some whacky bolt-on here. Besides.. if they did do this at some point... players would just rail on them for how they implemented it (no matter what) and then criticize them from not copying "game A" or "game B" approach.... etc. etc... because that is exactly how this player base behaves on just about any change or addition to the game. Point taken and you are entitled to your opinion. You've aslo mentioned some points on why you disagree, but I just don't feel and see it that way. I, along with many others, are convinced that having this is good for SWtoR and its players. Not going to argue with you though. This certainly is an intriguing idea and I love how you laid it out. I'd say 10v10 would be a good number. It could even branch out into eventual free for alls amongst the bounty hunter or smuggler classes if they want to differentiate it between classes or factions. This is a cool idea and could be expanded on... I hope the devs listen to you, my friend. Thanks! I really do hope they would adopt this idea and it would be really nice if we get some feedback from BW and the likes of Keith and Eric Many share our enthusiasm. This can really be a good add-on to what we already have. Right off the bat, players have a good vibe about it and knows it is going to be FUN! Think 5.9 is a little too soon. Hopefully in the "distant" future though. It's just wishful thinking. But yeah, hopefully it gets implemented sooner rather than later Edited March 28, 2018 by Zidovain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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