Been having a blast with this patch and I notice the positivity has been growing from the amount chatter I see in game. PVP is fun again, people are actually playing objectives to win medals instead of constant dps farming. I also thought premades would be a problem but I only went against one and yeah we held our own for about 5 mins until they massacred us, but mostly everyone has been so positive and encouraging other players instead of toxic. Now I cannot vouch for 4v4 because I just finished my pvp weeklies on two characters and haven't played but two 4v4 matches. I had a blast with the new story although short it was well written and fun to play. The new world seemed massive and I have yet to fully explore it. Also the weekly objectives for galatic conquest have been fun grouping with other players and watching some interesting events like a whole raid full of just dps without a single tank or heals without even knowing it, we all had a good laugh as we wiped. No matter what people say, to me I think you have turned things around for this game, it is a more rewarding experience now and more social interactions which I love. I hope people stick around and we can build a bigger population together and maybe bioware will decide to add more content at a faster pace. You may not hear it often, but well done on the direction of your game no matter all the negative feedback you received you still gave it a chance to blossom.

agreed

But But the other ranked players said there is gonna be no competitiveness from now on because there is nothing to work towards and faster progression isn't motivation enough for anyone to play harder. So which is it? 😁 I also believe regs will be a bit more toxic now that ranked is gone, not because yall were any good but because yall will bring that ranked toxic mentality to regs as yall are damage farming then blaming everyone but yourselves for the loss. Good players don't put others down, they put others on their backs without question.

What ranked player? There will be none in two days haha 😄

1) "Retired..", "highly skilled" LOL you guys think you are something special eh? Acting like you played in the olympics or something. Real professionals play for money and real prizes, not some hand out that might aswell be a participation trophy for the ones numb enough to put up with all the ego tripping and measuring contest. 2) Basically you not wanting to give up your "I feel special/superior" awards in a nutshell. Paint it any color you wish I can see through it. If bioware allowed it, this forum would be filled with the nonsense and same nasty environment that is ranked is, and basically is just sugarcoated as to not warrant a ban. I wish you guys can tell us how you really feel like you give it to people in ranked. Good riddance, 95% of the toxic players in regs are from ranked anyways, can't say I'm sad to see you guys go.

They already told you why they removed ranked pvp, you chose not to accept it. Now you have two choices, play or don't play. It's that simple. Speak with your wallet. Good luck!

You sound like you need to hear this man. But you're not special, anybody can do it. They have done it before you, and they will do it after you. There will be somebody better than lebron james one day, and there are millions better than you (which its funny you compared yourself to him). Get over it. Bioware is about making money, they obviously disagree with you and the rest of the vocal minority and now they are trying new things to get more people playing pvp. If it fails they could return to ranked but I have doubts we will ever seen it again. Good luck on your next adventures. There will be no more response from me. You are repeating the same things and I don't work for bioware and can do nothing to help you. I left feedback for something like this to happen, and I'm glad they listened, now I have resubbed and am excited for 7.2. My advice to you is to speak with your wallet if they don't listen. They have the metrics, they will see how many more or less subscribers/participation they get and act accordingly.

it all comes down to you wanting bragging rights and let me feel special award in a 10 year old dying game. Bioware agrees with me, thats what they are putting their money on. If it fails we may see a return of ranked, but I imagine we never will. Good luck

1) Oxymoron 2) Not sure what you are getting at here, elitism and toxicity go hand in hand.

wrong there is a difference between finishing the race and not finishing at all.

1) IE let me feel special rewards 2) This isn't basketball where size, fitness, athletics are put into play. And if you ask any one of those guys they didn't get there without practice and determination. And they will mostly tell you, that yes anyone can do it if they put their mind to it. 3)1-2% of the population got gold because thats all that allowed for it, and the most determined, and experienced won it. 4) so obviously not many people played ranked right? So what is biowares incentive for putting a lot of time into developing a gametype that nobody wanted to play? 5) You want a "let me feel special reward". This is a 10 year old game, there is no competitive esports built around it, the population has dwindled down to a handful of servers and ranked isn't being played. You are likely beating up on people with 1% of the amount of time you've played and you want to have bragging rights over them lol. 6) I've never heard of anyone that doesn't like winning.

1) now you understand why a person would want to get better, so it didn't take an absurd amount of grinding to get rewarded. This is why competitive games in the past decade have rewarded you for trying to improve your skills by speeding up progression. 2) It usually amounts to this, the amount of time and practice someone has invested in the game usually dictates their skill level. So at the end of the day, the people with more time, no jobs, no kids, just sat at home all day playing swtor endlessly would be the ones to benefit the most from ranked and earn the best rewards. I'm not saying that isn't fair, but that is just the nature of the beast. My solution was just to have a tiered reward system for regular players that were more casual so they could also have something to look forward to at the end of the season for their participation besides diddly squat. They didn't even have to be as good as ranked rewards. Ranked players got all the good stuff for so long, the gravy train that I was talking about. Bioware now has a solution for this, you can still play 4v4 all day if you want, you can have premades, you can still enjoy playing how you used to play, you can still earn rewards, but now ranked players are upset about giving those rewards away to more casual players. most of your rewards aren't even disappearing like you said, you get to keep them. But now more people get to participate in a more friendly environment that welcomes new players. You shouldn't be mad, you should embrace that fact.

1) oh now you think something is toxic, funny. 2) literally anybody can be good at ranked and earn those rewards with enough time invested and practice. The problem was nobody wanted to put up with the constant harassment and deal with the egos so you missed out on some really good players. It became a small clique. And at the end of the day bioware obviously wasn't looking for that in their game, they actually want more people playing believe it or not. So take that up with them not me.

Wear the flair, it will make it easier to identify you in warzones so I can melt you down like I do the rest of those that wear flairs. Easy targets. You sound like you only want to play for the rewards anyways and don't even like swtor pvp, so maybe try out another game, maybe the world of warcraft solos you were talking about. I hope you stick around for 7.2 to be honest. It's going to be fun a lot more people are going to be playing, if you are good then prove it on the battlefield where it counts.

Very telling why you are upset you don't get to feel special anymore. Gotcha

LOL This snide remark here is a literal example of what I was talking about. As there are many, many, examples through-out this thread. You couldn't make it any easier for me.

I'm not here to waste time for you man, the evidence is laid out throughout this thread all you have to go is go back and read it. If you are oblivious to it that isn't my fault, you've already been called out by multiple people.

If I look at a banana and see it's half black, I can tell it's rotten. I don't need to eat it to find out. Just like I can tell how you act in this forum likely reflects how you act in game.

1: You ignore the fact I already told you progressing faster towards rewards for being competitive is a certainly a reason. This is an example in most modern competitive titles. Halo Infinite, Call of duty, Destiny 2, etc, you get rewarded more XP the better you play, and earning rewards at a much faster rate. This is a staple of competitive games. 2: This is our point, you cannot see your own toxic behaviour or just don't care, your elitism that you actually think you are better than us with zero evidence and think you deserve some kind of special reward that you can hold over everyone else that you think proves it. That is all going away in a couple days

haha these guys are oblivious to their own toxicity they've stewed in it so long. You reap what you sow.

If the game actually had moderators then ranked would practically be non-exsistant, you wouldn't even be able to get a pop because half the people would be banned! Thats how toxic it is! 😜

So who cares, do you wanna feel special or something? Getting things at a faster pace is motivation enough for most people to try and play better and continue to get more skilled at the game while also being inviting to new players.

You can literally apply the same thing with ranked. People can be paid to carry, or pay to win/trade, which happened a lot. You could be a bad player in ranked but still get carried in games as long as you kept playing. If someone wants to take twice/three times as long to progress then so be it, they will have earned the rewards fair and square and hopefully gotten more skilled in the process. The reward for being skilled is to progress quicker and be rewarded quicker. At the end of the day you are still making excuses and trying to validate toxic behaviour, elitism, and unsportmanslike conduct, in no way are you correct in doing that and this is one of the things bioware has specifically addressed.

1. Competition now works this way. The better you do in regs and the more you help out your team the faster you progress and the more points you earn per match. The way it always should have been. 2. So you already insenuate that I'm not good enough for ranked, you are so blinded you don't see your own toxicity and are making excuses for bad behaviour. Another reason why ranked was disbanded. You guys also think so highly of yourselves and disrespect those who don't play ranked and call them insults like "regstars". It's pretty funny the entitlement. Now the little clique is over, either you embrace it or you move on to another game. That is your only two options in a couple days.

LOL "Not rooted in fact." The statement from bioware in the OP says otherwise. I guess you know more facts than their metrics and all the reports they received on toxic player environment. I'm not beating down the ranked community at all but I bore witness to their toxic environment throughout many seasons, not just torwards me but towards other players.. it's just an objective truth at this point and bioware confirmed it. I watched kogass stream, they were toxic to kogass on a daily basis my man. They even went to his stream to troll him. You are in a stage of denial, let it pass. Why should ranked get all the cool rewards and regs nothing at all? I play just as hard as you do in regs and I've honed my skills. I shouldn't have to put up with such toxicity of ranked just to earn some cool rewards for my participation and efforts. I never said the rewards had to be as good as ranked rewards but regs were so unrewarding as it was. Under the new system if people refuse to put in effort they wont progress as fast as good players so it will definitely give them some incentive to play better. You guys had the gravy train so long and now it's over.. can't wait to earn them sweet, sweet, rewards!