MadDutchman Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Ashoka from which season of TCW? If she's mastered Jar'Kai, then we can assume older TCW ahsoka, and with the "in prime" rules, we can assume end Season 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 16, 2016 Author Share Posted January 16, 2016 If she's mastered Jar'Kai, then we can assume older TCW ahsoka, and with the "in prime" rules, we can assume end Season 5Essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Calling all spectators! The Games have begun! You can keep track with everything that's happening here. And the first stages of discussion will be kicking off here. Edited January 17, 2016 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Cornucopia Bloodbath The Hunger Games will begin with all 24 tributes starting off in the Cornucopia Zone, in the centre, a treasure trove filled with weapons, food & equipment. In this initial stage the above phases apply, but will have differing parameters. Decision Phase: Before the countdown reaches zero and the Games begin each tribute must make a choice, whether it be to grab a pack and bolt, head straight for the trees, or cut their way towards the Cornucopia for the best loot. Before moving on to the next phases, spectators will debate what each tribute is expected to do, whether they’ll attempt to grab some loot or leave for the other zones immediately, and how close to the Cornucopia they'll get. It will also be considered if they will attack or avoid a specific tribute, and what abilities they have at their disposal to get them in and out as quickly as possible. Encounter Phase: Once a verdict has been for each tribute and their advantages considered, the Head Gamemaker will throw the subsequent variables into a hat and randomly generate an encounter base on their choices. Be it escaping without incident, or encountering another tribute, as well any weapons/packs they manage to acquire. Survival Phase: This phase will only commence if the tribute ends up in a potentially hostile situation i.e. if they encounter another tribute. A mini vs. debate will commence in which, taking into account whether the tributes are armed or not, their personal intentions and resolve, whether it ends fatally, and if so for whom. There will be no sponsor phase until the Cornucopia Bloodbath is over, instead the phases will repeat until every tribute’s actions in this zone have been resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 ================================================== Alright everyone, the countdown has reached zero and the Games are officially underway: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8782315#post8782315 Our first confrontations is a two on two, Obi-Wan Kenobi & Ahsoka Tano vs the Dathomirian Nightbrothers, Darth Maul & Savage Opress. All four tributes have managed to secure packs of unknown contents, however only Savage is armed, with a virboaxe. They are all in peak fighting condition and ready to go, so how do we see this panning out? NOTE: The Cornucopia Bloodbath is a chaotic arena in constant flux, as a result we should only consider this confrontation lasting 30 seconds at most before the circumstances change, and new variables present themselves. ================================================== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadsterPwns Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) I reckon Kenobi and Ahsoka can hold their own for 30 seconds and wait until new variables to come to play, though both are going to get roughed up badly with Maul and Savage dominating the fight. Edited February 5, 2016 by PadsterPwns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karadron Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 ================================================== Alright everyone, the countdown has reached zero and the Games are officially underway: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8782315#post8782315 Our first confrontations is a two on two, Obi-Wan Kenobi & Ahsoka Tano vs the Dathomirian Nightbrothers, Darth Maul & Savage Opress. All four tributes have managed to secure packs of unknown contents, however only Savage is armed, with a virboaxe. They are all in peak fighting condition and ready to go, so how do we see this panning out? NOTE: The Cornucopia Bloodbath is a chaotic arena in constant flux, as a result we should only consider this confrontation lasting 30 seconds at most before the circumstances change, and new variables present themselves. ================================================== Depends on who has better hand-hand skills. As long as Ahsoka can keep away from the pointy end of the ax she should be fine. Overall though don't see any of them dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Depends on who has better hand-hand skills. As long as Ahsoka can keep away from the pointy end of the ax she should be fine. Overall though don't see any of them dying. Well, to be fair, Savage did just TK Ahsoka with a force throw, and Maul has shown the ability to choke Kenobi... If only Maul didn't prefer a martial approach... That said, is this Savage near the end of his life, or... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karadron Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Well, to be fair, Savage did just TK Ahsoka with a force throw, and Maul has shown the ability to choke Kenobi... If only Maul didn't prefer a martial approach... That said, is this Savage near the end of his life, or... ? Ahsoka is OP. 'nuff said. I mean she wasn't instakilled by Grievous or Ventress when still a babby 'prentice. She can stay safe from Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Well, to be fair, Savage did just TK Ahsoka with a force throw, and Maul has shown the ability to choke Kenobi... If only Maul didn't prefer a martial approach... That said, is this Savage near the end of his life, or... ?Ahsoka incurred no injury from that attack though. As for Savage, he is in his prime. Overall interesting thoughts from everyone. Also remember that the option for Kenobi and Ahsoka to flee exists, although that may not be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Well this couldn't be any clearly one sided. The Brothers completely destroy them, neither Obi or Ahsoka have the physicals or martial prowess the other 2 posses, especially Maul, he'll slaughter Obi-Wan in H2H or just Force crush him and then go on to help out Savage if he hadn't already finished Ahsoka. Doesn't really help that Savage has a weapon he'd be a master in using either. Edited February 5, 2016 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Ahsoka incurred no injury from that attack though. As for Savage, he is in his prime. Overall interesting thoughts from everyone. Also remember that the option for Kenobi and Ahsoka to flee exists, although that may not be possible. As Wolf said, Maul is faster. Doesn't need to incur dmg Beni. All Savage would need to do, is do what he just did to perform a BFR, which leaves it Maul & Savage vs Kenobi. Are there any elevation changes in the immediate area? (Such as a sudden drop, even if it is small) Yes, Kenobi has survived against the brothers solo for more than 30 seconds before, but, he was armed then... In regards to BFR, doesn't need to be long, a mere 5 seconds would give them an edge, depending on environment. The REAL question however, is if Ahsoka or Kenobi can take the Vibroaxe from Savage, or if Savage would give it to Maul. If they can't get it away from him... Well... Tough time for the Jedi. Though, they could get away if they could distract Maul, BFR Maul, or get something between them, like collapsing a wall. Edited February 5, 2016 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Yes, Kenobi has survived against the brothers solo for more than 30 seconds before, but, he was armed then... Under specific circumstances which aren't applicable at all here. I see no logical course of action other than running for the Jedi, they don't have any possible way of beating the Brothers. Edited February 5, 2016 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Under specific circumstances which aren't applicable at all here. In other words, my prediction: https://youtu.be/kC9JbW7sc4Y?t=57 + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhjElhu7UHQ&feature=youtu.be&t=117 = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 In other words, my prediction: https://youtu.be/kC9JbW7sc4Y?t=57 + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhjElhu7UHQ&feature=youtu.be&t=117 = Except for the slow and dramatic decapitation, yeah pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Interesting, seems at least everyone is agreed they cannot win, but there are varying opinions on how long they can hold out. That said, what are the chances of Kit Fisto coming to bail them out? Assuming they formed some kind of alliance its in his best interests to look out for and aid them, they would therefore only have to hold out until then. @Silenceo, they are on the bottom level of the Arena so no, just ruined walls and debris. EDIT: On the topic of relieving Savage of his weapon, he does have a cybernetic arm and Kenobi is a master of electronic manipulation, so its possible he could use it to disarm Savage here, as he has in the past. Edited February 5, 2016 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadsterPwns Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I'm sticking with my original point tbh, while Wolf and Sil do raise good points I don't see Maul and Savage finishing it within 30 seconds. This is Obi-"Sokan"-Wan he knows what Maul is capable of, I wouldn't be surprised if he and Ahsoka made a run for it. Not too sure how successful that attempt would be but I still think they won't be taken out just yet, not before the chance of new circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Interesting, seems at least everyone is agreed they cannot win, but there are varying opinions on how long they can hold out. That said, what are the chances of Kit Fisto coming to bail them out? Assuming they formed some kind of alliance its in his best interests to look out for and aid them, they would therefore only have to hold out until then. @Silenceo, they are on the bottom level of the Arena so no, just ruined walls and debris. EDIT: On the topic of relieving Savage of his weapon, he does have a cybernetic arm and Kenobi is a master of electronic manipulation, so its possible he could use it to disarm Savage here, as he has in the past. That before or after Maul kills Obi-Wan? Maul can literally kill Obi-Wan at any time, he's shown dominance over him in multiple instances. This would just leave Ahsoka and she certainly isn't holding out until Kit arrives. Their best chance is to just run. Edited February 5, 2016 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) That before or after Maul kills Obi-Wan? Maul can literally kill Obi-Wan at any time, he's shown dominance over him in multiple instances. This would just leave Ahsoka and she certainly isn't holding out until Kit arrives. Their best chance is to just run.TCW Maul, not TPM Maul. Not that that's really true, as Kenobi survived against the former several times. Edited February 5, 2016 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadsterPwns Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Interesting, seems at least everyone is agreed they cannot win, but there are varying opinions on how long they can hold out. That said, what are the chances of Kit Fisto coming to bail them out? Assuming they formed some kind of alliance its in his best interests to look out for and aid them, they would therefore only have to hold out until then. @Silenceo, they are on the bottom level of the Arena so no, just ruined walls and debris. EDIT: On the topic of relieving Savage of his weapon, he does have a cybernetic arm and Kenobi is a master of electronic manipulation, so its possible he could use it to disarm Savage here, as he has in the past. If Fisto sees this, I can say with a certainty, that he will help them. He's worked with Kenobi and Ahsoka before, seems to be friends with Kenobi (to a certain degree) and before going to fight Sids he said he would have liked Kenobi with him. How effective will he be is another question all together but I'll save that for later. Edit: I keep forgetting this is TPM Maul -__- Edited February 5, 2016 by PadsterPwns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Edit: Oh TPM Maul... Heck even still this is H2H, Maul still wrecks Obi-Wan H2H and he isn't surviving. Either way there's little difference between TCW/TPM Maul other than Force..but even then. Edited February 5, 2016 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Well this couldn't be any clearly one sided. The Brothers completely destroy them, neither Obi or Ahsoka have the physicals or martial prowess the other 2 posses, especially Maul, he'll slaughter Obi-Wan in H2H or just Force crush him and then go on to help out Savage if he hadn't already finished Ahsoka. Doesn't really help that Savage has a weapon he'd be a master in using either. top kek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) OK, so a lot of points have been made for the Brothers and I think their advantage is obvious, so I'll note so advantages that the Jedi possess namely: Kenobi may be outclassed in H2H, but he remains an Ataru master, and has demonstrated the speed and strength to knock Maul back, and even knock him down, with this kicks. Kenobi is a master of the Force, the debris and even the dirt could be weaponised here to off-balance the Brothers. He's also got electronic manipulation, if he can use this power to relieve Savage of his weapon he goes from vulnerable to formidable, through a combination of skill and cunning he could make this happen. Kenobi is a master of Sokan, he isn't going to allow himself to be isolated, cornered or altogether find himself in an indefensible position, Kenobi has limited options, but he will ensure he is able to employ all of them. Ahsoka is outclassed in most respects, but she remains extremely agile, and has used this agility to evade and escape the likes of Grievous. Against the slow swings of Savage it could buy her some time. EDIT: Oh, looks like Zoltan's here. No need for me to continue to defend Kenobi then. Edited February 5, 2016 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadsterPwns Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 top kek. I was wondering when you would show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I was wondering when you would show up. I'm gona form an argument once I stopped caughing up blood from the cancer I got from Wolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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