Russreklaw Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Seriously who thought this trash was a good idea. No class should be "balanced" around such a stupidly strong ability. Take it away and give them something that a monkey on acid didnt think of. If this thing only last a couple seconds then sure.. but its moron proof in it's current form. I know this isnt a huge deal in the overall scope of pvp.. but abilities like this are just dumb and have no place. Hopefully they never add anymore of this type of trash ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiavoIa Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Buff sorc heals and AP PT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russreklaw Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Buff merc dmg and healing.. but replace this garbage ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Seriously who thought this trash was a good idea. No class should be "balanced" around such a stupidly strong ability. Take it away and give them something that a monkey on acid didnt think of. If this thing only last a couple seconds then sure.. but its moron proof in it's current form. I know this isnt a huge deal in the overall scope of pvp.. but abilities like this are just dumb and have no place. Hopefully they never add anymore of this type of trash ability. A sorc got netted before he could use his bubble I am guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobearx Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 A sorc got netted before he could use his bubble I am guessing. !!! OP: L2P that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGoldsilver Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 A sorc got netted before he could use his bubble I am guessing. Might have been a scoundrel, I global a few today while they had E-net on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaigner Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Buff merc dmg and healing.. but replace this garbage ability. Give up on operative. Also, electro net is one of the only causes of sorc healer death. Convert to the anti-sorc class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didy_Kush Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) LOL. Here's some Merc changes Bioware should do. Energy Rebounder and Stabilized Armor should be merged into 1 utility point, just like Powertechs even though Powertechs get it in their skill tree. Rocket out should be able to be used while rooted and should not be hindered by snares. Before anyone is like omg no that would be OP. I play Arsenal Merc in both Solo and Team ranked and am very successful in both with it. It's absolutely disgusting how this classes utility points are set up. To be viable in team ranked I cannot even take movement on blazing bolts because I need both Energy Rebounder and Stabilized armor LOL. These changes I would like to see implemented would make this class even more competent and actually worth playing, although then even more people would jump on the Arsenal Merc train. If anyone disagrees and only does regs I don't care about your opinion as 8v8 pvp lost it's relevance for anything in 2.4 Edited January 12, 2016 by Didy_Kush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeugues Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 OP isn't serious is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philbert Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Completely ignore my reply. Testing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rantank Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I always save mine for a Sin who thinks he's going to get an easy kill and get away again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russreklaw Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Felt better after reading this thread.. guess plenty of people have remarked in some way about this ability. I'd love an ability that would let me unload all my burst on someone.. but I guess having a crutch ability like this limits your chances of buffs to the class. No matter how bad the class people can always say, "well they still have E-net".. and there ya go. I guess that's ok. Hopefully devs don't introduce more silly abilities that limit or eliminate counters. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=803119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bob- Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 if you get owned by electro net in this game 1v1, i'm going to question how you made it far enough in life to even acknowledge this games existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptQuazar Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Electro net should be even stronger. Make it so even cc breakers don't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DariusCalera Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Felt better after reading this thread.. guess plenty of people have remarked in some way about this ability. I'd love an ability that would let me unload all my burst on someone.. but I guess having a crutch ability like this limits your chances of buffs to the class. No matter how bad the class people can always say, "well they still have E-net".. and there ya go. I guess that's ok. Hopefully devs don't introduce more silly abilities that limit or eliminate counters. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=803119 Silly abilities like say 3 types of teleports for 4 different classes and the respective mirrors? (sorc, sin, OP, PT) Or possibly LOLslash? Bubble? Force Shroud? Possibly an ability to give PT/VGs super speed HO/HtL? If you're hoping for silly abilities to not get added then you haven't been paying attention. Also, if you died to a merc/mando with e-net then you either blew your CC breaker on something silly, didn't use your CC breaker when you should have, or decided to keep trying to chase the merc/mando down after you were netter making the damage e-net does even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russreklaw Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 "Also, if you died to a merc/mando with e-net then you either blew your CC breaker on something silly, didn't use your CC breaker when you should have, or decided to keep trying to chase the merc/mando down after you were netter making the damage e-net does even worse." LOL. Yeah those are the only options. /rolls eyes Or I used my cc breaker totally correctly when it was needed only to have a merc show up and cast his "i win" button. And those other abilities I have no problem with.. Sure bubble is a tad cheesy but none of those abilities can guarantee a loss like net can. As many posters in other threads have also commented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Electro net should be even stronger. Make it so even cc breakers don't work! Yeah, what amazes me is how people don't seem to realize, that enet is actually counterable... I mean, you'd think this one ability could be thrown on anyone at any given time, and they will always die with absolutely no way to avoid it. That is totally NOT the case. People need to L2P, sorry to say it, but it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DariusCalera Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 "Also, if you died to a merc/mando with e-net then you either blew your CC breaker on something silly, didn't use your CC breaker when you should have, or decided to keep trying to chase the merc/mando down after you were netter making the damage e-net does even worse." LOL. Yeah those are the only options. /rolls eyes Or I used my cc breaker totally correctly when it was needed only to have a merc show up and cast his "i win" button. And those other abilities I have no problem with.. Sure bubble is a tad cheesy but none of those abilities can guarantee a loss like net can. As many posters in other threads have also commented. Well, if you used your CC breaker totally correctly then you should have had it for e-net. If this was a ranked match, then you simply got out played because you didn't understand the abilities of other classes and how they perform. Or you don't understand you class as well as you think you do. On my juggernaut I have multiple ways to partially nullify e-net to the point that I don't really need to worry about it. It's the same with assasins/shadows, sorcs/sages, sents/mara's, PTs/VGs, and slingers/snipers. They all have multiple ways to counter it. The only class that it is the most useful against is the sorc/sage to prevent their bubble and even then it has to be used at precisely the right time or it is wasted. Now, if you think e-net is such an "I win" button, go back and check the rankings for every past season. The merc/mando class is one of the bottom two. Every single season. If it was a guaranteed win for whichever team had it, you would see far, far more mercs and mandos but you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Now, if you think e-net is such an "I win" button, go back and check the rankings for every past season. The merc/mando class is one of the bottom two. Every single season. If it was a guaranteed win for whichever team had it, you would see far, far more mercs and mandos but you don't. Exactly this. ^^^ My goodness. The amount of misdirected energy that goes into whining about something like ENET of all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristrokratie Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Exactly this. ^^^ My goodness. The amount of misdirected energy that goes into whining about something like ENET of all things. Because players get **** 70% of the timeby it it stays in memory much more negative than most other similar abilities. If played properly you can work around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maegi Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Also, electro net is one of the only causes of sorc healer death. I have been noticing an overconfidence in sorc healers lately. Thinking that they can face tank my sniper when i have shatter shot on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodulus Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Exactly this. ^^^ My goodness. The amount of misdirected energy that goes into whining about something like ENET of all things. Just ignore it. It's just whining from keyboard turning and clicking baddies rolling melee that don't get a guaranteed win when electronet is off cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristrokratie Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just ignore it. It's just whining from keyboard turning and clicking baddies rolling melee that don't get a guaranteed win when electronet is off cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Felt better after reading this thread.. guess plenty of people have remarked in some way about this ability. I'd love an ability that would let me unload all my burst on someone.. but I guess having a crutch ability like this limits your chances of buffs to the class. No matter how bad the class people can always say, "well they still have E-net".. and there ya go. I guess that's ok. Hopefully devs don't introduce more silly abilities that limit or eliminate counters. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=803119 I commented in that thread Electro net was useful for one day when it came out then every one found that a cc breaker med pack would make a merc waste it if used on you as a opener. The only time a merc should net some one is when a healer is about to die in ranked then net burst means healer dead... So many pvpers have adapted to this ability that it use is now situational at best.. Hell when running with a healer i let them know i just broke net and use nothing other then pocket heals yet there are some merc on my server that make this part of there opener on a dsp class it laughable... OP here a tip don't use your cc breaker at all if you are guarding you should have backup.. If you are in the mix of things healer can heal you through it. If you are one on one cc break net use med pack and kick the merc butt and laugh like the rest of us do. Merc are glass cannons they die easy enough Edited January 12, 2016 by Neoforcer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I commented in that thread Electro net was useful for one day when it came out then every one found that a cc breaker med pack would make a merc waste it if used on you as a opener. The only time a merc should net some one is when a healer is about to die in ranked then net burst means healer dead... So many pvpers have adapted to this ability that it use is now situational at best.. Hell when running with a healer i let them know i just broke net and use nothing other then pocket heals yet there are some merc on my server that make this pat of there opener on a dsp it laughable... OP here a tip don't use your cc breaker at all if you are guarding you should have backup.. If you are in the mix of things healer can heal you through it. If you are one on one cc break net use med pack and kick the merc butt and laugh like the rest of us do. Merc are glass cannons they die easy enough if enet causes someone to blow a breaker and a medpac while having accumulated zero resolve, then the enet has done its job. it's not the "iwin" button it was when 2.0 came out. but really. when is that scenario working out for you? in regs on an off node? or maybe against another team that's hopelessly outgunned in the first place? anyway, that seems like a hell of a trade off. assuming you're on your sin. op..merc can't stop op from lolroll and healing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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