DakhathKilrathi Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Seriously? Whether you're for it or against it, the player base had a right to know what was coming with regard to a major change like that. Many people have already bought a great deal of sub time, lasting until well after the expansion. MMOs change all the time, but the right thing to do would have been to announce the changes as soon as they decided for sure that they were going to make them. In light of this (and the complete lack of response to GSF bugs), I'm going to seriously reconsider paying anything else for this game. Level scaling needs to be optional. It's a great feature, if you want it. I can't deny that it offers some advantages if you want to go back and help friends or something - but only if that's what you want. I don't. I don't want to be forced to find a group for old content. I didn't enjoy finding a group for it when it wasn't outdated; why would I want to now? I don't want to deal with trash mobs while I'm trying to RP. I don't want to have to kill every single trash mob between myself and my destination. And I shouldn't have to, if I don't want to. I'd be okay with reduced or old reward rates while scaling is turned off, but it needs to be optional. What I'm not okay with is not finding out about a major change to the way the game is played just three weeks before it happens. I feel as though I've been deceived here, and I hate to say it, but I think that was the intention. They must have known that the player base wouldn't be happy about this. And before someone who just can't stand someone having a different opinion asks: no, I'm not quitting. I'll be sticking around to play GSF until that community finally dies. But I probably won't be paying for anything. And I won't be grouping with people either. Edited October 1, 2015 by DakhathKilrathi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTynell Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 It's called cowardice. You think they don't realize the only real perk left for subscribing is Open Beta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 you are amusing it was ready to show until recently and can you imagine the reaction without a working demonstration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakhathKilrathi Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) It's called cowardice. You think they don't realize the only real perk left for subscribing is Open Beta? I want to be able to defend their decision here. I really do. But I just can't see why they waited. Maybe someone from the community team can weigh in on this. you are amusing it was ready to show until recently and can you imagine the reaction without a working demonstration? They announced scaling in ops and flashpoints weeks ago without a working demonstration. Or did you forget about that? Edited October 1, 2015 by DakhathKilrathi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandFlurry Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) I want to be able to defend their decision here. I really do. But I just can't see why they waited. Maybe someone from the community team can weigh in on this. They announced scaling in ops and flashpoints weeks ago without a working demonstration. Or did you forget about that? That's because of the FACT that our threads were taken down usually. Me and a LOT of other ppl were pizzed off about this crapper. Edited October 1, 2015 by MandFlurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Killjoy Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 They KNEW how many people would have unsubbed months ago had they known this was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelaso Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 They KNEW how many people would have unsubbed months ago had they known this was coming. This. They just wanted to milk whatever money they could before dropping this information. Shady business tactics at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelaso Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Seriously, if someone isn't upset over this than they are just part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 They announced scaling in ops and flashpoints weeks ago without a working demonstration. Or did you forget about that? and what was the reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newyankalt Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Everyone was subbed for those extra rewards, cheapest sub is 30 days so yeah they pretty much scammed everyone into this. People would have been out before now if they knew this was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakhathKilrathi Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Everyone was subbed for those extra rewards, cheapest sub is 30 days so yeah they pretty much scammed everyone into this. People would have been out before now if they knew this was coming. Yeah. It sure looks that way, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithEmpress Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I do agree that the reason they choose not to reveal this information is probably to keep subs, as some people will likely drop there subscription over the level scaling. How many, who knows? I can for one see both the cons and pros to the system. I like being reward if I go back to old content, but I also like being over leveled when gathering resources or doing some other activities. Still think it would have been better to make it optional this way everyone happy. They could have simple not given them any reward if they choose to not down level. I'll give it a try and if it not to my liking then I'll drop to F2P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teladis Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Because it is not a big deal? Also, look at this community. I don't blame them for waiting until the last second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeristash Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Everyone was subbed for those extra rewards, cheapest sub is 30 days so yeah they pretty much scammed everyone into this. People would have been out before now if they knew this was coming. How so? Walk off & leave their beloved toons hypercrate shinnies or relegate themselves to credit, raid, gear & daily restrictions across the board as pref? Who we kidding here? This community is nowhere near that level of self sacrificing They wouldn't of went anywhere then and they aren't going anywhere now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakhathKilrathi Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 How so? Walk off & leave their beloved toons hypercrate shinnies or relegate themselves to credit, raid, gear & daily restrictions across the board as pref? Who we kidding here? This community is nowhere near that level of self sacrificing They wouldn't of went anywhere then and they aren't going anywhere now. Is that so? I spent ~4 months as preferred earlier this year, and I'd do it again. If you plan ahead it's actually not too bad. Realize there's something you forgot? Build up credits - the cap doesn't prevent that - then use a referral link every 90 days. Then you have 7 days to buy whatever before you're restricted again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeristash Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Is that so? I spent ~4 months as preferred earlier this year, and I'd do it again. If you plan ahead it's actually not too bad. Realize there's something you forgot? Build up credits - the cap doesn't prevent that - then use a referral link every 90 days. Then you have 7 days to buy whatever before you're restricted again. You don't really think the fleet prima donnas could rough it 4 hours, never mind 4 months do you? They're already showing effects of withdrawal because the cartel market went a week without update. How do you think they'll feel when they only have 350k at the gtn to spend on that 3 million dollar dropship? Or how about when they're kicked out of their guild leader positions and have to level with only the most basic xp That's just mass capitulation waiting to happen. As tremel would say, they growl but their loyal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakhathKilrathi Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Because it is not a big deal? Also, look at this community. I don't blame them for waiting until the last second. Missed this earlier, but: you can't say it's not a big deal and then point at the community's reaction in the same post. It clearly is a big deal, and their reaction is proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodrac Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Missed this earlier, but: you can't say it's not a big deal and then point at the community's reaction in the same post. It clearly is a big deal, and their reaction is proof. This community would overreact to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minty Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 It's tin-foil hat central in these parts. DONT YOU SEE!!!! the whole expansion is a smoke screen its nothing but rehashed heroics from now one and no one will know! OPEN YOUR EYES MAN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakhathKilrathi Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 DONT YOU SEE!!!! the whole expansion is a smoke screen its nothing but rehashed heroics from now one and no one will know! OPEN YOUR EYES MAN!!! I'm pretty sure no one's implying it's a conspiracy. We are, however, pointing out that it was a little underhanded to delay the announcement until everyone who was going to subscribe for the expansion for early access has already done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 It's called cowardice. You think they don't realize the only real perk left for subscribing is Open Beta? No kidding. Less time for word of mouth I think but it wont save BW on this mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasussgc Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Probably more than likely just making sure they were 100% confident it was going to be implemented when KoTFE launches before announcing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teladis Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Probably more than likely just making sure they were 100% confident it was going to be implemented when KoTFE launches before announcing it. Logic does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakhathKilrathi Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Probably more than likely just making sure they were 100% confident it was going to be implemented when KoTFE launches before announcing it. Except this was rumored weeks ago, and was (supposedly) in the closed beta. They've been pretty sure of it for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaerethDL Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Listen all you people can put your tin foil hats away, if they really thought nobody would want to sub they wouldn't have made the change, they obviously think its a good idea and will keep more people playing in the long run. I like the idea myself and don't sit there and tell me i'm part of the problem, if you don't like it, leave! Stop complaining, its already done and over with, vote with your wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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