Quinan Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 What I find incredibly funny is how much ppl instantly focus on Ferreus clicking. Why does this matter? This is how he plays and he clearly does it well. Would he do better as a keybinder? who the f*ck cares! At the end of the day this video was made to prove 1 single point. He clicks and he still does well. This is his preference and he is 1 of many ppl that click instead of keybind so there are many ppl that would enjoy this. I personally keybind, its how i've always played since playing an MMO. If I tried to click I would fail miserably, I wouldnt enjoy it and it wouldn't suit me. Its the exact opposite for Ferreus. This is how he has always played and he has perfected it, so much so he has just as much awareness of his surroundings as a keybinder does. He has memorised where his abilities are so this leaves him to be able to click without taking his eyes off the fight itself. I for one could not do this and I personally (my own opinion) think that this takes a lot of skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOvertone Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 OP saw the Arena Dev Livestream from some time ago where the Devs were clicking and backpedaling. He witnessed the horror, and not realizing it was bad, tried to emulate it. I blame the Devs. At least OP doesn't backpedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunner_Venda Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 What I find incredibly funny is how much ppl instantly focus on Ferreus clicking. Why does this matter? This is how he plays and he clearly does it well. Would he do better as a keybinder? who the f*ck cares! At the end of the day this video was made to prove 1 single point. He clicks and he still does well. This is his preference and he is 1 of many ppl that click instead of keybind so there are many ppl that would enjoy this. I personally keybind, its how i've always played since playing an MMO. If I tried to click I would fail miserably, I wouldnt enjoy it and it wouldn't suit me. Its the exact opposite for Ferreus. This is how he has always played and he has perfected it, so much so he has just as much awareness of his surroundings as a keybinder does. He has memorised where his abilities are so this leaves him to be able to click without taking his eyes off the fight itself. I for one could not do this and I personally (my own opinion) think that this takes a lot of skill. The class he's playing lends itself to faceroll playstyle. Stay back, click abilities, watch people explode under merc long range burst. It works well, especially when you have a great team and no pressure. Clicking (and mercs) suck if you have a bad team or any kind of pressure. That doesn't make clicking viable for PVP. Try clicking and keyboard turning with a deception sin that has to maul people in the back, or a concealment op trying to backstab and remain out of a firing arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinan Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The class he's playing lends itself to faceroll playstyle. Stay back, click abilities, watch people explode under merc long range burst. It works well, especially when you have a great team and no pressure. Clicking (and mercs) suck if you have a bad team or any kind of pressure. That doesn't make clicking viable for PVP. Try clicking and keyboard turning with a deception sin that has to maul people in the back, or a concealment op trying to backstab and remain out of a firing arc. As I said, I would be utterly ***** trying to click, focus and turn well, but its clear Ferreus can do it. I am pretty sure I have seen him play a sin and looked fine to me. Though I have never played sin so no idea really but I reckon he would still hold his own regardless. He knows his stuff and ppl should focus on the tips he can give about the actual match and not focus on the clicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace-w Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 You need to get out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinan Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 You need to get out more. Nah outside is boring, inside I get to play with lightsabers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlissDivine Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 As the old saying goes. . . All clickers are neckbeards, and all neckbeards are clickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 "clicking done right" expression is like an oxymoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerkWork Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Pfff... Clicking and Keybinding? What is this the Stone Age? A true PvPer uses the force to control their character. Learn 2 force scrubs Stay pleb Edited March 23, 2015 by FerkWork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace-w Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 As the old saying goes. . . All clickers are neckbeards, and all neckbeards are clickers. Did you see a neck?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacri Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 kell why u dont want to bind ur sith?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunner_Venda Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 As I said, I would be utterly ***** trying to click, focus and turn well, but its clear Ferreus can do it. I am pretty sure I have seen him play a sin and looked fine to me. Though I have never played sin so no idea really but I reckon he would still hold his own regardless. He knows his stuff and ppl should focus on the tips he can give about the actual match and not focus on the clicking. Give deception and concealment a try with clicking. You can't turn fast enough to get behind someone, especially if you're fighting another melee who knows what they are doing. Furreus knows a bit about watching objectives and playing a ranged. But the video didn't show him helplessly scrabbling and dying to a concealment op 1v1 because he couldn't turn around fast enough to keep his back away from the enemy in between stuns. Clicking is good enough for what he does in regular team play with a solid team, but in 4v4 and ranked, you really need to be a better duelist. (And I agree: TOR is not an e sport or anything - lol) Example: I bet that healer that saved him 20 different times is a keybinder. If anything, this video is all about how an amazing key binding healer can carry av average clicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOULCASTER Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Stop. Really. Your overzealous threads are plaguing the forums with misconceptions that will lead to the detriment of the confused and seeking advice. These passive-aggressive remarks and cancerous clicking videos are in no way helpful to PvP, the community, you, or anyone else. Much the fact that a visibly grown man like yourself is throwing a temper tantrum because someone had a different opinion -- Newsflash, not everyone is going to agree with you. Really. Stop. Please. ^ This was honestly well spoken. Very solid post sir. I had a response typed out, but this above is better and more constructive than what I originally was writing. His regstar clicking videos will be sorely missed when he unsubs soon. He leaves behind an impressive 3+ year streak of not having a single accomplishment or achievement in the rated pvp scene in swtor. Edited March 23, 2015 by SOULCASTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimboi Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Dear God man, Please shave that neckbeard. Sincerely, All of humankind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couver Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I am pretty sure I have seen him play a sin and looked fine to me.Hatred. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derzelaz Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Am I the only one that's bothered by the lack of Cooldown Text ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hei_Atzfel Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Am I the only one that's bothered by the lack of Cooldown Text ? No. How people can play without knowing the exact amount of time before they can use certain abilities is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Give deception and concealment a try with clicking. You can't turn fast enough to get behind someone, especially if you're fighting another melee who knows what they are doing. Furreus knows a bit about watching objectives and playing a ranged. But the video didn't show him helplessly scrabbling and dying to a concealment op 1v1 because he couldn't turn around fast enough to keep his back away from the enemy in between stuns. Clicking is good enough for what he does in regular team play with a solid team, but in 4v4 and ranked, you really need to be a better duelist. (And I agree: TOR is not an e sport or anything - lol) Example: I bet that healer that saved him 20 different times is a keybinder. If anything, this video is all about how an amazing key binding healer can carry av average clicker. I don't think ops need the back anymore for backblast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haystak Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I don't think ops need the back anymore for backblast. Ruffian/Lethality Gets a reaplacement ability that removes the back requirment. Concealment/Scrapper still has it though. And its only 90 degrees now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midianlord Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I don't give a rat's backside what you do or don't know about driving. it's an analogy. it's figurative language. you can pick apart any analogy ever made because they compare two unlike things. It's a bad analogy, is my point. And not the only one such in this thread, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snave Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 The REAL guide to clicking. https://youtu.be/B7nSfvIxokw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DethlaHadyn Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 The REAL guide to clicking. https://youtu.be/B7nSfvIxokw lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midianlord Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) What an utterly pathetic joke: That people get this childishly toxic and sanctimonious over what may well be the most casual-focussed, non-competitive, and carefree MMO out there, and how people they don't actually know and will almost certainly never even see in the real world play it... Stay classy, you archetypical cliché'ed totally generic, un-memorable, mainstream MMO community. Stay classy! Edited March 24, 2015 by midianlord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAxe Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) I think this whole debacle is pathetic.... Cause swtor is so hard that you only win at the game if you're a keybinder... Thats such a pathetic thing to say. There are many mmo's where you should be a keybinder, no doubt. Hell, even the melee classes of swtor should keybind. But if someone cant perform equally good as keybinder and clicker on a swtor ranged class, then that person must be handicapped... Melee classes have such low gbcs, you need to keybind so you dont waste any time and make the best out of your skills and timing. Ranged classes have such a large gbc you can click each ability and still take a bite of your donut inbetween each click... and still perform as good as the keybinders. (You must have offgbc stuff keybound, thats a must tho, but other than that...) Take this debate to another game where this is actually a problem.. Edited March 24, 2015 by DanAxe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 It's a bad analogy, is my point. And not the only one such in this thread, either. no. it works just fine. emergency brake on while driving = hinderance to moving forward. clicking = hinderance to good game play. sorry you don't like it, but it's patently obvious. if you need an explanation, clicking prevents activation of multiple abilities at the same time, including (first and foremost) mouse turning, which is easily the quickest way to turn. so anyone who's clicking could always be moving faster...just like driving with the brakes on. I'm sorry you're some automobile aficionado who wants to argue the finer points of ebrake mechanics. that's beyond the scope of the analogy and has nothing to do with how analogies work. they're matters of taste. it didn't work for you. fine. don't tell me it didn't work -- for me -- when I say it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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