GrandLordMenace Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) I have finished my research, be sure to let me know what you think Sorry, been a bit busy. It's interesting how close the DPS spread really truly is. I'll look at it more when I have the chance. Edited June 21, 2015 by GrandLordMenace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Sorry, been a bit busy. It's interesting how close the DPS spread really truly is. I'll look at it more when I have the chance. Cheers I should have probably added when i said power augment build that this is a variation on your alacrity build where I used 2 power augments, 3acc augments and 9 alacrity ones , with 2 enhancements.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Cheers I should have probably added when i said power augment build that this is a variation on your alacrity build where I used 2 power augments, 3acc augments and 9 alacrity ones , with 2 enhancements.. Interesting. I'm considering an alternate alacrity build modeled after my PVP build that drops one surge enhancement for another alacrity enhancement, then compensates with two mainstat augments Surge would still be around 65% Edited June 22, 2015 by GrandLordMenace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmSlash Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) This probably isn't the place to post something like this but I'm doing it anyway. I'm a Vigi Guardian and I'm struggling to parse over 4.7, with 4.7 being my current best parse. All other parses are in the 4.4-4.6 area. I don't really know if this is a gear thing or if my rotation is messed up somehow (or if I'm just stupid and doing something totally wrong), so I'd just like some help, if possible. Here's my 4700 parse: Blaaah My opener here is also rather unorthodox..forgive that. I've done some comparing with the other top parses and I've noticed my crit % is lucky high even in this parse. My stats: Unstimmed | With stim Currently running 12 alac augs, 1 acc aug, and 1 strength (for some reason). 244 crit rating, 490 surge, 624 alac, 745 acc. Gear: Full 192 armorings, 204 MH, 198 OH. 4 lettered mods of varying levels. Missing 1 Acc/Power 198 (192 atm) Any advice is welcome. Thanks! Edited June 23, 2015 by lmSlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 This probably isn't the place to post something like this but I'm doing it anyway. I'm a Vigi Guardian and I'm struggling to parse over 4.7, with 4.7 being my current best parse. All other parses are in the 4.4-4.6 area. I don't really know if this is a gear thing or if my rotation is messed up somehow (or if I'm just stupid and doing something totally wrong), so I'd just like some help, if possible. Here's my 4700 parse: Blaaah My opener here is also rather unorthodox..forgive that. I've done some comparing with the other top parses and I've noticed my crit % is lucky high even in this parse. My stats: Unstimmed | With stim Currently running 12 alac augs, 1 acc aug, and 1 strength (for some reason). 244 crit rating, 490 surge, 624 alac, 745 acc. Gear: Full 192 armorings, 204 MH, 198 OH. 4 lettered mods of varying levels. Missing 1 Acc/Power 198 (192 atm) Any advice is welcome. Thanks! Can you give me the specific cooldowns on all of your abilities? My best bet is that you are PROBABLY delaying your dots slightly too much. Also, with a 204 mainhand you should be doing around a 4.9 if not a 5k. Lemme know your exact stats and we can work from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Can you give me the specific cooldowns on all of your abilities? My best bet is that you are PROBABLY delaying your dots slightly too much. Also, with a 204 mainhand you should be doing around a 4.9 if not a 5k. Lemme know your exact stats and we can work from there. I agree with ryd. 5k is doable for sure on a 204 MH and your operen isn't that bad, it is what i personally use for bosses requiring a high opening burst. But would be handy to see your exact numbers gearwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmSlash Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Can you give me the specific cooldowns on all of your abilities?. Overhead - 8.4sec Plasma - 11.2 sec Blade Storm - 8.4sec Sundering - 11.2sec MasterStrike- 16.8sec (2.79 sec channel) SaberThrow - 23.3sec Dispatch - 9.3sec I'll read through the guide and run some more parses. :/ Wish AMR was still a thing, I'd make something up for you. 244 crit rating, 490 surge, 624 alac, 745 acc, 3819PriStat (stim), 1700 power 24.21% Melee %, 24.61 Force %, 72.48% surge, 7.37% alac PriDamage- 2099 - 2543 Melee Bonus damage- 1212.5 Force Bonus damage - 1933.5 Maybe you were just looking for the CDs..but I gave you everything anyway! Edited June 23, 2015 by lmSlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Overhead - 8.4sec Plasma - 11.2 sec Blade Storm - 8.4sec Sundering - 11.2sec MasterStrike- 16.8sec (2.79 sec channel) SaberThrow - 23.3sec Dispatch - 9.3sec I'll read through the guide and run some more parses. :/ Wish AMR was still a thing, I'd make something up for you. 244 crit rating, 490 surge, 624 alac, 745 acc, 3819PriStat (stim) 24.21% Melee %, 24.61 Force %, 72.48% surge, 7.37% alac PriDamage- 2099 - 2543 Force Bonus damage - 1933.5 Maybe you were just looking for the CDs..but I gave you everything anyway! What i find interesting is that you used 12 dispatches, do you use it more then just on proc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmSlash Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) What i find interesting is that you used 12 dispatches, do you use it more then just on proc ? With this parse I used Dispatch 12 times w/ 11 Keening procs. I believe the 12th Dispatch was used w/o proc to finish off the dummy. Don't really know what I did there. Edited June 23, 2015 by lmSlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Juggernaut guide is almost up, I swear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBloomberg Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 ahhhh, I miss playing my jugg, been away from the game for awhile, should be back soon, I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordbadtamaru Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 What i find interesting is that you used 12 dispatches, do you use it more then just on proc ? Saster, I looked at your parse and found something interesting You don't seem to prioritize ravage/dots, at least not in the same way everyone else does. I notice you use a LOT more Vengeful Slam/ Vig thrust, more than any other player. I find that curious. You use Vengeful Slam every 12 seconds, I average every 25-30. You seem to delay overhead slash and blade storm a lot more as well. Not saying one of us is wrong, we could be both right, but I'm curious, do you have a reasoning for it? I'd expect the increased vig thrust would counteract or exceed the damage lost by DoT delays, and I'm tempted to see if maybe you've stumbled upon something insanely great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanro Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Can we get some more info on Alacrity vs Strength/Power Augs? It is very vague. i've heard people are switching, but I am not gonna waste all the gold unless its worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Saster, I looked at your parse and found something interesting You don't seem to prioritize ravage/dots, at least not in the same way everyone else does. I notice you use a LOT more Vengeful Slam/ Vig thrust, more than any other player. I find that curious. You use Vengeful Slam every 12 seconds, I average every 25-30. You seem to delay overhead slash and blade storm a lot more as well. Not saying one of us is wrong, we could be both right, but I'm curious, do you have a reasoning for it? I'd expect the increased vig thrust would counteract or exceed the damage lost by DoT delays, and I'm tempted to see if maybe you've stumbled upon something insanely great. You have a very fair point i will do some research because in all honesty the rotation i use is so much muscle memory but you are right i do use vigilant thrust allot more, my DoT's seem to be up 95% of the time (plasma brand) 60%(burning purpose,OS DoT) and 59%-65%(DoT blade storm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Also i have taken a bet with a guildy, I will do a 100mil parse with armor debuff. i assume it will take me around 20h. No date for it yet but when i am ready for it i will be streaming this for the people interested XD Edited July 6, 2015 by darreknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvai Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Also i have taken a bet with a guildy, I will do a 100mil parse with armor debuff. i assume it will take me around 20h. No date for it yet but when i am ready for it i will be streaming this for the people interested XD More like 8-9 if you manage to average at least 4.5k dps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 More like 8-9 if you manage to average at least 4.5k dps I should be averaging that but yeah i am considering my mh will break about midway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Can we get some more info on Alacrity vs Strength/Power Augs? It is very vague. i've heard people are switching, but I am not gonna waste all the gold unless its worth it. well the use of alacrity augments is roughly a gain of about 200 dps, seems to preform in practically any fight also with no down side what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordbadtamaru Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) well the use of alacrity augments is roughly a gain of about 200 dps, seems to preform in practically any fight also with no down side what so ever. I don't think it's that exact, the top TOP end I think it matches or slightly exceeds mainstat, but averages DEFINITELY go up, and in many fights alacrity makes things a lot easier (Torque, for one), and Sword Squadron (not that it's difficult). when I started running it back in the day I went from a 4620 to a 4760 in about an hour, so yes it is an increase, the magnitude is dependent on the player. Edited July 7, 2015 by lordbadtamaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordbadtamaru Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Also, Relevant. It's interesting to say the least, for dummy parsing anyway. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8298262#post8298262 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Also, Relevant. It's interesting to say the least, for dummy parsing anyway. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8298262#post8298262 the crit numbers there are on the very low side though, which kinda suprises me for jugg/guardian that is Edited July 8, 2015 by darreknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 Back in home sweet home. Anyway, I'll echo what my alter ego said and I do think the Crit Numbers are low. His relic calculations are also extremely fishy, and many of my guildies have tested his other builds and haven't seen good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Back in home sweet home. Anyway, I'll echo what my alter ego said and I do think the Crit Numbers are low. His relic calculations are also extremely fishy, and many of my guildies have tested his other builds and haven't seen good results. Very very dodgy, well i did the guardian build test on the pts and was quite disappointed will try a variation with more crit to see if it might be handy but atm i am swearing with my build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Very very dodgy, well i did the guardian build test on the pts and was quite disappointed will try a variation with more crit to see if it might be handy but atm i am swearing with my build he adjusted for more alacrity, so I'm sticking with mine as well. They are close enough and I feel comfortable with my build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darreknight Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) hehe alway room for change , i am still hunting the stat holy grail Edited July 12, 2015 by darreknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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