EvenHardNiner Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 http://dulfy.net/2014/10/22/swtor-architects-stronghold-pack-preview/#Weapons No one in their right mind would buy these abominations. I have not seen one person use a single one of these ugly weapons. Stop using them as filler material and design something nice please. These weapons go for 100 credits on the GTN because no one in the entire game thinks they look good. 250cc? No wonder the price has gone down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItachiZaku Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Oh yes, because EVERYONE agrees with you, right? Everyone? Kidding, yeah, I don't... I mean, i wish we could vendor them. I sold a few from the last pack for 48 credits. /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman_snow Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 http://dulfy.net/2014/10/22/swtor-architects-stronghold-pack-preview/#Weapons No one in their right mind would buy these abominations. I have not seen one person use a single one of these ugly weapons. Stop using them as filler material and design something nice please. These weapons go for 100 credits on the GTN because no one in the entire game thinks they look good. 250cc? No wonder the price has gone down. What presumption. Ok, -you- don't like them. That doesn't mean -everyone- agrees with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Natoorat Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Weapon designs are tied to a single shipment. This is a last pack of the "Stronghold" series, so next pack will be the first of a new shipment, and thus will have different weapons. Happy(ier)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomla Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 What presumption. Ok, -you- don't like them. That doesn't mean -everyone- agrees with you. It's a fair assumption though. They go on the GTN for between 50 to a couple of hundred credits. I do a lot of PvP as well as running around levelling and have yet to see a single person using antique socorro weapons. There are hordes of them on the GTN that don't seem to be selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cernow Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 What presumption. Ok, -you- don't like them. That doesn't mean -everyone- agrees with you. I think the GTN speaks loudly here. It's the best barometer of what is popular and what isn't. Lately the GTN is flooded with Socorro weapons and Cybernetic armour. When things are listed at 50 or 100 credits and still don't sell, I think it's fair to say the majority of players don't like them. The problem seems to be that the contents of packs are mapped out several months in advance. They go with a theme for a Shipment and then revise / reskin it over the next 3 or 4 packs. So if they design a range of stuff so fugly that no-one wants it, you know it's going to be flooding the GTN for months to come. Because it's a grab bag system, rather than direct sales, it allows them to fill up the grab bags with junk no-one much wants as they hunt for the stuff they do want. If the contents of these packs were sold directly via the CM they'd realize that some designs just don't sell and would need to try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borderlad Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 http://dulfy.net/2014/10/22/swtor-architects-stronghold-pack-preview/#Weapons No one in their right mind would buy these abominations. I have not seen one person use a single one of these ugly weapons. Stop using them as filler material and design something nice please. These weapons go for 100 credits on the GTN because no one in the entire game thinks they look good. 250cc? No wonder the price has gone down. I can't speak for everyone in the game, but I don't like them either. I would rather equip cardboard tubes than the Socorro weapons. On the other hand, in any given MMO, there are lots and lots of things. Not everything in the game has to match my personal aesthetic preferences. These simply become items I don't use. On the other-other hand, I'm not fond of having items I would never use be part of package deals costing CC's. Definitely makes the package less appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzel Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I also do not presume to speak for anyone else but yeah... I think they are pretty terrible IMHO. I get that this is thousands of years before ANH but there is very little in the game that looks Star Warsy to me. I am disappointed in the gear in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keypek Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 They are god awful, ugly. Can't wait to be done with them in this series. Can barely give them away most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khantalas Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I actually like the pistol for my Powertech, and wish I could equip my Mercenary with the assault cannon. The rest? Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foambreaker Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 http://dulfy.net/2014/10/22/swtor-architects-stronghold-pack-preview/#Weapons No one in their right mind would buy these abominations. I have not seen one person use a single one of these ugly weapons. Stop using them as filler material and design something nice please. These weapons go for 100 credits on the GTN because no one in the entire game thinks they look good. 250cc? No wonder the price has gone down. I use the pistols on my merc. Pretty amazing you would think the whole world likes and dislikes the same art as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomla Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I use the pistols on my merc. Pretty amazing you would think the whole world likes and dislikes the same art as you. As a few of us have already said, the GTN speaks volumes on this one. It's flooded with socorro and cyborg armour that people are struggling to give away. They are listed from 50 credits onwards and they don;t seem to be selling. You can come here and say you sell them by the hundreds and all your guild and everyone you know uses them but i'm as likely to believe that as I would someone telling me clouds float over singing The Only Way Is Up by Yazz & The Plastic Population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savej Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Ordinarily I would agree with a condemnation of the use of "everyone agrees with me" as a position, even when used in hyperbole. But in this case I have to agree with the op - I would just add one qualification: "everyone <with any taste whatsoever> hates this weapon set" in its entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 As others have said, each Shipment has its own weapon series, and yesterday's is the last pack for this Shipment. I used one of the pistols for my Merc - but yeah, on the whole I think they're pretty ugly (especially compared to the Interstellar Regulator series of weapons from the Starfighter packs). I also think the fact that they are very, very common drops in the packs (plus the packs themselves probably being bought in higher volume than past shipments due to the lower price) contributes in a big way to how cheap they are on the GTN. But at the end of the day, while ridiculously high supply is probably the largest factor in these prices, I don't think we'd have pages and pages of them selling for less than 100 creds if demand wasn't pretty darn low as well. Here's hoping the Shadow Packs have more interesting weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfyde Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 The ranged weapons are not my cup of tea either, and I think the GTN flooding with the weapons (and the cybernetic armour for that matter) is indeed a good indication of them not being very popular. I actually do like the texture on the lightsabers though, and would have used the saberstaff one if it didn't look like a riot baton when hanging from my character's belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashadk Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 The Cybernetic Armor is the far greater joke to me. Those continued abominations must stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinak Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 One really has to wonder what the art team is thinking when they design something that ugly at think it ok to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 One really has to wonder what the art team is thinking when they design something that ugly at think it ok to sell. Ugly to you but certainly not ugly to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanagosTsok Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) As a few of us have already said, the GTN speaks volumes on this one. It's flooded with socorro and cyborg armour that people are struggling to give away. They are listed from 50 credits onwards and they don;t seem to be selling. You can come here and say you sell them by the hundreds and all your guild and everyone you know uses them but i'm as likely to believe that as I would someone telling me clouds float over singing The Only Way Is Up by Yazz & The Plastic Population. Even if the GTN speaks volumes on the matter, have you maybe considered the fact that these weapons have flooded the market because they had flooded the packs in the first place? I mean even if ppl liked them, dropping in the hundreads, wouldn't help in their popularity. I don't like them either(except maybe the cannon) and i know they are not very popular. All i'm saying is to not disregard the opposite opinion so easily. It's not just a matter of demand, it's also a matter of excessive supply. Edited November 5, 2014 by PanagosTsok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLowlife Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I think "fugly" describes it best.... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuriDogshin Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) One really has to wonder what the art team is thinking when they design something that ugly at think it ok to sell. Any cartel pack with one ultra-desirable ultra-rare item (rancor, Shan armor, and so on) seems to sell well, regardless of how much ugly garbage it drops. That's not unusual behavior: for example, people keep buying lotto tickets, even though they lose money, on average, on every ticket they buy. Hope betrays them. If that's the case, BW need only pay one decent artist a competitive salary to design the gems, and can have interns and homeless drunks designing the rest for pizza and cheap beer. Picture that ... Edited November 5, 2014 by BuriDogshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transcendent Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 The problem seems to be that the contents of packs are mapped out several months in advance. They go with a theme for a Shipment and then revise / reskin it over the next 3 or 4 packs. So if they design a range of stuff so fugly that no-one wants it, you know it's going to be flooding the GTN for months to come. Now if they had released it with varying pirate looking armours, they probably would have fared better as a weapon design choice. No pirate looking armours though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLowlife Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 ....BW need only pay one decent artist a competitive salary to design the gems, and can have interns and homeless drunks designing the rest for pizza and cheap beer. Picture that ... You mean that's NOT what they do? Could have fooled me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabakla Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Socorro weapons looks like "something" you would find inside a toilet ... You all know it is true... you all have had this image in your minds... please let the next design weapons come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deewe Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) The Cybernetic Armor is the far greater joke to me. Those continued abominations must stop. ^ this. And yes the Socorro as so much appreciated that I don't even sell them on the GTN anymore. I just trash them when I open a pack, as I do with the cybernetic armors. Edited November 5, 2014 by Deewe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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