Thurinor Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yeh, right. I lose 50 million to scammers, cs puts me on hold for a week and then, at the end, i get threats about getting banned if I will persist asking for help in this issue. Please, Eric. :l 50 million? As in 50,000,000 or should it be 50,000,000.00 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNahash Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 good god... the crazies actually managed to get the devs to put out a response over this utter non-issue meanwhile, actual issues remain unanswered. Not that I blame Musco. He's doing his job. Some people in this community seem unable to do anything without someone holding their hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVitrial Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Thank you Mr Musco. Here are the suggestions so far...I see them as QoL changes that would be nice to have. If you see any you think might be relevant and wish to pass them on, I appreciate it. 1) The ability to ignore a character name on the GTN, so the items sold by that character are not shown in searches. 2) The ability to place a red flag on sellers you do not like, green flag on ones you prefer, and a sort function to move red flags to the bottom of a search, green flags to the top. Only you would see the flags you apply. 3) Remove the ability for the system to display fractional currency. 4) Have the formatting right justified instead of left justified. 5) Have the ignore list also apply to the GTN. 6) Change total price to price per unit, or just add a price per unit option for posting items for sale. Any of them would be welcome changes IMO. I would personally love to see the ability to price per unit when placing a sale, and having a flag system so I could flag sellers based on how I rate them...for my eyes only. The flag with a sort function would be very convenient. I think these are all amazing ideas (though I'd consider flags less useful than all the other ideas you suggested, personally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 This would be a great QoL change in general, regardless of whether or not BW chooses to do anything to "fix" this "issue." I agree. I would love to have that option. Would make it far easier to judge the price I am posting at compared to others on the market. Right now I have to do math which hurts my brain tissue......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackNader Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hey folks, For us, it would be impossible to tell if a user was posting an item at a higher value to try to "scam" another user, or simply because that is what they want to sell it for. -eric Rubbish. At least be honest in your response. What you really mean to say is that the guys at Bioware can't be bothered allocating resources to police the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) 50 million? As in 50,000,000 or should it be 50,000,000.00 ?? 50 million credits. That's how much I lost and got no aid. :l Regarding gtn thing - it's stupid to use the decimals if we can't even see them in our inventory. Edited November 10, 2014 by Alec_Fortescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagikFingerz Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Eric, thank you for echoing what we sane people have been saying all along. Hopefully this is the end of these pointless threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I think these are all amazing ideas (though I'd consider flags less useful than all the other ideas you suggested, personally). Fair enough. Certainly they are not required or "needed" changes, but some of them would be nice. I just included all of them I have seen in the multiple threads for the sake of disclosure. I personally support the flag and "price per unit" posting method myself, but the flag is less important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNahash Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 50 million credits. That's how much I lost and got no aid. :l Regarding gtn thing - it's stupid to use the decimals if we can't even see them in our inventory. Watch what you're buying then. Your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachenko_Yuri Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yeh, right. I lose 50 million (3 months of work! LOL) to scammers, cs puts me on hold for a week and then, at the end, i get threats about getting banned if I will persist asking for help in this issue. Please, Eric. :l One, would... would.... and again.. would, guess there that's something wrong with a type of mat listed at 50 mills ( even a stack of MMGs). Then again, considering what's going on, this has become one BIg " would ".... dayum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmdrShpd Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 As has been suggested by others (most recently LordArtemis), it would be great if sellers could be allowed to input a price-per-unit that they wish to sell their goods at. This price could then be rounded to the nearest whole number when the items are actually made available for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronV Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Displaying fractional currency does not provide accurate data. No more than claiming displaying the whole price and standing against the adoption of price per unit is a fight for accurate data display. The argument is just as ridiculous now as it was then. You are still presented with accurate data. Fractional currency is not used by the game or the player. It's display is not required for ANY reason. Sure it does. I can list a group of 3 items for 14k credits. Thats results in a price per unit of 4666.666... credits which is shown as 4666.67 credits. Removing the fractional price would necessitate either: -forcing sellers to list a per unit value (severely limiting the ability to give bulk discounts and causing undercutting to become more severe) -rounding up or rounding down the per unit value providing a less accurate display (especially over larger volume sales) -removing the display of price per unit alltogether which is horrible and makes bargain hunting harder People need to just learn how to read properly and to sort the price by lowest first (or price per unit b y lowest first). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurinor Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 50 million credits. That's how much I lost and got no aid. :l Regarding gtn thing - it's stupid to use the decimals if we can't even see them in our inventory. You in the market for a bridge by any chance? I happen to have one for sale. PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimvinny Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 50 million credits. That's how much I lost and got no aid. :l Regarding gtn thing - it's stupid to use the decimals if we can't even see them in our inventory. That's sucks. It really does. But you have no one to blame but yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronV Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Its a good QoL improvement if sellers had the option of inputting a price per unit, as long as it is not mandatory to only use price per unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I called it, I so freaking called it! Hehe... it won't stop the threads though... just make them more hyperbolic in all likelihood. Why? Because it's not the answer those complaining want to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) It's the correct answer. Player stupidity is not something bioware can fix. Buyer OR seller foolishness to be accurate. But essentially this is correct. I told you people nothing would be done and it's not a scam. With that in mind, I am going to pass these issues back to the dev team and see if there is anything we can work towards in the future for the GTN to help alleviate these issues. Thanks everyone! -eric Your right Reno, it's not a scam, but your not correct in the contention that nothing will be done. EM clearly states that he will pass it on to see if something can be done. So there is a chance some change can be made. Edited November 10, 2014 by LordArtemis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankyn Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 The only realistic solution to the problem (since you can't actually fix stupid) is to remove the decimals from price listings and have them automatically round up so that 5,000.25 just reads as 5,001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Its a good QoL improvement if sellers had the option of inputting a price per unit, as long as it is not mandatory to only use price per unit. I agree. I think it would be the best change of the entire list, and would improve the GTN. Not a required change, nor would it protect buyers or sellers, but it would be convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLowlife Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Hey folks, There has been a lot of chatter this weekend in General Discussion around how players are posting on the GTN, specifically around use of decimals/commas, and whether we feel it is an exploit or not. For starters, we definitely don't want to see any players scammed out of their hard earned credits and we will work to stop those situations wherever possible. Unfortunately, this is not one of those scenarios. What someone is doing in this scenario is posting something at a higher value than the market would typically have that item listed for. For us, it would be impossible to tell if a user was posting an item at a higher value to try to "scam" another user, or simply because that is what they want to sell it for. When purchasing items on the GTN, aside from the initial sorting and purchase we also have a secondary window pop-up as confirmation of sale. If you feel you are at risk of buying something off of the GTN at an intended value, take your time! Make sure to read over exactly what they are selling it for and then double check that number when you receive the pop-up. Also, we highly recommend using the sorting functions for both total and unit prices to make sure you are paying what you want. With that in mind, I am going to pass these issues back to the dev team and see if there is anything we can work towards in the future for the GTN to help alleviate these issues. Thanks everyone! -eric The End..... Edited November 10, 2014 by ImmortalLowlife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmdrShpd Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Your right Reno, it's not a scam, but your not correct in the contention that nothing will be done. EM clearly states that he will pass it on to see if something can be done. So there is a chance some change can be made. And if they're going to make a change, it would be nice if it was a change that could benefit a lot of people--not just the folks who...*cough*....seem to have difficulty paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotharofxev Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 And people say WoW is "dumbed down". Holy schnikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) WOW! its perfectly okay for pvpers to trick/trap/exploit people into flagging so that they can gank them, but people paying the price for their own carelessness or stupidity on the GTN is a big no-no and the devs need to fix the UI? Yup! The UI I have no control over - it is what it is. Sloppy playing and not paying attention to the target is totally on the player. Also...a mistake that flags me for PvP doesn't end up costing me millions of credits...just a few minutes. Edited November 10, 2014 by TUXs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsKNives Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 A response that destroys their argument and finally ends a pointless debate, and in the end the devs response was the same as most of the rest, PAY ATTENTION. I'd like to point out that nowhere did they comment on whether or not these were scams. They said that they would be unable to tell the difference, or in other terms a waste of CS time, not that none are scams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yeh, right. I lose 50 million (3 months of work!) to scammers, cs puts me on hold for a week and then, at the end, i get threats about getting banned if I will persist asking for help in this issue. Please, Eric. :l How the heck did you manage to lose 50 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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