Heal-To-Full Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 The whole point of Black-Black dye is its rarity. It's not a particularly pretty shade of black, most armors look better in two colors... but what it does have going for it is rarity. They made it cost twice as much as the other dye for a reason. Black-Black goes for 3+ million on the GTN on some servers. If it were something reasonable like 300 coins... admit it, how many of those complaining would be buying it just to sell it in-game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScruffyWhite Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 So it costst twice as much for a single use dye module than rothc? rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heal-To-Full Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 So it costst twice as much for a single use dye module than rothc? rofl I've seen very few level 50's in 61-63 gear around, which anyone without RotHC would quickly earn. Or even if we count whatever rare f2ps that can't get the AEA... just no 50's in all-50 blues. This means everyone and their dog have RotHC. Zero exclusivity. For Black-Black dye, think more along the lines of VIP Wristband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatile Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 This means everyone and their dog have RotHC. Zero exclusivity. It's an expansion, of course everyone has it. But seriously, $20 is £12/£13 at the moment - that's madness. As in, mind-bogglingly short-sighted and money grubbing. Who thought that was a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadoken Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 That's actually cheaper than the typical market conversion prices I see (100cc = 100k credits). Not terribly surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberAllthing Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Saw this coming a mile away...first people were ************ that it was unobtainable, now they ***** because it cost too much. If it were too cheap they would ***** about it not being rare enough (rare is what it is designed to be). Bottom line is that you have multiple ways to obtain it. Or you can choose NOT TO. No one has you over a barrel forcing you to spend your cartel coins or your in-game credits.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-IceHawk- Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 It's only $10.00 guys... I mean $20.00. :sy_auction::sy_auction: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I hope Bioware sells a bunch of them tbh. I agree that the price is absurd, I just hope a lotta people with $ to blow disagree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inflicktion Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 That's actually cheaper than the typical market conversion prices I see (100cc = 100k credits). Not terribly surprising. Yep seems a little questionable at first but once you look at the math it's a better deal than what's already available; especially considering you can buy it straight-up. This will probably even lower the price of it on the GTN as well, or at least make it more consistent. The dye system probably needs some sort of overhaul in general, but this isn't anymore outrageous than what's already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelael Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Wait till they're on sale? Really, if they were 5 bucks, I'd bet more people would spring for them and BW/EA would make more money through sheer quantity through perceived accessibility. However if they are trying to match the price in game of direct CC conversion to credits at a current going rate - if anything they're cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfa Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I think any dye sold from the CM directly should be added to collections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizen Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Normally I'd open with the phrase "I'd hate to say it." or something rather, but even I have to agree that paying $20 bucks for a single dye that cannot even be reused is damn insulting. It's moves like this that keep people at odds with how much involvement they want to continue to have with the game, which is quite stupid when you think about it really, but still has a semi serious effect. Also.. It keeps people hating the CM and rightfully so.. . There are better ways to handle rarity. However that would intell make it reusable. They want people to pay $20 bucks for a dye? Well then it had damn-well better be reusable at the players discretion. Not trade-able, Not something to be sold on the GTN after some ridiculously long bound timer either. But bound to the toon it was purchased on at that time. It keeps it rare while making it worth while and worthy of considering spending $20 on it. The people in charge of the CM really need to get it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desolaytore Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I think they meant $20 for a 20 pack of dyes right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I notice that lots of folks are complaining about the current price, but do not want to offer suggestions for alternate prices or setups. So here is what I suggest...I will create a list of suggestions from folks on what they think the price should be and/or whether or not it should be part of a collection. Here is my suggestion Suggestion 1: Keep at it's current price but make it collectable, or reduce the price of the b/b and w/w by 50 percent. If you guys would like to offer specific suggestions on how this should be handled, I will add it to the list so we can all discuss the different options and see if we can come to a consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeniceNera Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Was just browsing the forums and... LOL BioWare would make more money simply putting black/black, white/white, pink/purple, etc on the CM for CC instead of hiding it in gambling packs. Charge 2100 CC for a black/black, and watch the profits zoom in. http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=6673687&postcount=16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryanseven Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 20 bucks is a little steep but at least it isn't gambling pack ripoff where you could spend $20 and MAYBE get the dye you want. It would be nice if they added it to collections though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizen Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I notice that lots of folks are complaining about the current price, but do not want to offer suggestions for alternate prices or setups. So here is what I suggest...I will create a list of suggestions from folks on what they think the price should be and/or whether or not it should be part of a collection. Here is my suggestion Suggestion 1: Keep at it's current price but make it collectable, or reduce the price of the b/b and w/w by 50 percent. If you guys would like to offer specific suggestions on how this should be handled, I will add it to the list so we can all discuss the different options and see if we can come to a consensus. You clearly didn't read my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elminster_cs Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Leave stupid people to continue buying packs, more and more packs, so i can buy them for credit, so they have more money and we see more content. It works fine. If a guy is so stupid to pay 20 bucks for a single use dye... leave it pay, more money to them, more content to us. End of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatile Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Here is my suggestion Suggestion 1: Keep at it's current price but make it collectable, or reduce the price of the b/b and w/w by 50 percent. Personally I'd say reduce it to 350CC (the price of one of the multi-packs of stuff) and keep it as a one use. Make another one at 700CC that's reusable. Have that as a benchmark for making rare/popular dyes in the future, with popular dyes being cheaper than the "rare" dyes. Add more colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 You clearly didn't read my post. What does my post have anything to do with reading your post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHobbit Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 well they could also be doing a bait and switch, start off at 2000 CC let us fume and rant, then "lower" the price to say 1000 CC the original price they wanted,If they offered it at 1000 CC we would complain,this way they can say we "heard" your and adjusted the price, we feel like we won, they laugh all the way to the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalfenix Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hmmm, why instead if giving only 1 USE, they give us a pack, like, 2 or 3? even with the price as it is, the rarity will be mantained, and I would look better the price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) Personally I'd say reduce it to 350CC (the price of one of the multi-packs of stuff) and keep it as a one use. Make another one at 700CC that's reusable. Have that as a benchmark for making rare/popular dyes in the future, with popular dyes being cheaper than the "rare" dyes. Add more colours. Would you want both colors at that price point? Remember, black commands more interest than white IMO. Hmmm, why instead if giving only 1 USE, they give us a pack, like, 2 or 3? even with the price as it is, the rarity will be mantained, and I would look better the price tag. I will add that to the suggested change list if you would like. Edited September 4, 2013 by LordArtemis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaceen Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) I notice that lots of folks are complaining about the current price, but do not want to offer suggestions for alternate prices or setups. Suggestion 1: Keep at it's current price but make it collectable a lot of people have suggested this already Edited September 4, 2013 by oaceen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalfenix Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I will add that to the suggested change list if you would like. Oh, be my guest. Let's hope bioware take a look here at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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