Jenzali Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Why can't I look like a Jedi without gimping my stats? NOTE: I am referring to the Advanced Blue War Hero's Crystal (+41 expertise). Currently, the blue expertise schematic/crystal is the rarest in the entire game. Yes, even rarer than the Adegan crystals, any crystal from an operation, or even the crystals from the fleet vendor that was removed. The schematics were once an extremely rare drop from PvP crafting boxes, and are no longer obtainable. On some servers they are completely unobtainable because no one has the schematic. Please put it on the PvP Items vendor where its green and red counterparts are already present. Or add the classic Jedi color as a cartel market crystal, I don't care. It took a year to add classic Jedi/Sith armor and I am more than happy to wait patiently and/or dump any amount of cartel coins on this. Edited July 10, 2013 by Jenzali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPryde Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Because hundreds of Wookiee (=my substitute for troll) gave Bioware the impression, that the community only wants to have "cool" special coloring, like red/black/white/mint/rainbow/dottet, instead of just "plain blue". I sometimes believe, that I am the last Jedi, who is using a plain green color crystal on my saber. The simple and terrific solution would be: Seperate function and optic the very same way as it was done with all other items we wear. Clothes and weapons decide the looks but not at all the function. The color crystal on the weapons are the only part, where you need to take one color, cause you want a function... like expertise, when you would rather have a different color. The change could be made like this: Add a second slot to weapons for color crystal, making two of them: 1. Color crystal for stats. 2. Color crystal for appearance. If the appearance slot is empty, the stat slot will count for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzoorrzz Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) I never got what people like about dark cored sabers anyway. It's ugly. Edited July 10, 2013 by zzoorrzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hey, if you want to look cool, you have to put in some effort (also, green would undoubtedly be the iconic jedi colour since Lukes lightsaber colour was green. Sure, obi-wans was blue, but he only used it once... so for very many years the main jedi lightsaber colour was green, no blue) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I would like to see a red/black (red inside, black outside) +41 endurance crystal added to packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronV Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 The change could be made like this: Add a second slot to weapons for color crystal, making two of them: 1. Color crystal for stats. 2. Color crystal for appearance. If the appearance slot is empty, the stat slot will count for both. This is exactly how KOTOR 1 & 2 did it - and it worked great! I too prefer only lore appropriate crystals. Those black cored ones are the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronV Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 The change could be made like this: Add a second slot to weapons for color crystal, making two of them: 1. Color crystal for stats. 2. Color crystal for appearance. If the appearance slot is empty, the stat slot will count for both. This is exactly how KOTOR 1 & 2 did it - and it worked great! I too prefer only lore appropriate crystals. Those black cored ones are the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drGudo Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) /sign My Sith is using only plain red crystal and there's absolutely no way he's going to change. Screw all those fancy colors, this is Star Wars. If it were for me, i'd lock crystal colors and some outfits too (i.e. Eradicator Suit) to the proper faction... Hopefully for the most, i'll never be in the management of this game Edited July 10, 2013 by drGudo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) I don't remember it being hard to get red expertise crystal :l Sure there is someone who crafts it on the server. Edited July 10, 2013 by Alec_Fortescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 /sign My Sith is using only plain red crystal and there's absolutely no way he's going to change. Screw all those fancy colors, this is Star Wars. If it were for me, i'd lock crystal colors and some outfits too (i.e. Eradicator Suit) to the proper faction... Hopefully for the most, i'll never be in the management of this game Remember early on, colors were locked to the character alignment. It was annoying as light-leaning Sith couldn't get red crystals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch_PWnD Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Hey, if you want to look cool, you have to put in some effort (also, green would undoubtedly be the iconic jedi colour since Lukes lightsaber colour was green. Sure, obi-wans was blue, but he only used it once... so for very many years the main jedi lightsaber colour was green, no blue) Did you just completely make that up and use the word "undoubtebly"? The first TWO lightsabers seen in A New Hope were both blue: Obi-Wan's and Anakin's (the one Obi-Wan saved for Luke). And Luke uses the blue through the end of ESB (trained with Yoda, fought Vader, took out an AT-AT, etc). No one even SAW a green lightsaber until RoTJ, a full 8 years after the original. (Lucas explained that he couldn't use green in 1977 because they couldn't get it to appear correctly against the bright Tatooine desert, but technology was able to solve the problem by RoTJ.) If you were a kid when RoTJ came out, THEN saw the other 2 movies I could understand your perception. But I still wouldn't use the word "undoubtebly" Edited July 10, 2013 by Primarch_PWnD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenzali Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) I don't remember it being hard to get red expertise crystal :l Sure there is someone who crafts it on the server. Red and green expertise crystals are both available for 500 WZ commendations on the PvP vendor. On the other hand, blue expertise crystals are not available anywhere. Edited July 10, 2013 by Jenzali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateKrucible Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (Lucas explained that he couldn't use green in 1977 because they couldn't get it to appear correctly against the bright Tatooine desert, but technology was able to solve the problem by RoTJ.) " I do believe you've got this fact backasswards. The Green one was used in ROTJ because it showed up better against the blue Tatooine sky during the fight on Jabba's barge. It was the blue one that caused problems. Anyway - sabres ahould be blue, green and red for sith - all else is fan fiction (purple included). I may make allowances for yellow. Seems a natural progression. That is all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Did you just completely make that up and use the word "undoubtebly"? The first TWO lightsabers seen in A New Hope were both blue: Obi-Wan's and Anakin's (the one Obi-Wan saved for Luke). And Luke uses the blue through the end of ESB (trained with Yoda, fought Vader, took out an AT-AT, etc). No one even SAW a green lightsaber until RoTJ, a full 8 years after the original. (Lucas explained that he couldn't use green in 1977 because they couldn't get it to appear correctly against the bright Tatooine desert, but technology was able to solve the problem by RoTJ.) If you were a kid when RoTJ came out, THEN saw the other 2 movies I could understand your perception. But I still wouldn't use the word "undoubtebly" Actually Its blue when he uses it in Obi-wans hut for the first time. Then its green (well it WAS in the original) when he is on the falcon (later "corrected" in colour by GL to blue), Then it was blue again on bespin. Cant say what colour it is when he enters the cave on dagobah since i cant find it online and i have the movies at work But yeah, it was apparantly both green and blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Just as an aside, purple is a canon color. Anything in the six movies is considered whats called G-Canon (movies, direct novelizations of the movies, radio plays and George Lucas statements) and can not be questioned. Everything else is either rated as lesser included Canon, which includes, in order... T-Canon (television shows Star Wars The Clone Wars and the upcoming Star Wars live-action TV series) C-canon (EU including games and books based on that information) S-Canon (SWG, SWTOR and certain stories based on these games) The final category is N-canon or non-canon. Stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label, crossover appearances (Star Wars character appearances in Soulcalibur IV, for instance), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon. N-canon is the only level that is not considered official by Lucasfilm. Note that a significant amount of material that was previously C-canon was rendered N-canon by the release of Episodes I–III. So there you go. Purple lightsabers are considered G-Canon. Edited July 10, 2013 by LordArtemis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenzali Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Bump, thanks for the very good looking gold crystals that became available today. Good to see the devs are returning to lore-appropriate colors. However, please make blue crystals obtainable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Blue lightsabers are for old men who live in the desert, training skinny sons of Sith with Dorthy Hamill haircuts. Real Jedi use purple crystals, like Mace Windu. BASIC, NERF HERDER, DO YOU SPEAK IT? YES, THEY DESERVED TO DIE, AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN MUSTAFAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suntaru Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Why can't I look like a Jedi without gimping my stats? NOTE: I am referring to the Advanced Blue War Hero's Crystal (+41 expertise). Currently, the blue expertise schematic/crystal is the rarest in the entire game. Yes, even rarer than the Adegan crystals, any crystal from an operation, or even the crystals from the fleet vendor that was removed. The schematics were once an extremely rare drop from PvP crafting boxes, and are no longer obtainable. On some servers they are completely unobtainable because no one has the schematic. Please put it on the PvP Items vendor where its green and red counterparts are already present. Or add the classic Jedi color as a cartel market crystal, I don't care. It took a year to add classic Jedi/Sith armor and I am more than happy to wait patiently and/or dump any amount of cartel coins on this. If I had the Recipe, I would make you one. Free of charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLowlife Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Blue lightsabers are for old men who live in the desert, training skinny sons of Sith with Dorthy Hamill haircuts. Real Jedi use purple crystals, like Mace Windu. BASIC, NERF HERDER, DO YOU SPEAK IT? YES, THEY DESERVED TO DIE, AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN MUSTAFAR! ROFLMAO! #knowhatumtalmbout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Purple is actually my favourite colour in RL. If it wasn't then I wouldn't care about it in-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Just as an aside, purple is a canon color. Anything in the six movies is considered whats called G-Canon (movies, direct novelizations of the movies, radio plays and George Lucas statements) and can not be questioned. Everything else is either rated as lesser included Canon, which includes, in order... T-Canon (television shows Star Wars The Clone Wars and the upcoming Star Wars live-action TV series) C-canon (EU including games and books based on that information) S-Canon (SWG, SWTOR and certain stories based on these games) The final category is N-canon or non-canon. Stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label, crossover appearances (Star Wars character appearances in Soulcalibur IV, for instance), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon. N-canon is the only level that is not considered official by Lucasfilm. Note that a significant amount of material that was previously C-canon was rendered N-canon by the release of Episodes I–III. So there you go. Purple lightsabers are considered G-Canon. ^This. If you've seen the color in the movies, I'd call it cannon. My SW stuck with a Red Color crystal for a long time, until it got to the point that it was just better to switch it out for the +41 Power Crystal obtained from the CM. My SI is better off with her non-red (uses Purple) crystal as she purposely bucks the trend and takes every anti-Empire option she can (she was a slave! I really don't see why she wouldn't want to cause the downfall of the Empire). Both my JK and JC use purple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-IceHawk- Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Just as an aside, purple is a canon color. Anything in the six movies is considered whats called G-Canon (movies, direct novelizations of the movies, radio plays and George Lucas statements) and can not be questioned. Everything else is either rated as lesser included Canon, which includes, in order... T-Canon (television shows Star Wars The Clone Wars and the upcoming Star Wars live-action TV series) C-canon (EU including games and books based on that information) S-Canon (SWG, SWTOR and certain stories based on these games) The final category is N-canon or non-canon. Stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label, crossover appearances (Star Wars character appearances in Soulcalibur IV, for instance), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon. N-canon is the only level that is not considered official by Lucasfilm. Note that a significant amount of material that was previously C-canon was rendered N-canon by the release of Episodes I–III. So there you go. Purple lightsabers are considered G-Canon. Immense props for the person who understands the LFL Canon policy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries_cz Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Immense props for the person who understands the LFL Canon policy! Immense props for using google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hessen Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) It's ridiculously hard work just to be a classic looking Jedi with a classic looking Padawan. That goes for outfit, colour, weapon, lightsaber colour. And even then there are so few options available. Edited July 13, 2013 by Hessen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadeseeker Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) I never got what people like about dark cored sabers anyway. It's ugly. With all due respect that is your opinion, I find a black cored lightsaber a good choice for someone embraces the dark-side heavily. (on a side note my "pure blood sith" SI uses a purple black core with the Gree event lightsaber, which gives it a purple lighting effect that is noticeable with the black core) Edited July 13, 2013 by Fadeseeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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