Individual Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Those boxes are worthless. People are better off letting the rich kids buy the boxes and just spending the in-game credits on the items once they hit the GTN. I'm not going to spend real money on a "chance" to get something cool. I would spend a little real money on some of the items if they were in the Cartel Market. I think Bioware has this all mixed up... Just my opinion though i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvik Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Those boxes are worthless. People are better off letting the rich kids buy the boxes and just spending the in-game credits on the items once they hit the GTN. I'm not going to spend real money on a "chance" to get something cool. I would spend a little real money on some of the items if they were in the Cartel Market. I think Bioware has this all mixed up... Just my opinion though i guess. I agree too. No reason to spend real life money for those boxes at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNahash Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Those boxes are worthless. People are better off letting the rich kids buy the boxes and just spending the in-game credits on the items once they hit the GTN. I'm not going to spend real money on a "chance" to get something cool. I would spend a little real money on some of the items if they were in the Cartel Market. I think Bioware has this all mixed up... Just my opinion though i guess. The obvious answer seems to be "then don't gamble". I don't either. What's the point of this thread though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeSaberRattler Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I will say that you have your choice which is what is great I completely understand that you will not be buying any of the boxes. There are however people that have the opposite opinion that will buy the boxes. That said as long as there is interest you will continue to see more boxes. Everything is a choice you may choose not to buy the boxes but some other items in the store so there is something for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipfeed Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) All the stuff in the boxes should be available from the market for direct purchase. Make the gambling box cost less than it would cost to just buy the stuff, and you will still sell gambling box's. For instance, if a cartel pack is 350 and has a chance to drop 2 ultra, 3 rare, and 2 common items, put the ultra's, like white crystals up for 900 CC, the rares up for 400 cc and the commons up for 200 cc This way, if im feeling lucky, I can buy a pack and have a chance to get a discount on what I want, but if I just want to get a specific item and im willing to potentially pay extra for it, I can do that too. They would make more money over all with this, but would make less money per person, so I highly doubt they will ever have the foresight to do it. We have company's calculating profit margins on virtual items that are essentially cost free once they are created. In other words, they calculate how much they are making per white crystal by the number of cartel packs purchased versus the number dropped and base their future plans on that. Because they are mobile skin bags of meat and derp. Edited December 14, 2012 by Slipfeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuixupu Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The more people buy the boxes, the more they will focus on them. Don't buy the boxes. Unfortunately probably most people are buying them. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevelandboy Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Those boxes are worthless. People are better off letting the rich kids buy the boxes and just spending the in-game credits on the items once they hit the GTN. I'm not going to spend real money on a "chance" to get something cool. I would spend a little real money on some of the items if they were in the Cartel Market. I think Bioware has this all mixed up... Just my opinion though i guess. Then dont buy the packs and get what you want of the GTN. No one is making you buy the packs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikHar Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Then dont buy the packs and get what you want of the GTN. No one is making you buy the packs Why some of you people always have to come in to say "then don't do this or don't do that, no one is forcing you" is beyond reason. You fail to see the OP's reasoning. Edited December 14, 2012 by RikHar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAskham Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Why some of you people always have to come in to say "then don't do this or don't do that, no one is forcing you" is beyond reason. You fail to see the OP's reasoning. Not to mention some of us don't care about the crap in the boxes at all, we just want fresh and compelling content to be added to the subscriber game...and when we see the numbers of impulsive purchasers buying loads of these boxes, we worry that they are contributing to the future downfall of this game as EA runs the numbers and figures they can cut development staff further and make more money simply re-skinning crap, stuffing it inside lottery boxes, and selling it to schmucks who have no idea they are being fleeced for all they are worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlcslc Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 This thread is pointless. Don't tell me how to have fun. I buy cartel boxes because I'm not poor and it's fun; which incidentally is why I play this game. I swear poor people ruin everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorkTrooper Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Then don't buy the cartel boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 MMO Lockboxes make a lot of money. That's why publishers do it and its why they aren't going away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgonKara Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I bought one just to see what all the fuss is about, I wasn't impressed. I'd much rather have actual content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlcslc Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 What poor complainers fail to realize is that the cartel boxes pay for devs to create content for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboB Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) What complainers fail to realize is that the cartel boxes pay for devs to create content for everyone. Shush! This is the General Discussion crowd here- we only post reactionary responses, and react emotionally to every issue put forth to us! Please take "thinking" like that to the Community forums, or something! Edited December 14, 2012 by AboB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radzkie Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Not sure where this poor people thing is coming from. It's possible for someone to dislike the gambling aspect even if they have money. Not like gambling =/= being poor. But I like the cartel boxes myself. I hate getting crap but it's exciting when I get something I actually want. It's what I spend most of my CC on. Although I think it's a good idea to have the boxes contents for sale, so that those who don't like gambling have another way of getting them besides the GTN. Also, I want to buy that new meditation chair. Edited December 14, 2012 by Radzkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoofa Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If the rare and ultra-rare items were available separately in the market, two things would happen: Those with disposable income who are buying a "hell o a lotta" boxes at the moment (read some of the threads and in-game chat to see just how many) will instead buy just the items they want. Massive drop in income. The rare and ultra-rare items certainly would no longer be as everyone would just own them So there are two reasons I can see that the items should not be sold separately. And as has been said before, if you don't like the gamble don't take it. Sit back and wait for the item you actually want to appear on the GTN and buy it there, for no real money cost. If the cartel items were important to the point where an advantage could be had then yer, items should go on sale to all. As they aren't and are just cosmetic, then there is no need. Once "new" rare and ultra-rare items suddenly start becoming popular things are just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicKat Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 What poor complainers fail to realize is that the cartel boxes pay for devs to create content for everyone. You know, there is a reason that lotteries are called "The Stupid Tax". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AboB Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) You know, there is a reason that lotteries are called "The Stupid Tax". You mean to tell me that I've been incorrectly paying the government for all of these years!? Excuse me, I have more to say, but I've just had an overwhelming urge to see what electricity tastes like. Straight from the socket, kinda like fresh apples! *bzzzt* Edited December 14, 2012 by AboB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banegio Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Damion: Almost every conceivable metric is better for us and for you guys playing the game. We had expectations for what we thought this would do and so far it has blown away all of them. That just means good things for the team and for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElitehunterDS Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Buy the boxes on the GTN or the content from other people, win/win scenario for everyone. Edited December 14, 2012 by ElitehunterDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire-Wolf Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 What poor complainers fail to realize is that the cartel boxes pay for devs to create content for everyone. Or, you know, they could let us buy the items we want outright and use that money to help fund the game. As it is, the cartel market is getting none of my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulpp Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Those boxes are worthless. People are better off letting the rich kids buy the boxes and just spending the in-game credits on the items once they hit the GTN. I'm not going to spend real money on a "chance" to get something cool. I would spend a little real money on some of the items if they were in the Cartel Market. I think Bioware has this all mixed up... Just my opinion though i guess. You kinda just answered the reasoning behind it all... EA can either: - get most subscribers to spend a little real money on extra items. There is a cap on profit vs. content. - get some subscribers to spend lots on extra items by including a random factor. There is no cap on profit vs. content. Increases percieved value of items as well. Cleary EA, and history, has shown that there is more profit from the 2nd option. You could always get a 2nd job if you are really interested in these items. /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackardin Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Those boxes are worthless. People are better off letting the rich kids buy the boxes and just spending the in-game credits on the items once they hit the GTN. I'm not going to spend real money on a "chance" to get something cool. I would spend a little real money on some of the items if they were in the Cartel Market. I think Bioware has this all mixed up... Just my opinion though i guess. Then do it. Why does it bother you that others may buy them? In fact, their buying them is what allows you do get them off the GTN so, in a manner of speaking, they are helping you. Why would you be angry at them for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackardin Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Or, you know, they could let us buy the items we want outright and use that money to help fund the game. As it is, the cartel market is getting none of my money. This would be a better idea, more so then just complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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