I've been on these forums since beta, people have been predicting the game will shut down in a matter of months since then.

I'm sure it depends on what kind of player you are. I'm not a soloer. I push to max level as fast as possible and do group content. Really don't have any interest in anything else. From my perspective, the thing that I was disappointed with in WoD was that there was fewer dungeons than usual. Doing group finder around level 98-100 you were stuck doing mostly Skyreach over and over and over. And they didn't really make new exclusive hard modes either. I miss them doing that in swtor too. Older people with families tend to play differently though. We used to play for hours on end through to morning doing the most mundane things like just wander around exploring or killing the same group of mobs over and over just to get rep. We don't have the time energy to do that anymore. We don't have the money to spend on multiple accounts. It's more play a little here, let someone else play a little there, unsub when nothing's going on, move over to another f2p MMO in the meantime.

WoD wasn't a bad expansion. Most people agree that WotLK was the best, and none of the subsequent ones have lived up to it, whether it's fan nostalgia or just the fact that the game isn't getting any younger and neither are its players. I think they've all been equally fun and somewhat disappointing in some aspects. The current MMO model is certainly on the decline - personally, I don't think we're going to have the next big thing until technology steps up a bit more. VR will probably be the real new frontier in RPG gaming, and we need internet that is able to handle large amounts of graphical data lag-free.

Yeah, as a matter of fact, when they launched the game they were expecting 500,000 subs max. They had no idea it would be the most successful MMO by far for 10 years and probably beyond.

I just upgraded from windows 7 to 10 and haven't had any issues with swtor.

People just don't have the time and loyalty to just stay subbed when there's no more planned content, now that the player base is older and there are a ton of other MMO and multiplayer options out there.. They said they're done releasing content until the next expansion, which currently has no release date. Still, 5.6 million subscriptions is quite a lot of steady money coming in. Most likely that once the new xpac is released, it'll jump back up to 8-9 million.

I don't think a single Cantina Q&A has ever revealed anything significant at any point, not sure why anyone expects that to change.

Early access player still here. I have never canceled my subscription, though I did take a break from playing.

I grew up with an Atari 2600 until the NES came out. I loved the old coin-op games in arcades, of course. I miss those.

Hehe, yeah I wish.

This makes me feel nostalgic. Almost makes me want sections of Soa's floor to randomly disappear after a wipe and to be unluckily dropped on top of a pile of static balls that were chasing me down before being picked up. (that was probably 1.1 or something I don't remember)

Nautolans and Devaronians I'd say Bothans, but only if they can make them look different enough from Cathar.

Even if they said "starting 3 months from now", anyone who transferred before today would still be in the same boat. Had they announced this a month prior, there would still be people who just happened to transfer just prior to the announcement. So I don't see any point to this complaint.

I'm only confused about what is confusing some people. I haven't seen anything to indicate old content was being removed. What quotes are people getting this from?

https://torcommunity.com/ is getting a lot of nice updates.

lol. Aw, that's sad. I recall Charles was tweeting about recording sessions with new and old VA back in March, I assume it was for this. I just want to know if my character is still going to talk and sound the same. Because there's never a guarantee with that forever.

Has anyone asked whether all the class and companion voice actors are returning? One of the things that concern me is that they'll be downsizing in that department to streamline things.

If there's one thing that we can count on, it's continual doomsaying from AshenK. He'll be subbed to the bitter end.

Hey, if there is even just a couple of instances of companions talking during cutscenes, it's an improvement over Makeb.

Yeah, different. I'd give it an 8/10. Whereas I'd give season 2 a 5/10 in comparison. Yes, the Robin Hood episode was kind of lame, though fun (typical Gatiss episode) and the science aspect of Kill the Moon was goofy, and I could easily forget about "In The Forest of the Night", but then, remember, as I listed before, Love and Monsters? The Idiot's Lantern? Fear Her? They're all worse than ANY of the episodes in season 8. Also, Curse of the Black Spot, Silver Nemesis, half of season 1 and 3, The Sontaran Strategy/Poison Sky, Planet of the Dead, The Beast Below, etc.. all poop....Doctor Who always has poop! At least for someone. Maybe you thought those were all great. Then I divert back to people just have different opinions. I know people that think this is their favorite season ever, and some that think it's absolutely the worst. Some articles out there really did a poor job in quoting Moffat, with click bait titles. He actually said that ratings haven't dropped, just that *overnights* are down slightly, while the overall reach including timeshifts are much higher, and iplayer downloads don't even factor in that, which are increasing each season as well (compare a few hundred thousand in 2005 to nearly 2 million now). Another complicated statistic to add in is that they currently don't track computer/mobile/tablet devices, which are actually the majority of devices used for iplayer. TL;DL, the ratings have remained remarkably consistent for a 10 year old show, and we're seeing a shift in the way people watch TV in general. Less people watch live, more people DVR and download. Ratings in worldwide markets such a the US and AUS are also increasing. Here is a breakdown of the ratings for the season, if you're curious. But anyway, I have my issues with Moffat's writing, and some of the direction of the show in general. There are things I really want to see change. But IMO this season was a step in the right direction in many ways.

This here is an example of Blizzard doing something right.

I'm not whitewashing it so much as just accepting that it's unlikely that Doctor Who will suddenly deliver on a level that it never has in 51 years. Seasons are up and down, some crap, some gold, with varying degrees. You just hope the gold will outweigh the crap. I think that was true of season 8, and I can't say that about every season. I am tired of Clara who as well, but not nearly as tired as I was of Rose Who. Glad that only lasted two seasons. Oh wait, the Doctor spent the whole next season missing her, than she came back the next season again.

Yes, no doubt they borrowed a LOT from other games...but they did it well. And I am actually really enjoying the expansion more than the last two as well. Having your character be more at the center of the story helps. The new cut scenes are pretty epic too. That's something they've definitely come a long way with! Though I have to say that one of the things that has made me the most happy is the inventory improvement. The reagent bank, the toy collection, better stacking, bag cleanup/instant organization button (they had addons for the last one, but the less addons I have to get the better). They also implemented group loot last xpac, which was one of those things swtor had that I was like, "why the hell do other MMOs not do this".

That's a good example of an individual having a different opinion. Also an example of someone who has to insult others to make a point, which is lame. Funny! It sounds like they borrowed the bonus objective quest idea too.