Maxil Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) (branched off from the conference call thread here) Looking at the top earners for EA, and their stated interest during the conference call in moving towards cash shops in all their games, it's obvious they are banking hard on the microtransaction route. The last couple NHL and Madden games were built around that team building mode where you have to buy player packs which expire unless you buy more packs to keep them going, and if FIFA hasn't yet I'm sure it will be the focus of it this year. BF3 went microtransactions in that you could buy weapon and vehicle unlocks, basically cutting out the need to 'grind' at all. Unfamiliar with need for speed, but anyone who touched the sims 3 knows about the store as it's in your face any time you want to launch the game and the upcoming simcity will likely have a similar structure. Which left me thinking when I went to bed last night, again what kind of microtransactions might come into swtor. Mounts really jumped into mind first, but after that (and perhaps vanity oranges, but we already have social) I drew somewhat of a blank. Maybe crafting ingredients? 99c for 10 lvl6 artifact mats? Legacy unlocks for real cash instead of credits? Maybe you can buy "rested bonus" to increase leveling rate? IF Microtransactions are brought into The Old Republic, what do you want to see in the store? What do you not want to see in the store? Edited May 8, 2012 by Maxil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balrizangor Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 if SWTOR goes pay to win, I'll be done with the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanorDM Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 IMO the only thing they should offer is cosmetic/fluff things. Like pets, different colored versions of existing armor, like say black Jedi robes, red Sith robes, ect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theology Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I'd rather them fix the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiaa Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I won't even give a game chance that has MTs and a sub fee. This is why I didn't preorder The Secret World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blistrich Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) This is why I didn't preorder The Secret World. You mean the fact that Funcom made it isn't the reason you didn't preorder it? Edited May 8, 2012 by Blistrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I don't mind MT, as long the game has then ne longer also a sub and the MT isn't promoting pay to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WereMops Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 IF Microtransactions are brought into The Old Republic, what do you want to see in the store? What do you not want to see in the store? If they implement microtransactions then the only things I'd like to see in it is purely cosmetic things that still would be possible to acquire ingame, anything else and they'd better offer an exit door for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agemnon Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Mostly crafting schematics, materials, credits, mods, stuff that gives you more experience per kill, and stuff that increases a specific stat by 1 for $2.00 US, so if you want to raise, say, endurance by 50 it'd set you back $100 though content would and should still be balanced around non-microtransaction stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnie Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 if they go by LOTRO's model... an option to turn off advertisements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasticles Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Won't do it. I'll un-sub immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blistrich Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) F2P usually means you have to pay for the following... 1) Access to all premium content (No sub? Limited access to PvE and PvP content) 2) Priority server access 3) More character slots 4) Shared bank slots 5) Cosmetic items (new appearance options, speeders, pets, companion cosmetics) 6) Premium crafting recipes (schematics) 7) Unlimited credits (No sub? Your total wealth is capped) Just a guess based on the LOTRO F2P model, which, when it was introduced, effectively saved the game and has increased overall subscriptions. The same model has also proved successful for DDO. Won't do it. I'll un-sub immediately. Typical response from someone who doesn't understand what F2P actually means. Edited May 8, 2012 by Blistrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlaine Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Great opportunity to get rid of the overused bind on pickup raid or die model. Forget microtransactions. Create a currency exchange for player to player transactions, make the game a treasure hunting game ala Diablo, and watch the money come rolling in. Not to mention a huge spike in subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptwonline Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hopefully any microtransactions will be to buy convenience and things that are fun, not for power gains. Bigger backpacks. More bank vault space. More character slots. Faster travel. Maybe a different personal ship design. Hmm...how about solo/smaller group versions of operations or even flashpoints? Maybe additional companions or personality changes for companions. Cosmetic items like speeders and gear. Ideally they wouldn't have MT and instead would release new pay-for content packs on a much more frequent basis instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutus Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I love Star Wars, and you could call me a fanboy of this game.... but if it goes F2P (P2W), I'm most likely done too. I much prefer the subscription model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavensAgent Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I love Star Wars, and you could call me a fanboy of this game.... but if it goes F2P (P2W), I'm most likely done too. I much prefer the subscription model.The OP doesn't even mention F2P ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnie Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 F2P usually means you have to pay for the following... 1) Access to all premium content (No sub? Limited access to PvE and PvP content) 2) Priority server access 3) More character slots 4) Shared bank slots 5) Cosmetic items (new appearance options, speeders, pets, companion cosmetics) 6) Premium crafting recipes (schematics) 7) Unlimited credits (No sub? Your total wealth is capped) Just a guess based on the LOTRO F2P model, which, when it was introduced, effectively saved the game and has increased overall subscriptions. The same model has also proved successful for DDO. Typical response from someone who doesn't understand what F2P actually means. actually, the LOTRO model is not the 'typical' f2p model. most f2p models include gear, potions that are far superiour to what you find in-game, mounts/pets that do stuff the in-games don't and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blistrich Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) I much prefer the subscription model. Why? Seriously, explain. Is it because a sub game feels more "successful"? I challenge anyone here to show me how the LOTRO F2P model is either "play to win" or failed to improve the game. actually, the LOTRO model is not the 'typical' f2p model. most f2p models include gear, potions that are far superiour to what you find in-game, mounts/pets that do stuff the in-games don't and so on And it uses microtransactions in an excellent way. Not all F2P or microtransaction models are identical. Some are fantastic. Some suck. This game has neither kind yet. Edited May 8, 2012 by Blistrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnie Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) Why? Seriously, explain. Is it because a sub game feels more "successful"? I challenge anyone here to show me how the LOTRO F2P model is either "play to win" or failed to improve the game. how exactly .did. it improve the game if I may ask? most player still have a subscription anyway. Edited May 8, 2012 by amnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blistrich Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) how exactly .did. it improve the game if I may ask? most player still have a subscription anyway. It brought in the option for players to experience the game without a sub, and then to choose their level of monetary involvement, which prompted more F2P players to subscribe to specific features. Edited May 8, 2012 by Blistrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 The OP doesn't even mention F2P ... I honestly haven't given it much thought, and would initially think they would try a cash shop stage before ditching the sub model completely, but I wouldn't put it past EA as F2P is also an interest to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanorDM Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I challenge anyone here to show me how the LOTRO F2P model is either "play to win" or failed to improve the game. I'll back this up. LotRO is one of the few games out there that IMO did it right. But LotRO isn't really a true F2P game either, you can still sign up for a $15/month sub and not have to buy a single thing from the turbine shop. Plus you get free points each month to buy the stuff you do want, like items for the appearance tab, quick travel stuff, or even buy a mount as early as lvl 5 I think. There's little question that going the hybrid F2P/Sub model that LotRO did, has done a lot of good for the game, and they've produced more content since then they did in the year or so prior to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blistrich Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 There's little question that going the hybrid F2P/Sub model that LotRO did, has done a lot of good for the game, and they've produced more content since then they did in the year or so prior to that. Bingo. Increased interest. Increased microtransaction involvement. Increased content delivery. Hybrid microtransations, when done right, are a powerful tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavensAgent Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hybrid microtransations, when done right, are a powerful tool.This is true, but to be done right items available in the market must have no mechanical impact on the game. As soon as they do the game shifts from a hybrid model to P2W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayneDancer Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Mostly crafting schematics, materials, credits, mods, stuff that gives you more experience per kill, and stuff that increases a specific stat by 1 for $2.00 US, so if you want to raise, say, endurance by 50 it'd set you back $100 though content would and should still be balanced around non-microtransaction stats. Will immediately quit the game if any of these "wants" are ever added to the game via MTs. Will also immediately quit the game the moment it goes F2P. /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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