Goretzu Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I feel bad for you. My wife and I have only reached Tattooine with our shadow - scoundrel team and we already are at social 3. Maybe you could ask a guildmate to start a new character and play it exclusively with yours. You could even ask someone in the forum. I did that in another mmo and it worked quite well. That's because it's actually "anti-social fixed group points". I've no idea why they called them "social points" when the whole system isn't designed for anyone to play socially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tal-N Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I grouped with my wife all the way from level 10 to level 45. Considering that we both only played those characters together we should have hit social 5 a long time ago. Instead I'm still social 3 and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessirin Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I just don't see how doing and finishing an 8/16 man raid is less "social" than talking to a mob in BT with 2 people. They should flat out give an amount of social points for raiders and 8v8 pvpers come ranked. (Sorry solo queue isn't socializing, most people who solo queue don't even play as a team) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezla Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 What's really sad is that it is much easier to clear all NM Operations than get Social V. This should not be the case at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naduronx Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) Reaching rank X is easy. Take a guildy or a newbie to Esseles. 2 Players = 100pts 3 Players = 130pts 4 Players = 180pts Clearing it with mounts = 10-13min Clearing it with lowbies = 15-20min Doing it for 1 hour with 4 players = 1080pts After 9 Hours = 9k pts (Max rank) If you do it the whole day with 4 players so can you reach max rank on a single day. Edited March 31, 2012 by Naduronx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaubeeEiko Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I have been fortunate enough to run with a static group on 1 toon since launch. We did all the quests, heroics and flashpoints all the way thru 50. Doing so got me(us) to social 8. Ran the dailies solo, duo and a group of 4 at times got me to social 9. Great social gain if ran with a full group. I ran out of gas doing dailies and went from social 9 to 10 running the Esseles a few times. Lovin the Galactic Party Bomb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokkus Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I feel this is partly to blame on the lack of conversation in the flashpoints (except the first one). Most of them dont have conversation and only one DS/LS choice unrelated to the story. I still wonder why they did not make the other flashpoint more like the Esseles. Did they figure we wouldnt want any more story in FP's? Thats strange because its a story driven MMO. Is it laziness? I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessirin Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I feel this is partly to blame on the lack of conversation in the flashpoints (except the first one). Most of them dont have conversation and only one DS/LS choice unrelated to the story. I still wonder why they did not make the other flashpoint more like the Esseles. Did they figure we wouldnt want any more story in FP's? Thats strange because its a story driven MMO. Is it laziness? I hope not. Their statement, if I recall correctly, was that they wanted a split between "story" fps and non-story fps for different player demographics (those who want to see the story and those who want to faceroll for loot). So far its BT/FE/Kaon for story and the rest for face pilates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymaniac Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 The thing is to get a high social rank while leveling, you need to group up for literally ever yquest, solo or not. Or at least group up for the conversations. Which is why people leveling together end up with more than others. For me, in a MMO, I prefer to solo the solo content and group up for the group content. Plus, there is plenty of group content I've done in the game that rewards no social points. Is finding a group for a Heoric 4 quest that comes from a mission terminal, then doing it and turning it not social? So why does that award no social points, but making a conversation choice in a conversation for a solo quest does? I wouldn't even care that much, but it really is quite aggravating to me that a lot of the planet specific social gear you get from the social vendors have higher social rank requirements. I would like to get some of that gear and wear them, but can't because the social system is weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Reaching rank X is easy. Take a guildy or a newbie to Esseles. 2 Players = 100pts 3 Players = 130pts 4 Players = 180pts Clearing it with mounts = 10-13min Clearing it with lowbies = 15-20min Doing it for 1 hour with 4 players = 1080pts After 9 Hours = 9k pts (Max rank) If you do it the whole day with 4 players so can you reach max rank on a single day. Yeah you can game the system, but wouldn't it be better to actually, you know, gain social points for playing socially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naduronx Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) Yeah you can game the system, but wouldn't it be better to actually, you know, gain social points for playing socially? So.... your in a party of 4 and yet it isn't "socially" according to you? I guess it's wrong with you then. While i had fun doing it with my guildies. Edited March 31, 2012 by Naduronx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwamper Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 social will go up when we start actually getting social points in hmfp. till then the system is fine. you get social for grouping, which is what its intended for. Except you often don't. There are a few 4-mans I've done that awarded less than 10 social points. IMO, every 4-man should award at least 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmpearson Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Don't worry, soon social xp will be soloable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminova Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) It was kind of silly of them to put grouping XP in a single player game. It's not a single player game...it's a MMO that has solo and group content... Edited March 31, 2012 by terminova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joneb Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) My suggestion thread which would boost social points and encourage player interaction instead of a community of soloers who join for pvp, end game raiding and as they level the occasional FP . http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=384533 Ps I know there are those who group up often but in my experience they are often real life friends or relatives, or cleeks that have played online together for a relatively long time. Edited March 31, 2012 by joneb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotlx Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Social IV leveling exclusively with my wife 1-50. A mere 20 points to Social VI with an esseles run here and there. Its not difficult, and if I applied myself I could get 2-3 levels in a day. Esseles runs until you're bored, dailies in a full group, then bonus missions while you wait for ops to start/pvp to pop. Its easy as ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joneb Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Social IV leveling exclusively with my wife 1-50. A mere 20 points to Social VI with an esseles run here and there. Its not difficult, and if I applied myself I could get 2-3 levels in a day. Esseles runs until you're bored, dailies in a full group, then bonus missions while you wait for ops to start/pvp to pop. Its easy as ****. Ps I know there are those who group up often but in my experience they are often real life friends or relatives, or cleeks that have played online together for a relatively long time. Just saying everyone has a different personal experience and some are fortunate to have levelling buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigglesXRevenge Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 should get social points for pvp queueing as a group. even if it is extremely minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediJoeK Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Make friends. Do dailies with them. Been Social V for a while now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manigma Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 should get social points for pvp queueing as a group. even if it is extremely minimal. Agreed, I could probably do a warzone in the same time I do BT as group, but honestly there is nothing of value for me in BT. If they gave you social points equivalent to losing all conversation choices on BT, I think that'd be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velassra Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 My main, a Jedi Sage, level 41, has virtually none. I've been leveling her solo. My Imperial Agent, I started a week ago to level with a pair of friends, and only at level 13 has a ton. It's disappointing because I want my main to have the points to feel complete w/ that character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkingDinosaur Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I've encountered many people on my server who are already Social X...wut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateKrucible Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 While we're at it .... can we at least get social XP for handing in Heroics? I group, do the mish ... but because the hand-ins are just "here you go ... thanx" moments with no interactiohn .... I get zero SP. Despite being, well, social, and grouping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorellianWannabe Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 It's not a single player game...it's a MMO that has solo and group content... No it's a single-player with a small amount of multiplayer content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 should get social points for pvp queueing as a group. even if it is extremely minimal. I think 1 social point per MVP would be enough, not just for the queueing (because some players just leave early instead of sticking to the group). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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