lawsonn Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 This game belongs in the massive pile of **** thats full of the other attempts ea had at making a bad mmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ravenhurst Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) You seem to be under the impression that: a) SWG Was good b) That this was ever intended to be SWG 2.0 You know what outsurvived all other MMO's? WoW. You know what you do in WoW? Click X, Kill X. Yeah. You know what wasn't a successful MMO? SWG. yawn. Guess they had the same clever argumentation during early planning meetings of TOR. being online for 8.5 years without going free to play, with a solid subscriber base, having a glorious death to sacrifice for the next "big SW MMO" which was supposed to be TOR is not exactly unsuccessful. SWG is legend. SWG is gaming history. Edited March 29, 2012 by Lord_Ravenhurst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalfear Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) yawn. Guess they had the same clever argumentation during early planning meetings of TOR. being online for 8.5 years without going free to play, with a solid subscriber base, having a glorious death to sacrifice for the next "big SW MMO" which was supposed to be TOR is not exactly unsuccessful. SWG is legend. SWG is gaming history. Woot, he changed his laughing to yawning when told SWG was bad! 70% cancellation with in first 30 days played 80% cancellation after 3 month mark! *dang we have a different opinion on solid subscriber base, hows that kopol aide tasting?* THATS SWG legend and history! Sadly looks like TOR following same patern for vastly different reasons Edited March 29, 2012 by Kalfear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubernetic Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm not sure if 10 years is reasonable because I'm not sure any MMO will ever last as long as WOW again, but if one could, SWTOR could do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ravenhurst Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 70% cancellation with in first 30 days played 80% cancellation after 3 month mark! source? yeah let's see what the numbers for TOR will be, if someone dares to publish them in 3 months from now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuzBukit Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 It "could last 10 years". My confidence in the current development team in making it last 10 years however is pretty damn close to zero right now. I think it has 1 year (8 months left of it) maybe 2 tops to begin growing the playerbase, if it hasn't at the least managed to replace lost subs in that 1 year I think BioWare & EA will start pulling the team apart for other projects & the game will go into maintained decline, with token bug squashing & content updates will dry up rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Criptic Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Only time will tell where this game goes. Personally I have no big complaints. Having played MMO's nearly 13 years now; I understand the hurdles involved. All I can say is I log in to play with friends and we have a good time. As long as good times are being had I will keep playing, or until pandas suddenly appear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Ultima Online....still has subscribers base, i dont think swtor is going anywhere. Yeah MMORPGs are pretty cheap once developed and don't need many players to keep going and turn a profit in maintenance mode. The big difference with SWTOR over UO though is that it has a SW licence. SWG wasn't ended because it wasn't still making money, it was ended because it lost it's licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Programma Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 it seems that the most common cycle is to lvl to 50 ,play pvp ,gear up ,do ops then leave.Some people stay and beat on the un geared player coming through late but get bored of that too and leave. ten years lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 You know what wasn't a successful MMO? SWG. People keep saying that, but it was the 2nd biggest western MMORPG for all time (sub-wise) for a couple of years. I think that's pretty successful. It's peak sub number aren't that impressive now (although they still aren't that terrible either), but the MMORPG world has changed an awful lot since 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpurgo Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Free to play next year, maybe even sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Woot, he changed his laughing to yawning when told SWG was bad! 70% cancellation with in first 30 days played 80% cancellation after 3 month mark! *dang we have a different opinion on solid subscriber base, hows that kopol aide tasting?* THATS SWG legend and history! Sadly looks like TOR following same patern for vastly different reasons Huh, SWG held its initial sub number (300,000 ish) for about 1.5 years (with a dip), then started a fairly steep decline that got it to 50% of its peak subs by summer 2006 (this was of course now well into WoW pomp years) and then slowly declined between then and dec 2011. I've no idea what you're talking about with those figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrjerod Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 We have Diablo 3 and GW2 - free to play .... 10 years SWTOR .... no way. This game is still alive because have [star Wars] in name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieAlteHexe Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 We have Diablo 3 and GW2 - free to play .... 10 years SWTOR .... no way. This game is still alive because have [star Wars] in name. Diablo is not going to hold my attention like an MMO would...I will certainly give it a try but it's not an "ongoing" type game for me. GW2? Not sure what I will make of it and won't be one of those buying it at release. Bit busy with SWTOR now and if I do go with something else, it'll be ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethality Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Of course not! Dont you know the world is supposed to end this year? You know the Mayans hadn't accounted for leap years, so technically December 2012 happened in July of 2011. We're safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieAlteHexe Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 You know the Mayans hadn't accounted for leap years, so technically December 2012 happened in July of 2011. We're safe! Wasn't this already debunked in another thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasgallant Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) well snooki is having her baby sometime this year.. that might end the world Edited March 29, 2012 by thomasgallant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohke Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Ive learnt something great from this TOR experiance. That is that deep story should be kept to your singleplayer games. I loved the idea of story on such scale in an mmo at first but after seeing it in practice it doesnt work. Alot of people said it wouldnt work and they were right. I do love the quest structure but it came at a cost of the rest of the game and now bioware actualy has got to build the mmo of TOR and not just a pretty story. Also i feel the quality of the story in the mmo is not that good anyway. Theres no epic moments that i remember. EA will most likely if not already delegated TOR to a skeleton crew or has plans to do so in the near future cause its quite clear to me already that TOR wont be the success EA and bioware had imagined. Of course EA will not care they probably got a good deal out of it and got all their money back. But i feel for the bioware devs as they have a rep to maintain and probably didnt recieve the majority of the sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasgallant Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Ive learnt something great from this TOR experiance. That is that deep story should be kept to your singleplayer games. I loved the idea of story on such scale in an mmo at first but after seeing it in practice it doesnt work. Alot of people said it wouldnt work and they were right. I do love the quest structure but it came at a cost of the rest of the game and now bioware actualy has got to build the mmo of TOR and not just a pretty story. Also i feel the quality of the story in the mmo is not that good anyway. Theres no epic moments that i remember. EA will most likely if not already delegated TOR to a skeleton crew or has plans to do so in the near future cause its quite clear to me already that TOR wont be the success EA and bioware had imagined. Of course EA will not care they probably got a good deal out of it and got all their money back. But i feel for the bioware devs as they have a rep to maintain and probably didnt recieve the majority of the sales. the funny thing about opinions is...well you should know the rest. personally i thought the story line worked well. i found it engaging and rather enjoyed it. I played sith warrior to 50 and working on many others. and truth be told as regarding rep..both bioware and EA have had hit and misses in the gaming industry. to say that they will **** can this game due to losing rep is kinda absurd.. I mean alot of people hate dragon age II yet they are still making expansions for it. EA has had a few misses as well. .and they are still in business.. needless to say their reps play very little in the decision to keep or can this game, except ego..and there is no room for ego when it comes to game design and production. either way this too is MY opinion...and yes..like everyone elses..it stinks too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieAlteHexe Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 the funny thing about opinions is...well you should know the rest. personally i thought the story line worked well. i found it engaging and rather enjoyed it. I played sith warrior to 50 and working on many others. and truth be told as regarding rep..both bioware and EA have had hit and misses in the gaming industry. to say that they will **** can this game due to losing rep is kinda absurd.. I mean alot of people hate dragon age II yet they are still making expansions for it. EA has had a few misses as well. .and they are still in business.. needless to say their reps play very little in the decision to keep or can this game, except ego..and there is no room for ego when it comes to game design and production. either way this too is MY opinion...and yes..like everyone elses..it stinks too... I think the story bit works out splendidly. Really enjoying it. Disguises, a bit, the "go kill x wossnames" or "find me a whatchamacallit". Plus I get a kick out of confounding my companions with responses. It's a fun game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradox Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 They have already stated they will be around for a long time, the sales and numbers dont lie...everyone likes the game.. ok not everyone. however the game has a following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_Kimmo Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) Unless the game engine gets some serious repairs in the future (more than 30 FPS in warzones with a decent setup, no freezing when opening UI windows, camera doesn't **** around when you have right click pressed down, COMBAT ANIMATIONS, etc...) I don't think so. 5 years easily, but not 10. Edited March 29, 2012 by cs_Kimmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasgallant Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Unless the game engine gets some serious repairs in the future (more than 30 FPS in warzones with a decent setup, no freezing when opening UI windows, camera doesn't **** around when you have right click pressed down, COMBAT ANIMATIONS, etc...) I don't think so. 5 years easily, but not 10. considering they are adding ui changes now its clear they know the engine has isues and are addressing them. regardless if they should have before. they are now..so ya i think 10 years will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasgallant Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Ah another doom-troll, nice to meet you. Consider the following: your opinion=/=The majority's opinion. but in his post he said his opinion was the majority...who do i believe!!! some stupid troll or someone who makes sense?!?! god this is to hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspian_Rho Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 As far as the 10 years quote goes... the only thing I see evidence of is regressing MMOs by 10 years. As far as lasting 10 years as was said before the game's release... when I was young I wanted to be an astronaut... of course you will BW... of course you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts