Diamond_Slim Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I didn't pre-order til the 9th of december. I know I won't get in til probably 11:55 pm on the 19th at this rate. In any case I will thoroughly enjoy my 5 minutes of early access! 4-5 waves/day! lol fail BTW this thread is insane! +1 and not a fail)) currently now is only early access to early access))) what fail you're seaking about, man?)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korse Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Is there a legitmate reason for NOT allowing 24/7 rolling invites? not really a computer guy...just wndering if anyone could answer thanx Only if they're actually worried about server stability. Or they do want to let people access the game in the order they pre-ordered and give them time to move to the next area before the next batch enters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire_munky Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 We Wish you a MERRY Christmas!! We Wish you a MERRY Christmas!! We Wish you a MERRY Christmas!! The key word being MERRY !!!! come on, sing along you bunch o raging nerds!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szpirglas Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 You were promised UP TO 5 days of early access. This is day 7 pre-launch. Still 2 days to go 'till your PROMISED early access. Some get more, some get less. Tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulok Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Originally Posted by Kinegos This isn't a troll, and isn't exactly QQ although there is some of that involved. I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that I've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other MMO games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is. When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, I just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big Thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing. So, EA/BW - what exactly are you afraid of? The ONLY way this should have been done is to have given ALL pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. CE customers get 7 days, SE get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an MMO franchise. At any rate, I love this game. I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason. I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobudo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 There's a sniper shooting people with arrows in the knee. This thread is expressing rage over that. I used to be a snarky-sob like you, but then somebody stole my sweetroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzardous Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 For Those who might not have received an invite if you pre-ordered in july does not mean you will get in. If you pre-ordered in July and entered your code right away then you might have got access today otherwise you all need to stop complaining it makes me sick lol Please continue with your RAGE it ammuses all of us that are patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nataell Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Do you people really think that spamming a ridiculous and immaterial message will get BW's attention? YOU ARE STILL GETTING WHAT YOU WERE PROMISED!!! 5 DAYS EGA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowangel Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I know alot of people are ticked off, but giving access based on waves, insures the game can be supported successfully. If you ever been through a MMO launch, you can tell these folks it never goes smooth. It's a tricky process and HUGE problems can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miallen Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 this is total bull **** on your part bioware your invite waves suck **** ball's it was how i came in late on your swtor beta i have a feeling same kind of bull **** will happen for early access shame on you at bioware haul your ***'s and send everyone a invite all at once including myself i'm getting tired of this **** who else agree's with me here Crushing's too good for him. First he'll spend a year in the incinerator. Year two: Cryogenic refrigeration wing. Then TEN years in the chamber I built where all the robots scream at you. THEN I'll kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modin Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Sssssh.. Bioware and EA crew are of work. - Have to wait till they return tomorrow. no they saved the last spots to their own pleasure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 The only way this should have been done is to have given all pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. Ce customers get 7 days, se get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. More people were invited today already than there were CE editions printed, and if, as they say, they are starting slow, then more people will get in tomorrow than what got in today - do you want people to wait even longer just so you, a CE owner, get to play? I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an mmo franchise. What people don't realize is that scalability is hard. Like, NP-hard. I expected half the servers to crash today. They still might tomorrow, or the day after. Sit back and enjoy the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodsAreMonsters Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 My charitable post to all the stupid people telling people A) BW didn't lie or B) we have no right to complain. 1) EGA is not two days early. They extended EGA by 2 days, because thats the average fastest ship time after they dropped the no grace period bomb. It was to try to appease the masses, NOT a gift, and the grace period thing in the first place was 100% a bold faced lie 2) Right to complain, to each their own, you of course have every right to your thoughts, but quit being ignorant and claiming theres no feasable way people are upset, thats BS, they DID lie, this IS a terrible launch, and it is in fact a launch (for all the stupid ppl who thing EGA/launch are different) 3) I would really like a yellow post to answer one question. Do they think this launch is successful and/or would they take the same approach to a future expansion? Cuz if the answer is yes to either, I'd rather just cancel my box before the 20th and go back to WoW This isn't a launch. This is a "play up to 5 (now 7) days early if you pre-oreder" early access period. Read the fine print homie. They didn't lie:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latore Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Please give us one more wave for august and NOV 12th to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonescrolls Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Just a thought BW LISTEN to your Customers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseractual Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 This is stupid. Open the servers please. Sure, just go ahead and read the back of the box that your disc came in... oh wait, you don't have that box because the game isn't out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcruelint Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Originally Posted by Kinegos This isn't a troll, and isn't exactly QQ although there is some of that involved. I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that I've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other MMO games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is. When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, I just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big Thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing. So, EA/BW - what exactly are you afraid of? The ONLY way this should have been done is to have given ALL pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. CE customers get 7 days, SE get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an MMO franchise. At any rate, I love this game. I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanJuan Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 the biggest problem with this, is for those that ordered with gamestop, or ebgames. not only do we get a lower chance of playing in early access because they emailed the codes almost a week or two later; but we also lose out almost a week of playing from launch because the vendors poor choice in shipping. So as much as i understand the point of staggering early access, why stop it so soon in the day? There is a big gap for those that have ordered with gamestop/eb games and the problem hasn't been adressed, just brushed under the rug. What most people were aiming to do, was to play as much as they could during early access, (because that much is in the hands of this company) and wait it out till launch day and their retail copy arrived. So potentially, if we have friends that are playing now, and we've ordered with gamestop, we may not be able to play with them for weeks while they're about 2-3 weeks ahead, and in an entirely different location in the game than you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neccoboy Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Originally Posted by Kinegos This isn't a troll, and isn't exactly QQ although there is some of that involved. I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that I've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other MMO games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is. When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, I just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big Thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing. So, EA/BW - what exactly are you afraid of? The ONLY way this should have been done is to have given ALL pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. CE customers get 7 days, SE get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an MMO franchise. At any rate, I love this game. I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason. I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out. Edited December 13, 2011 by Meluna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewokstastegood Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Have any of you Meatbags noticed that THIS thread has FAR exceeded 1000 posts but has not been moved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertallen Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Originally Posted by Kinegos This isn't a troll, and isn't exactly QQ although there is some of that involved. I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that I've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other MMO games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is. When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, I just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big Thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing. So, EA/BW - what exactly are you afraid of? The ONLY way this should have been done is to have given ALL pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. CE customers get 7 days, SE get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an MMO franchise. At any rate, I love this game. I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason. I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davelakos Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Damn that Kinegos guy spamming up this thread...... good point though. haha he is not spamming mate he is just so right that everyone is quoting him:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elinaz Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 bioware shower us with more glorious and larger holy waves. yeeeeeeaaaa dooo itt! Do iittt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skadu Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Originally Posted by Kinegos This isn't a troll, and isn't exactly QQ although there is some of that involved. I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that I've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other MMO games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is. When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, I just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big Thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing. So, EA/BW - what exactly are you afraid of? The ONLY way this should have been done is to have given ALL pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. CE customers get 7 days, SE get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an MMO franchise. At any rate, I love this game. I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason. I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out Edited December 13, 2011 by skadu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanlan Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 that is impressive, except for at the rate they are letting people in theres no way everyone will get in by launch day, so they will end up having to add more servers which they could have just done on day 1, this staggered access is flawed, because the majority of people from the day before will still login to play the next day so theoretically they can only invite an exponentially smaller number of people everyday, and even at the pace of invites of the first day they still can't fit everyone in in time Yes, and clearly that rate is set in stone. Give over, the 13th and 14th are bonus days to begins with. If people are going to b**** you might at least save it for the 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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