JeefTheBeef Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 First of all we were already the worst pvp tanks out there by far so speccing in that was basicly useless if a jugg or shadow tank was there. Are tank cds are a complete joke compare to what juggs have. The only 2 good specs we had for pvp was either parakeet or pyro, and now both those specs have been nerfed to the groud. To anybody who says the 6 sec cd is a good thing u obviously never played pyro R.I.P powertechs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwrtheyn Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) 100% wrong,just play iron fist build http://taugrim.com/2012/01/27/iron-fist-25-14-2-pvp-tank-spec-for-swtor-powertech-vanguard/ Edited March 18, 2012 by gwrtheyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaPeter Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 100% wrong,just play iron fist build ^^^ Jugg. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raific Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boissi Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Or just keep playing pyrotech. The 6sec cd with increased chance will just make the proc far more reliable, and thus more fun to play overall. Sure, the long proc streaks are fun now, but those times when you keep spamming and it doesn't proc, and you end up overheated, those are not so much fun. You have abilities beyond rail shot anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assaultrooper Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Or just keep playing pyrotech. The 6sec cd with increased chance will just make the proc far more reliable, and thus more fun to play overall. Sure, the long proc streaks are fun now, but those times when you keep spamming and it doesn't proc, and you end up overheated, those are not so much fun. You have abilities beyond rail shot anyway. You are wrong sire its not "far more" reliable, 15% increase on the rocket punch proc rate is hardly noticeable, the RNG is still there just in a timer now. Meaning You still will go on some fight without a single proc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredbull Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Pyrotech will still be the best spec, simply because rail shot ignores armor, it will do the same damage, and it will be a more consistent proc. I dont see the issue here, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunlaugr Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 And you think the current state of powertech is fine? The few competent powertechs I face on my server can top the damage charts more than half the time I face them. Best part is, almost all of that damage is PURE BURST which they dish out in a manner of 4,5 sec. And just to boot, they have two taunts and great defensive abilities. How very fair. Cry me a *********** river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheeleb Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 100% wrong,just play iron fist build http://taugrim.com/2012/01/27/iron-fist-25-14-2-pvp-tank-spec-for-swtor-powertech-vanguard/ ^^This ! No nerf applied to this build, actually it has been buffed slightly because riot strike doesn´t need ammo and smoke grenade (if skilled) isn´t affected by the gcd any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 You are wrong sire its not "far more" reliable, 15% increase on the rocket punch proc rate is hardly noticeable, the RNG is still there just in a timer now. Meaning You still will go on some fight without a single proc. as per other thread where you stated 10% and i asked where this number was coming from as patch notes only state "significant increase", where is this 15% now coming from?? is this direct from PTR? can anyone else actually clarify as you seem to be the only person I have seen on the forums who has actual figures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 great defensive abilities Cry me a *********** river. I would love to know of these great defensive abilities that you speak of, please do elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croza Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Powertech's tank spec is not good. But the DPS spec is awesome!! insane Burst and two CCs which cannot be broken by DMG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealAeiouy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Several classes need to be among the worst, so why not pyrotech? You want a class you don't play to take their place? That seems greedy and selfish . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwyn Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 as per other thread where you stated 10% and i asked where this number was coming from as patch notes only state "significant increase", where is this 15% now coming from???. From his butt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raific Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Anyone that needs a Damage List to justify that their class if good or not is not only ignorant but a drama-queen with self esteem issues. I have played a PT from start and be it that RS is Random or Planned, the class is STILL damn good. You want DPS, go play a Sniper and get over it. The class if fine and you Theorycrafting doom and gloom in your head then spewing it out here like its fact is just yet another silly QQ post with the same nonsense. I would still like to see a little more love in AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assaultrooper Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 as per other thread where you stated 10% and i asked where this number was coming from as patch notes only state "significant increase", where is this 15% now coming from?? is this direct from PTR? can anyone else actually clarify as you seem to be the only person I have seen on the forums who has actual figures... Lol srry I believed I had linked you the source already Well here it is, written by another PTS player so yea comes directly from the PTS: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=364427&highlight=railshot+sec Right now it is 45% chance to proc from Flame Burst, 60% chance to proc from Rocket Punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryotknife Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) pts will still be more useful in huttball than snipers or ops (possibly mercs) at least (especially if tank specced). in ald or void? the class was already borderline useless, so no change there. juggs and assassins just blow pts completely out of the water in just about every conceivable way possible (better mobility, better escape tools, better defensive abilities, better utility, same damage) pts just need a redesign more than a buff to any particular talent or ability in my opinion. the whole class is just poorly designed. Edited March 18, 2012 by Ryotknife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeefTheBeef Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 thats what im saying the only thing that made us special was pyro and parakeet and now parakeet is completely dead and pyro is gonna be a joke the whole class was about luck the change just makes it still be about luck but only every 6 secs.. fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microwavegerbil Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The change only makes powertech burst more reliable, it should go off about every 6-7 seconds. As a 50 powertech, this just makes sense and is far better game design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediKier Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Play advanced prototype. My PT is a hybrid spec, and at 50 will be 14/23/4 although that may change slightly with 1.2 (since they are getting rid of kolto vents), and I still do very well in PvP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupra Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Dunno if worst but after the changes to merc gonna be the most boring for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeefTheBeef Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 go off every 6-7 secs? what r u talking about FB 45% RP 60% in no way is this going off every 6-7 secs u can still go the full 15 secs w/o a single proc this nerf bat destroys pyrotech big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Or just keep playing pyrotech. The 6sec cd with increased chance will just make the proc far more reliable, and thus more fun to play overall. Sure, the long proc streaks are fun now, but those times when you keep spamming and it doesn't proc, and you end up overheated, those are not so much fun. You have abilities beyond rail shot anyway. The long proc streaks are why I sometimes feel obligated to play Assault. (I swap specs a lot, heh) I much prefer Tactics, and am pleased with the slow being added to Gut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainsfords Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 This build was like giving every Operatives ability the chance to recloak and set them up for a Hidden Strike. It was stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 This build was like giving every Operatives ability the chance to recloak and set them up for a Hidden Strike. It was stupid. Didn't realize railshot was a knockdown too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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