DimeStax Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Anyone ran across a hybrid shadow/assassin tank lately and think that they are more OP than Sorcs? My God they are hard to kill and they do sickening damage from range and melee. Edited February 28, 2012 by DimeStax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimra Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 You're a bit late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaberMaster Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Lol. Nope. Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimeStax Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 All specs of the Consular/Inquisitor class is broken IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) oh is it nerf assassin day today i missed the memo, i thought it was nerf sniper day i guess for WoW kids every day is "nerf the class that just killed me" day. Edited February 28, 2012 by Evuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 oh is it nerf assassin day today i missed the memo, i thought it was nerf sniper day i guess for WoW kids every day is "nerf the class that just killed me" day. They'll never nerf Snipers. All the devs play Snipers and that's why they're so incredibly overpowered. They shoot eye-lasers out of their tier gear. It's the 1-piece set bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surgin Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 You're a bit late. ^this Hybrid Shadow/Assassin build were nerfed already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoax Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 all classes but mine are op. FACT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 oh is it nerf assassin day today i missed the memo, i thought it was nerf sniper day i guess for WoW kids every day is "nerf the class that just killed me" day. ^^ Amazes me that people think Shadows are in any way, shape or form OP. Infiltration flat out sucks. Balance is semi decent, and has the survivability of a wet paper napkin. The only worthwhile spec is Kinetic, and the only worth while spec for Kinetic is 31/0/10, which is not a hybrid. Kinetic damage is not high burst, they win by outlasting their opponents. But, like you said, its always "nerf the class that just killed me" day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashgan Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I know it might be hard for certain (underaged?) players but try to research a bit in class forums before making strange posts about non-existent things. Also assassins/shadows is SWTOR's "hard mode". Consider yourself lucky you met one who doesn't suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMKSED Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 27/0/14 or 31/0/10 with Stalker gear is OP. Infiltration sucked compared to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimeStax Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 Iv met a few actually. They are very very good, and I'm not talking pre-nerf I'm talking post-nerf. I don't know if they are using a spec that no one else is using or if there is a certain gear threshold that the class needs to surpass before they become godlike, but these dudes are impossible to kill, and their burst kills me as fast as an infil specced assassin/shadow. I'm not an easy person to kill. I'm not calling for a nerf, just asking if anyone else has noticed shadows/assassins being just absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimeStax Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 27/0/14 or 31/0/10 with Stalker gear is OP. Infiltration sucked compared to it. I believe it was the 27/0/14 that was nasty. I'll have to check with a guildie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyndeta Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 27/0/14 or 31/0/10 with Stalker gear is OP. Infiltration sucked compared to it. lol I see ur trying to Nerf prestige and urself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haeso Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 27/0/14 or 31/0/10 with Stalker gear is OP. Infiltration sucked compared to it. Proptip: 31/1/9 is vastly superior. Secondary Protip: Kinetic isn't all that strong, it's just infiltration is really that ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimeStax Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) All I'm gonna say is I know what class my alt is gonna be now . If no one else sees what I saw then these guys are gonna be OP for a while. Even if it takes a higher skill level than a Sorc to play I'll still take it cause I have the skill to master it and we can rule the game for a while muhahaha. Edited February 28, 2012 by DimeStax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Iv met a few actually. They are very very good, and I'm not talking pre-nerf I'm talking post-nerf. I don't know if they are using a spec that no one else is using or if there is a certain gear threshold that the class needs to surpass before they become godlike, but these dudes are impossible to kill, and their burst kills me as fast as an infil specced assassin/shadow. I'm not an easy person to kill. I'm not calling for a nerf, just asking if anyone else has noticed shadows/assassins being just absolutely ridiculous. when played right they can be very hard to bring down. I would not say we have "burst" but with some stalker gear mixed in with the survivor you can top 200k damage in a warzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimeStax Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) when played right they can be very hard to bring down. I would not say we have "burst" but with some stalker gear mixed in with the survivor you can top 200k damage in a warzone. Oh yeah, easily. My guildie averages about 235k damage in warzones in this spec, but you also have to remember that that's mostly single-target damage and he's not dropping the kind of AOE's that Sorcs and Operatives are throwing down to give them high damage numbers. I'd say 235k single-target damage for a tank is really good. Edited February 28, 2012 by DimeStax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyannez Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) when played right they can be very hard to bring down. I would not say we have "burst" but with some stalker gear mixed in with the survivor you can top 200k damage in a warzone. First of all why would you mix survivor gear in it? And 300k is pretty much a given if you play decent and have decent gear. Darkness sins are one of the, if not the best, 1v1 class/spec in the game. I wouldn't call them OP... but yes, they are extremely strong. EDIT for the guy above: wither and darkcharge discharge.. nope no aoe at all, only single target dmg. Edited February 28, 2012 by Cyannez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gren-Aluren Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I personally seen these hybrid builds and I really think they need some changes to them. They are very difficult to take down and impossible to take down if they are protecting a healer. Tanks with that kind of DPS shouldn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimeStax Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 First of all why would you mix survivor gear in it? And 300k is pretty much a given if you play decent and have decent gear. Darkness sins are one of the, if not the best, 1v1 class/spec in the game. I wouldn't call them OP... but yes, they are extremely strong. EDIT for the guy above: wither and darkcharge discharge.. nope no aoe at all, only single target dmg. Maybe you should re-read. I said MOSTLY single target damage, as in their most damaging abilities are coming from single-target abilities not AOE abilities. Not saying they don't have any or don't use any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfVey Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Assassins are a well designed class. They don't really bully people around (innately through the class mechanics, anyway. Good players are good players regardless) but they have all the tools needed to be an effective part of a team. More classes should be like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 First of all why would you mix survivor gear in it? And 300k is pretty much a given if you play decent and have decent gear. Darkness sins are one of the, if not the best, 1v1 class/spec in the game. I wouldn't call them OP... but yes, they are extremely strong. EDIT for the guy above: wither and darkcharge discharge.. nope no aoe at all, only single target dmg. i throw in survivor gear for the set bonus 10 sec reduction on spike and 5% bonus when guarding. I have not topped 300k but i know how to play and i know what im doing. If i were to go full stalker i probably could get 300k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimeStax Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) i throw in survivor gear for the set bonus 10 sec reduction on spike and 5% bonus when guarding. I have not topped 300k but i know how to play and i know what im doing. If i were to go full stalker i probably could get 300k. Nice, my Battlemaster Gunslinger with BM gear in Sharpshooter spec had to work hard to top 300k and I'm not nearly as resilient as a tank. In Dirty Fighting spec tho I break 300k damage in warzones while watching TV and glancing over at **** on my other monitor from time to time; 420k damage is pretty normal, and over 500 if I'm actually trying. It's an AoE spec though so that's nothing amazing considering almost all my damage comes from AOEs. I 1v1ed a Shadow the other day in that tank/balance spec and he had his way with me and he didn't care if I even enjoyed it. It was pretty nasty. I also noticed a few BM Assassins in Warzones basically soloing 3-4 people at a time for several minutes. Normally I wouldn't be surprised by this considering he was a tank, but the fact that he was doing ridiculous ranged and melee damage to me the whole time was pretty amazing. It didn't matter if I knocked him back or not, his ranged attacks were as strong as his melee range ones. Edited February 28, 2012 by DimeStax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimeStax Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 I mean I know that Guardians in their Focus spec can do really good damage in PvP, but Assassins/Shadows are doing this kind of damage in tank spec. That's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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