Theology Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) Is SWTOR dying? Ques are longer and longer. So many of the good players that I levelled with never log in anymore it seems. Republic fleet on mt server used to have over 100 toons at off hours, and now its mainly 20-30. My server Helm of Garush was one of the top 5 population servers at one point. Now it seems more and more like a Ghostown. What's going on? Yes. A 2011 MMO released with less features than those of a decade ago is destined to fail. Bioware screwed the pooch folks, and you, the loyal paying customers, are supporting it. Edited April 2, 2012 by Theology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undinism Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Yes. A 2011 MMO released with less features than those of a decade ago is destined to fail. Bioware screwed the pooch folks, and you, the loyal paying customers, are supporting it. I wouldn't say it was BioWare, more that EA forced them to release the game before they wanted to. Something about Christmas sales being a big stream of income that EA wanted, bottom line. They 'know' that the early release [and the game being crap compared to the potential it has being released in 6-12 months] is better for them $$$ wise as EA have forced several games to come out way too early and be crap. I don't see EA looking to go broke any time soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueanimus Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 swtor is already dead. I personally have 6 level 50s i cant do pvp or ops with (other than a really laggy EV) because of the fps issues. When you can log on and wait in a pvp que for more than 8 hours on a weekend.. yeah the game is pretty damn dead if you ask me. 1.2 better solve a lot of problems.. if not there wont be anyone left on most of the servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameWasChanged Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 yes it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exhya Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 us server are all standar/full the game isn't dead i think everyone is just spread out on every europe servers they need to merge and close some server for the moment until more player come to the game ... there is alot of player in europe to , less than us obviously but still. this game have a realy good futur if BW take the good decisions , the game isn't perfect but who cares realy it just came out some month ago we can't cry ... the game is already so good . we need to support them and give constructive feedback to make the game even better thats all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensiblepoast Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 I know I am not going to pay to pay. (pay for a transfer to a server so i can continue to pay to play) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iboga Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Within a 1 month period I would say my server went from an average of 20-30 people per planet to less than 5... do a /who (class) and get back 10-20 people, I'd say my server has no more than 100 people on at all times... impossible to PvP or group... don't know what happened, but was gaining in population... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurmez Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 theres really not much in this game to keep you coming back, PvP is the great hook as its always different unlike grinding flashpoints and they dont have a clue on PvP are are making it worse and more irrelevent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceNova Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) done an burnt i feel the game is rather shallow after a few rerolls . canceled my sub today . got my 4 guys colimi some rakkta but in the end im like uuuuu farm daylies or ops once a week for 15 bucks n ty . fight over BMA to try an crit craft. bah i have other things to play an do thats cheaper. My story LFG any HM /ops.... Criketts server pop lower an lower fleet boredom. stunwars not un happy little disapointed i had a good time just not much to do other then re roll Edited April 2, 2012 by SpaceNova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vishos Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) sadly this game is too was to easy to get anything, u basically skipped all of Tio/Col gear in pve. i managed to clear EV HM in full champ gear. the rewards for anything are sad. even BM gear was a joke it wasn't even an upgrade. ascetically pleasing ya. but some peices were a downgrade depending on crit/ surge. server populations are low on so many servers. pvp could use some work content could use some work, bug fixes still neded. waiting to see what 1.2 brings. i play this game because im bored with wow and no other MMO interest me. Im going month to month and will just quit soon enough. dont care about changes to commandos. im just a squishier turret. ill still hit hard but that isnt enough for me. IMO should been smart like every other MMO and made actual mirror classes. Like Sorcs/sages are the same thing regardless of faction. Wow failed at it pre BC with shammans on one side and pali on other just didnt work to well. they made the same class available on both factions name it differently if youd like. would have been able spend more time refining the game and pushing out more content. instead of having to manage so many different classes. i didnt enjoy paying 15 bucks a month for a beta past the first month. looking back i woulda stayed playing wow than come here. wish i didnt give away all my gold. dont feel like mining and pvp till my eyes bleed anymore. Edited April 2, 2012 by Vishos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduardoJN Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 What we need right now is a server merge, and/or a char transfer option, ASAP. There are only a few servers with a good pop balance (Canderous Ordo, Fatman) and this is compromising the game badly, both pvp and pve content. You cant expect to have a decent experience on a ghost server, where no one shows up anymore, your fleet has only 20 ppl online.. You cant raid, you cant even make flashpoints, the world pvp encounters are dead and the pvp warzones queues takes forever. I really hope Bioware dont ignore this and keeps this "tralalala, we dont care, coming up, a new patch! " thing or this game will suffer the consequences....and they may be irreversible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaptureck Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) swtor =apb legacy sux badly, they realy worked half year for this? nothing will bring balance to a 2 side mmos like aion, wow or shaya, swtor is no diffirence, still cool kids will be playng as empire, horde, asmodians, dark goddess side. to repair this u need rearange entire republic quests stories and companions couse they are seriously boring, fun of playng republic i close to 0 compared to empire. or u need to block character creation of the side that exceed more than 10 players Edited April 13, 2012 by kaptureck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWhorible Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 The game has been out 3 months and they're giving a free month to anyone with a 50. Let's be stupid conservative and say only 1/10 of the population of the game has a 50. Let's then overestimate (imo) the population itself and say it's 2 mill active subscribers. That's 200,000 people with a 50. For simplicity's sake we'll say it's $15/month (I know it's not like that everywhere). That's $3 million bucks. That they're giving away. For free. 3 months in. Yea, I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSIlverSurfing Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 done an burnt i feel the game is rather shallow after a few rerolls . canceled my sub today . got my 4 guys colimi some rakkta but in the end im like uuuuu farm daylies or ops once a week for 15 bucks n ty . fight over BMA to try an crit craft. bah i have other things to play an do thats cheaper. My story LFG any HM /ops.... Criketts server pop lower an lower fleet boredom. stunwars not un happy little disapointed i had a good time just not much to do other then re roll I honestly feel the same as you. Especially after the BM mods fiasco. I'm just going to find something better to do with my time. I also unsubbed today. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I have a long list of things that I find "fail" about this game, but it is NOT dying. It will go on for quite some time just as lesser games than SWTOR have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrankiller Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I have a long list of things that I find "fail" about this game, but it is NOT dying. It will go on for quite some time just as lesser games than SWTOR have. Hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telaan Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 If they had coincided free character transfers along with the free month I would have most definitely stayed subbed. But the class changes in 1.2 combined with a dead server, with dead PvP, with a dead GTN.....destroyed my desire to log in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungihoujo Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 It was growing- but then they said '**** you healers, **** you sorcs, **** you operatives again' and, well... flipping off what's supposedly the most played classes is not the best way to make money, especially with nerfs that hit areas of the class that were already lower than other classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torcer Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 My server is very dead, I rarely ever see anyone in Zones, thank goodness for PvP or TOR would seem like a single player game. Server mergers and transfers are desperately needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordredz Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 If they had coincided free character transfers along with the free month I would have most definitely stayed subbed. But the class changes in 1.2 combined with a dead server, with dead PvP, with a dead GTN.....destroyed my desire to log in. Dead server k i get that, rest is just a byproduct of the first... Again im sure there working on xfers if you dont wanna hang around till then you're choice, dying this game? nah lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telaan Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Dead server k i get that, rest is just a byproduct of the first... Again im sure there working on xfers if you dont wanna hang around till then you're choice, dying this game? nah lol No WPvPEndgame that has already turned into a carrot-on-stick gear grind with nothing unique not found in other established MMOsChanges to classes for PvE balance without considering the affect on PvPFour Repetitve WZs There are a host of issues. None of them by themselves or even grouped with a couple others are game breaking. However, when tossed into the mix together and combined with dead servers is game breaking. This game is still very young. Far too young to have the number of dead servers that it does. Servers that weren't dead near launch. You're always gonna have less populated servers in MMOs, it's the nature of the beast. However, the current state of them is pathetic. Server transfers should've been a top priority for 1.2 as playing by yourself enhances the already present deficiencies in the game.....leading to losing more subs. Also, dying is subjective. As a game touted as a possible WoW killer pre-launch.....yes, it's dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathmond Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 1.2 totally fail...more people unsub or just don`t play this game. 2\3 of all servers are dead. http://beta.xfire.com/games/swtor http://www.torstatus.net/shards/eu/trends http://www.torstatus.net/shards/us/trends Who know what will happen after Diablo 3 release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinxDuff Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 After playinf GW2 in the last beta weekend I can say fro sure that once it is released PvP in ToR will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiranK Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Yes, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBuddhist Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 The game isn't dead yet, but many servers are. If they don't merge them soon, the game may not recover. It will be another Free -to-Play ghost town like warhammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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