DarthPagan Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Valor? Commendations? I'm beating my head against the wall as an Ops leader trying to tell these morons where to go and what objective to take. What do they do? Hang out at mid farming kills. I know, I know. Get in a guild that you can premade in. See, this is the problem with this game. Why is that a requirement? Why do I HAVE to do that? Dailies should not be about winning. They should be about attendance only. If it were about attendance I would reque all the time. 'Nuff said. Edited February 22, 2012 by DarthPagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 well even as you stated getting in a premade you still have 4 random people on your team. If i stopped entering a queue after every loss i would still be valor rank 10. Solo queues are hit or miss and no matter how much i think my team "sucks" i still play through it and keep pointing out mistakes like not calling for help when a door or point is being taken down. Just keep your head up sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistols Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Are you a Sith Lord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidopro Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 lots of people are grinding valor and dont give a rats *** about the daily since they will play 100 games this week anyway. best way to get valor is ignoring objectives. get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakan Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Why does there have to be an incentive to PvP? What is it with you people? What happened to just PvP'ing for fun in these games; for the competition of facing real players?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicuspid Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 you're just not good enough, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalmac Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Why does there have to be an incentive to PvP? What is it with you people? What happened to just PvP'ing for fun in these games; for the competition of facing real players?! I have always asked this question and never get a reply from them. Just crickets in distance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamajawn Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Why does there have to be an incentive to PvP? What is it with you people? What happened to just PvP'ing for fun in these games; for the competition of facing real players?! Indeed. Last night, my Empire team faced a very good Republic team in Civil War. By the end of the match, the rest of the Empire team was sitting on the east turret complaining about the Republic being OP while I was fighting alone. Do people just not like to fight anymore? *edit* I DO understand the frustration of playing with morons and feel for you, OP... yes, yes I do. Edited February 22, 2012 by Bamajawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthPagan Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 What happened to just PvP'ing for fun in these games Because PvP in this game is not fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthPagan Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 Are you a Sith Lord? Jedi Guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabilok Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 More instant gratification! Why don't they just skip the dailies and give us BM gear when we turn 50!!1111one I don't want to learn to win, wins should count a losses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthPagan Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) More instant gratification! Why don't they just skip the dailies and give us BM gear when we turn 50!!1111one I don't want to learn to win, wins should count a losses! I never said any of that stuff. Way to jump to conclusions. Also, you must be an Empire player. Edited February 22, 2012 by DarthPagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBninjaX Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 the incentive is to get better so you don't keep losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistols Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Jedi Guardian Will you be my padawan learner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthPagan Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 the incentive is to get better so you don't keep losing How does that help when I get a bunch of players who don't want to take objectives and just farm on my team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokingGoose Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Are you a Sith Lord? Genious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakan Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 OP, you're not allowed to complain about PUGs. People have been complaining about PUG PvP for years. Nothing will ever change. We've all experienced the pain. Find a guild, and start joining as a group. You'll start to win more. /endthread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Why does there have to be an incentive to PvP? What is it with you people? What happened to just PvP'ing for fun in these games; for the competition of facing real players?! What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokingGoose Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I never said any of that stuff. Way to jump to conclusions. Also, you must be an Empire player. Are you implying he is an Empire player because he doesn't want everything handed to him on a spoon or because he is telling you that people play to get better or what? Don't understand. You're saying he must be an Empire player is a huge compliment to Empire players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalliadies Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Why does there have to be an incentive to PvP? What is it with you people? What happened to just PvP'ing for fun in these games; for the competition of facing real players?! This would be me mindset aswell, however your assuming that a lone player can make a difference (in order to get his fun), Yes this can occur and man is it fun. But what more often happens is you end up with a bunch of PuGs who dont; -read OPS chat and/or follow the plan -understand playing the objective -attack the healer frecasting behind the tank what actually happens is a complete team failure and NO competition. There is no fun to be had. I do not enjoy having to (as a sniper), lead a charge alone, take the focus, stop caps and kill healers while my team ***** around fighting a few tanks no where near the objective. The good news is as soon as Winning is taken out of gear progression I will no longer care. If the team is ****, I will go do my own thing, get my medals and get credited my due without being held back by the need to win. Edited February 22, 2012 by Kalliadies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 This would be me mindset aswell, however your assuming that a lone player can make a difference (in order to get his fun), Yes this can occur and man is it fun. But what more often happens is you end up with a bunch of PuGs who dont; -read OPS chat and/or follow the plan -understand playing the objective -attack the healer frecasting behind the tank what actually happens is a complete team failure and NO competition. There is no fun to be had. I do not enjoy having to (as a sniper), lead a charge, take the focus, stop caps and kill healers while my team ***** around fighting a few tanks no where near the objetive. The good news is as soon as Winning is taken out of gear progression I will no longer care. If the team is ****, I will go do my own thing, get my medals and get credited my due without being held back by the need to win. Find intelligent players on your server and queue with them. 1 player might not be able to make a difference, but 4 can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueDND Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I never said any of that stuff. Way to jump to conclusions. Also, you must be an Empire player. Not every PUG is the same. Also, the person said what he said because your initial post made it sound like you played 1 game then made this post. Also, you posted that PvP in this game is not very good. If that is the case, focus on PvE and don't worry about PvP until you feel that PvP has gotten better in this game for you to play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthPagan Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 So since everyone else is generalizing I will as well. You all are saying that the PvP in SWTOR is awesome and it's completely balanced. That I should have expected to que with 3 other people in order to win. That if I'm playing with 7 other people who are terrible that I should just get it done by myself or I am just a bad player. You are all geniuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spymaster Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Valor? Commendations? You answered your own question. You also get XP and creds, and if you enjoy PvP.... you get a little fun (which should be the real point anyway, right?) I know it's frustrating when you get into a team that has no clue how to win... but you don't have to win to be rewarded. When I find myself on a badly losing team, I look for small personal victories. Stop the ball carrier at the goal line solo, kill the highest level enemy player on your own, get revenge on that guy who knocked you off the bridge. etc. Just have fun. If ALL you care about is the daily, you need to relax. Play the game, let the wins come. The more you play on a bad team the better you'll personally get at the game, and then when you find yourself in a close match with a good team that really needs your help, you'll be in a better postion to swing that win over to your side. Edited February 22, 2012 by Spymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebi Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Why does there have to be an incentive to PvP? What is it with you people? What happened to just PvP'ing for fun in these games; for the competition of facing real players?! Problem is... PVP these days isn't fun or competitive. It's usually a gear race, and takes place in shoebox sized minigames where the outcome means nothing (you are rewarded for winning or losing, and after doing the same minigames 1000x do you really care anymore?). This isn't open world PVP. This is static, meaningless, minigame grinding. And only incentive (apart from the RNG + gear focus), is that there is nothing else to do. Edited February 22, 2012 by Jebi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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