So you want to go back to the days were people who pve'd only and sometimes did bgs dominated those who only did pvp? No thank you. Vanilla wow was terrible in pvp because of that. The best gear for pvp should only come from pvp. And mixing gear would have to mean that pvp gear was viable for pve. But that would make pve too easy and boring because if a person could clear ops in pvp gear then in pve gear it would be a breeze. wait..isn't that the case now?

Yeah and wow Bubble made you immune to cc which undying rage doesn't. It really is a matter of L2P. Oh and in organized pvp the healer will not be able to heal the Marauder because he will have to choose between himself or the marauder or he will be cc'd.

Oh so now the argument changes to pocket healers and a full resolve bar? Way to change the conversation arguments when things aren't looking good your way

Again. read the full post and answer the full post not just a part of it. Immune makes you immune to cc. If an attack that does 1 damage but still cc's me for 8 seconds i am going to get cc'd for 8 seconds even if i use Undying Rage. If i am immune the attack will do 0 damage and i will not get cc'd for 8 seconds. Bubble- makes you immune to all harmfull effects and doesn't remove health Undying Rage- lowers damage you receive and removes 50% HP Are you saying there is no difference?

An ability that makes you immune can never be compared to an ability that mitigates damage. Sorry but its true. If you are immune you can use it to become immune to cc, interrupts etc. 2nd thing to the op is undying rage is never used offensively. It removes half your health. Marauders use it when they are almost dying so it is always used defensively. Learn the difference between using an ability defensively or offensively. Thats like saying that if i use saber ward while doing damage to someone then im using it offensively . If someone uses undying rage because they are about to die and proceed to kill the person they are fighting then they used that ability to avoid dying and in the process ended up killing the person they were fighting. But i know im just wasting my time because a person who says bubble=undying rage can never be reasoned with. Bubble- makes you immune to all harmfull effects and doesnt remove health Undying Rage- lowers damage you receive and removes 50% HP Same right?

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Its not the same as a pally bubble smart man. It does not make you immune and thus you can be cc'd. CC the marauder and kill him once Undying rage ends.. Pally bubble was op because you couldnt damage, interrupt or cc them while they damaged you. This has now become a L2P thread:o

Guild wars 2 has no gear progression in pvp and is yet considered the Holy Grail of a pvp mmo. How funny.

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It is funny how you don't understand that you are beeing spoon fed if you are allowed to get better gear than others . The game that every pvp'r is dying to play is Guild Wars 2. Do you know that there is no gear in pvp? All you win is cooler gear. No one has a stat advantage. But i guess the WoW generation wants to be spoon fed their rating by having better gear and playing fotm setups so they can feel better about themselves and so they can think they are good players.

What do you mean wont get credit? Are they erasing valor ranks? Because that would be the only way that they could remove the credit we got. Your credit is having a higher valor rank than other players who didnt do pvp. Valor is just a way to measure the time a player has spent in pvp.

The only gear progressiona pvp games should have that separates the good players from the bad is vanity gear and leaderboards. The stats for good and bad players gear should be the same. Anything else is just beeing a baddie.

By hardcore do you mean people who have too much time on their hands because they dont have a job, still live with their parents , arent married and don't have kids to take care of? Harcore= more time to play Skilled= good at a game Hardcore is not = to skilled Sometimes it is.

Implying a Marauder has worse utility or survivability than a BH