radbass Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 anyone else notice that there are no rewards whatsoever for doing open world PVP outside of PVP areas? i enjoy a good murder as much as the next guy, and iv had a couple epic battles that really got my heart pumping (i love it when i get ambushed and still win lol).... But if you only get PVP rewards in designated areas that are also in PVE servers then what's the point in playing on a PVP server? you should get mercenary commendations, or at LEAST valor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWImara Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 PvP servers have been pointless ever since risk was removed in PvP. It amuses me that you feel the only thing missing is rewards. What about consequences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistols Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Those who enjoy PvP for the sake of PvP, do not need rewards to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radbass Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) PvP servers have been pointless ever since risk was removed in PvP. It amuses me that you feel the only thing missing is rewards. What about consequences? i was under the impression that open world PVP causes gear damage. is that not true? lol if thats the case i need to head to tatooine with my guild and grind out some merc commendations before i hit 50... Edited February 22, 2012 by radbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBninjaX Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) I agree that it is kind of pointless but I disagree with rewards for pvping. PKing is just a fun thing to do in general. You should get valor though. I was hoping that a pvp server meant I could quest and pk republics regularly. That makes for some very fun gameplay, something the devs constantly miss the mark on --happened to Warhammer also. Edited February 22, 2012 by HBninjaX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radbass Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 yeah the merc commendations would be something to think about but i think you should DEFINITELY at least get some valor for relevant kills. maybe just a little bit. i mean... whether ur in a warzone or not, ur still PVPing. so you should get Valor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealTorrne Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 PvP servers have been pointless ever since risk was removed in PvP. It amuses me that you feel the only thing missing is rewards. What about consequences? This. If killing an opponent awards valor, shouldn't being killed by an opponent cost valor? About the only thing I liked about Aion was that their pvp "currency" was both gained AND lost. Too bad the rest of that game was pretty much garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squiddish Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I lol whenever I see these ZOMG THAR IS NO GANK REWARD threads pop up. And yes, I play on a PvP server. Although I certainly wouldn't complain if some reward, merc comms or whatever, was added to world PvP, I world PvP because... hold on to something this is going to blow your *********** mind... I like to PvP. HOLY CRAP SQUIDDISH! ARE YOU INSANE!? WHO PVPS FOR FUN YOU PVP FOR GEAR LOLZORZ!!!1! When did doing anything in a game require rewards to be worth doing? Seriously, where did it start? Wait, don't answer that yet, let me get in my Anti-WoW-hatred bunker. Ok, go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surgin Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 PvP servers have been pointless ever since risk was removed in PvP. It amuses me that you feel the only thing missing is rewards. What about consequences? Oh the days of making people's corpses explode in Diablo how I miss thee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiaRB Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 PKing people who are doing quests in pve gear isnt pvp so you shouldnt get any rewards for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyusan Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 The murder of an enemy on a PvP server is all the reward I need. In other words: A matter of preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegathegreat Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 the reason you cant have world pvp rewards is world pvp suffers from faction imbalance......the only way to give rewards for pvp is within a c ontrolled setting like an arena where its (me vs you) not (me vs 10 of you)........ with that being said arena's would put every class under a microscope and ruin the game........ the game is fine, play it for what it is....learn, adapt, practice i get so tired of nerf this and nerf that, when all i ever see in the game is me dominating regardless of what toon i play on, and yes i have 4 toons already and they all dominate, you just gotta know everything about the game and apply yourself to the scenario's presented....... sometimes i wonder what people look at when they play, why they make the decisions they make.....i dont know how many times i see people blow cooldowns only to be countered by a defensive cd or vanish........ i guess the point is stop blaiming everything other than yourself and either go play the game as is and have fun or rideout.......its that simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squiddish Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Plus, I will never get tired of leveling up an alt and making sure I kill my quota of 10 Sith before I leave the Dune Sea. NEVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOvertone Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 OPvP pre-Ilum is far from pointless. In fact, it's some of the most fun I've had in the game. It is a bummer though that you don't at least get Valor for kills. Would it really hurt to get +20 for a Kill in OPvP? Just a little something would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proculus Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 PKing people who are doing quests in pve gear isnt pvp so you shouldnt get any rewards for it. I agree that there doesn't need to be rewards for open world pvp. However, any time one player kills another player in a contested area, it's pvp. No matter how hard someone frowns on it, or how unprepared one combatant was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindianajones Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Anyone who says "I do it because it's fun" is missing the point. I do it because it's fun too, but 99% of the population doesn't. They're going to go to warzones, they're going to go to Ilum, because people want the progression thanks to the WoW mindset. Very few people are actually going to go out and seek out PvP just for the sake of it anymore. Players just no longer have that mentality. They want rewards, if they don't get them in open PvP, they simply won't do it. This is why the people who actually like it have such a hard time finding it. Aside from Voss, I rarely if ever found any open world PvP in my levelling, and have searched far and wide for it at 50. It's just not happening. If Bioware chooses to give rewards on Ilum and in Warzones, they also need to give rewards in open PvP, or people simply won't do it. To the handful of people saying they do it just for the sake of enjoyment, I applaud you, but there aren't enough of you to make it something that happens consistently in an entertaining way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cempa Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 PvP servers should have protection that's ok IF...AND THAT IS A BIG IF...All questing areas were shared. As it stands most areas are not shared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squiddish Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I don't know why everyone is saying they have such trouble finding OPvP while leveling. Are you all Empire? I'm betting you're all Empire. I play Republic on the Black Vulkars server, and I get into at least 5-10 fights with Sith while leveling on every planet from Tatooine to 50. Seriously, every other quest some OPvP happens. Once you get to the OPvP zones, of course (like the Dune Sea). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winteria Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I did over 150 lvl with all my toons and saw like 2-3 red players during all that grind... oh and they were passing by in speeder... Epic Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWImara Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Anyone who says "I do it because it's fun" is missing the point. I do it because it's fun too, but 99% of the population doesn't. They're going to go to warzones, they're going to go to Ilum, because people want the progression thanks to the WoW mindset. Very few people are actually going to go out and seek out PvP just for the sake of it anymore. Players just no longer have that mentality. They want rewards, if they don't get them in open PvP, they simply won't do it. This is why the people who actually like it have such a hard time finding it. Aside from Voss, I rarely if ever found any open world PvP in my levelling, and have searched far and wide for it at 50. It's just not happening. If Bioware chooses to give rewards on Ilum and in Warzones, they also need to give rewards in open PvP, or people simply won't do it. To the handful of people saying they do it just for the sake of enjoyment, I applaud you, but there aren't enough of you to make it something that happens consistently in an entertaining way. Right, and while I respect your opinion (even if I disagree with it) the problem with incentivizing world PvP is that if people don't want to do it (they evidently don't) they will only change if the rewards are comparable or better than what they could earn elsewhere. Doing this leads to exactly the types of problems people complain incessantly about on the forums. Two sided RvR games do not make good open world PvP, there will always be a faction imbalance and people will constantly complain about said imbalance. Those of us who remember open world PvP fondly (myself included) probably remember it from FFA games or at very least RvRvR games, and certainly remember it from the days before all PvP behaviors were incentivized. TLDR; Ilum should be evidence that world PvP shouldn't be incentivized without careful consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaj Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Those who enjoy PvP for the sake of PvP, do not need rewards to do so. QFT, and besides that no one should be rewarded for ganking lowbies in open world PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radbass Posted April 2, 2012 Author Share Posted April 2, 2012 QFT, and besides that no one should be rewarded for ganking lowbies in open world PvP. that is not the point of this thread. i have stated that you should at least get valor for RELEVANT kills. if you wouldnt get exp for killing a mob of that lvl, you shouldnt get pvp rewards in open world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexster Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Necromancing a bit. Anyhow, world pvp should not give a player any sort of reward in my opinion. Pvp reward should be a realm boon of some sort, the enjoyment of /sit x100 on an opponents corpse, and playing well enough that your characters become known to the opponents by sight and name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radbass Posted April 2, 2012 Author Share Posted April 2, 2012 i enjoy pvp as much as the next guy. but there is no arguing against the fact that openworld pvp is almost nonexistant in this game. the best way to fix this would be to offer some tangible reward for relevant kills. although i suppose the valor is a moot point now anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varicite Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 anyone else notice that there are no rewards whatsoever for doing open world PVP outside of PVP areas? i enjoy a good murder as much as the next guy, and iv had a couple epic battles that really got my heart pumping (i love it when i get ambushed and still win lol).... But if you only get PVP rewards in designated areas that are also in PVE servers then what's the point in playing on a PVP server? you should get mercenary commendations, or at LEAST valor. I thought that this was going to be a thread about the lack of world PvP in non-designated PvP areas on a PvP server. However, I can subscribe to at least giving valor for kills out in the world. That's not asking too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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