The existence and popularity of Call of Duty disproves your theory. They've been doing the exact same thing for like... 3 games.

The only problem here is that the Empire Huttball whiners will very quickly realize that Voidstar is so, so, soooooooooo much worse than Huttball. And half of them will then go back to the Empire never to complain about Huttball again.

And I will proceed to do so when the piss-poor raidframes that Bioware has decided I prefer will show me who has debuffs consistently, instead of showing me worthless garbage (hey look... that guy has Force Might. Awesome. Useful information) Seriously, UI mods. Or at least let me customize the raidframes beyond making people's health bars bigger. But until then, if you aren't the person I'm currently healing, so I can see in my target frame that you have bad things on you, I'm not going to be dispelling you. Blame Bioware for deciding that we don't need a customizable UI.

Reasons I will quit your Warzone: Its Voidstar. No reason to stay as Republic, its a loss. Its in progress and we're losing horribly. Its Voidstar. The Imp team has 10 people (every other game) Its Voidstar. I can see that we have 0 healers and/or the healers are worthless Imps have all 3 turrets Its Voidstar. Forgot the most important one: Its clear my team eats paint chips.

Hey there Mr. Invalid Comparison, haven't seen you since... the last thread I opened! Healers get medals for healing. DPS gets medals for damage. You both get medals for kills, since you both participated in the kill. Any questions?

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I imagine this will stop a lot of the crying on the forums. Every one of these changes seems like they are really listening to the players. No more medal farming. Valor up quicker in WZs. No more Ilum box hunting. No more instant Alderaan side speeders. More medals for healers (kill credit). No more DoTs interrupting caps. Bioware is listening, gentlemen.

Why? Sub-50 PvP is both A) More fun B) Less gear dependent All my SW:TOR PvP videos are sub 50, I am absolutely NOT looking forward to hitting the cap and watching all the joy of PvP implode :|

LIGHT 'EM UP! random lowercase nonsense so the forum won't automatically downsize my battlecry.

Pretty sure he very specifically says that one, actually.

Killing everyone who has ever failed a mission is a leadership model that will see drastic diminishing returns.

I don't know why everyone is saying they have such trouble finding OPvP while leveling. Are you all Empire? I'm betting you're all Empire. I play Republic on the Black Vulkars server, and I get into at least 5-10 fights with Sith while leveling on every planet from Tatooine to 50. Seriously, every other quest some OPvP happens. Once you get to the OPvP zones, of course (like the Dune Sea).

Plus, I will never get tired of leveling up an alt and making sure I kill my quota of 10 Sith before I leave the Dune Sea. NEVER.

I lol whenever I see these ZOMG THAR IS NO GANK REWARD threads pop up. And yes, I play on a PvP server. Although I certainly wouldn't complain if some reward, merc comms or whatever, was added to world PvP, I world PvP because... hold on to something this is going to blow your *********** mind... I like to PvP. HOLY CRAP SQUIDDISH! ARE YOU INSANE!? WHO PVPS FOR FUN YOU PVP FOR GEAR LOLZORZ!!!1! When did doing anything in a game require rewards to be worth doing? Seriously, where did it start? Wait, don't answer that yet, let me get in my Anti-WoW-hatred bunker. Ok, go.

Your average MMO player, especially self titled "real pvpers", has about the intellect of an adolescent gorilla. Thus, they are incapable of evaluating the merits of getting into the next game faster, and only see *** LITTLE NUMBERS at the end of the game they won so quickly. Instant gratification is all their little brains can handle

I wish I was on your server. No matter how many asses I save, I always end up with only 1 or 2 MVP votes :|

They do need some love, this is definitely true. They also deal almost all weapon damage, the only type of damage which can be shielded AND absorbed by armor, and are one of 2 or 3 ACs that do so (other being Sentinel and possibly Guardian, I believe). No I didn't read through all 4 pages of this thread. But still, its not the doomsday you make it out to be. Is this the class for the person who wants to run around and be Rambo and just go steamroll people? Nope. Ok, so what does this class do? OBJECTIVES. You sit your Gunslinger behind some cover where he/she can see an objective. The enemy is LoS pillar humping? I don't care, they'll have to come out to get this objective. Are you getting a bajillion kills? No, not really, you're defending an objective. Like I said, the Gunslinger really does need some more ability to kill things. But with their knockbacks and CCing abilties, combined with piles of AoE, they are pretty damn good at locking down an objective. Put a Gunslinger on one of the side turrets on Alderaan, have him take the side speeders for respawns, and the enemy is NEVER taking that damn thing. Especially if he's dirty fighting.

This, forever. I took my jedi shadow friend who doesn't pvp much into her first Huttball game and she was all worried because she didn't know what to do. I said go stealth in the endzone and unstealth when someone gets close enough to pass. She got 4 scores. Seriously, this strategy is basically unbeatable. They can't stealth scan the whole endzone.

We couldn't even get the tank to the first boss. He'd crash, reload, zone in, and crash out before he could even run the distance to the first boss :|

Glad to know this is a widespread problem. I have 2 friends I regularly play with, and the three of us tried to run Cademimu yesterday. The tank just repeatedly crashed to desktop until we eventually gave up and went back to questing. AFAIK he hasn't run into issues anywhere else, just Cademimu.

No, they'll complain about it taking a week to get gear. You're supposed to be handed full epic battlmasterz the day you ding 50.

Except that Wrex is probably the most epic character in either game. Also, your argument proves his point, because you DO get the option to blow Wrex's face off. I honestly can't remember with Grunt. I'm sure you can get him killed in the end mission though.

He means the TRACERMISSLETRACERMISSLETRACERMISSLETRACERMISSLE people have the ability to cleanse Tech debuffs. So, playerbase problem, not Sniper problem. If 1/10th of the Tracer spammers played their class even remotely well, Lethality would be a joke. Everything would get cleansed.

I, too, would love to see videos of a player just dying repeatedly. I am sure it would be as entertaining. The only people basing their opinions on these videos are the **** NERF TRACER ROAAAAAAAAAANDS people, and nobody listens to them anyway.

Silly goose, Hutts don't have feet. Show Giradda the respect he deserves.