Setanian Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 BTW That system is coming sooner rather than later. Proof or it's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setanian Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 If only we had the technology to punch people through the monitor. Ninjas would cease to exist on that epic day. The only problem with that is that if that was the case, you'd get punched right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkulous Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 This I would have no problem with. If the companion actually contributes to the fight then they have as much right to a need as any player character in the group. Conversely, if they are not there they have no right. Not to mention there is no one else in that party to roll for tanking gear except that companion. I'm not saying you can't roll NEED at all for a companion. You just can't roll for your companion against a fellow player who is rolliong for their MAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilosoldier Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Proof or it's not happening. I really dont care whether you believe me or not. Its coming though. Its coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineschmidt Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Proof or it's not happening. It's coming, deal with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setanian Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Not to mention there is no one else in that party to roll for tanking gear except that companion. I'm not saying you can't roll NEED at all for a companion. You just can't roll for your companion against a fellow player who is rolliong for their MAIN. "can't" ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkulous Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 The only problem with that is that if that was the case, you'd get punched right back. Nah, ninja's are cowards. The worst they would do is tell on me with their Mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setanian Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I really dont care whether you believe me or not. Its coming though. Its coming soon. Sure it is... *pat* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darne Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I think if you want something for your companion you say at the start of the run that you would like to Need on whatever class gear for one specific companion, and in exchange, forgo any gear that you might equip for your player character. On a different run you may choose to only Need for your character. But to have one player selecting Need gear for several different classes is greedy and could potentially create an imbalance in loot distribution among all contributing members of the flashpoint/operation. I don't think of it as a rule, but it's a matter of courtesy and consideration of the group effort. I'm making it a point to clarify this at the start of runs since it's really just a matter of communication and agreement. At that point anyone that decides to go back on what they agreed is, pardon my language, not a gentleman. I'd be ok with you rolling for your character OR your companion. Like you and Galbatorrix have stated, rolling for everything will create an imbalance, and it's that imbalance that has caused grief to so many. If companions were meant to be part of you, I think everyone would be rolling need for everything. Which is definitely not intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setanian Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Nah, ninja's are cowards. The worst they would do is tell on me with their Mom. Well then you'd be picking on the wrong soldier with me then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineschmidt Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Sure it is... *pat* It is, your time of ninjaing is up sparky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkulous Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 "can't" ?? yea, can't. Or suffer a bad reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilosoldier Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Sure it is... *pat* Dont be mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygranir Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Well then you'd be picking on the wrong soldier with me then This Marine begs to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecanis Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Come on folks ..petty quibbeling doe's nothing to move a debate forward Edited February 22, 2012 by Grecanis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darne Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Well... the argument looks like it's going to **** now. All this "yeahuh" "nuhuh" doesn't get anywhere. Thanks to the few that kept it civil and made it entertaining. I guess I learned that for now, it's best to just clearly state your intentions, while BW goes looking into this. Peace out everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkulous Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 This Marine begs to differ. ^ My Ninja Hitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferroz Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 This I would have no problem with. If the companion actually contributes to the fight then they have as much right to a need as any player character in the group. Conversely, if they are not there they have no right.meh, it doesn't matter if they have the right or not, they don't have the ability to roll. The players have the ability to roll though; so the players can roll need and equip the item in the slot that corresponds with that companion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vydor_HC Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 That argument doesn't seem that sound. Because next you'll say your companion has 2 sets. One for tanking and one for DPSing. At which case you might as well just hoard every piece of gear you ever run into ever. Just in case you might want to equip it at any given time. Which isn't what you do. So why not? Yep, if I can get a need out of it, then it's a need. I don't quibble with the specifics. If it will make my character better in a non-trivial manner, then I will reserve the right to roll need for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecanis Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 meh, it doesn't matter if they have the right or not, they don't have the ability to roll. The players have the ability to roll though; so the players can roll need and equip the item in the slot that corresponds with that companion. Yes, I'm well aware of your position on this issue. ...darn Jawa's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natasevil Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I will admit I've hit "need" for my companion. I'm new to mmo's and didn't realize this was even frowned upon by some people. I also have to admit that most of the time if my toon or my companion can't use the gear I will hit "pass" instead of greed. So basically I just give up the gear to the rest of the group if I can't use it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PostalTwinkie Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I will admit I've hit "need" for my companion. I'm new to mmo's and didn't realize this was even frowned upon by some people. I also have to admit that most of the time if my toon or my companion can't use the gear I will hit "pass" instead of greed. So basically I just give up the gear to the rest of the group if I can't use it at all. Keep needing for your companion, it is perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilosoldier Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Keep needing for your companion, it is perfectly fine. I wouldnt listen to this advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vydor_HC Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I will admit I've hit "need" for my companion. I'm new to mmo's and didn't realize this was even frowned upon by some people. I also have to admit that most of the time if my toon or my companion can't use the gear I will hit "pass" instead of greed. So basically I just give up the gear to the rest of the group if I can't use it at all. There's a debate about whether or not rolling need for your companion is acceptable. It's perfectly fine either way. Just make sure when you get in a pug, you discuss how you prefer the loot rules to be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferroz Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) See, I don't agree with that. For the same reasons you already dismissed. I always play as Darne. But Vette doesn't always play with Darne. Neither does Jaesa, or Broonmark, or anyone else of those 6. *shrug* After I acquired him, Tharan was pretty much always there. I'm not really sure what your point is though; I've asked several times why that line of argument is supposed to be different argument than "it's 20 cunning and 1 crit for me vs 20 cunning for you so you shouldn't roll against me" ... but I don't recall seeing an answer. Even if we are talking about lvling up. If you are struggling chances are it's not because of your companion. No, when I hit Voss I struggled because I had let Tharan's gear get too far out of date; I hadn't realized how important it was to keep his gear up to date so he had gotten minimal upgrades. Add a some pretty serious upgrades, I smoked the bonus series quest that I just couldn't manage before (he could finally keep up healing on that one pull with the 2 silvers). The rest of the planet was cake from that point. By your logic since your companion is an extension of you. Do you ever give your companion the better gear?YesLet me see your gear than your companions. I'm willing to bet you have the better stuff? Why is that?Actually, I spent warzone commendations to gear him out before I spent them on me. Level 40 gear in my early, particulary 2 implants and ear piece, even though I could have used those commendations to pick up a few upgrades for myself (I didn't bother because I don't like the look of the pvp pieces at all). let me link you my armory... oh wait... Edited February 22, 2012 by ferroz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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