SirCruCial Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The way they do gear for PvP is just down right stupid. Leveling from Valor Rank 50 to 60 should almost if not all the way gear you out in Champion Gear. So you get to Valor Rank 60 and your Weekly's will get you one Battlemaster Bag? Really? And two Champion Bags which is pretty much worthless. I have been 60 for about 3 weeks now and have got 3 tokens. Each week you can get a total of 16 BM Bags. So 3 weeks I have got 48 Battlemaster bags and 3 tokens. 16% drop rate. Where is this 25% drop rate at? So today I opened 4 bags and what a suprise to me, i get 60 Champion Tokens. PvP as a whole is broken damn near, and this just makes it pointless to do things in this game. Flame Wars Begin NOW!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 well from what i hear you should wait to get 20-30 open then report back that seems to be the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizwolf Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 4 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestyOwn Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Fooooooo realllllll? 4 bags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicuspid Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 i havent gotten a commendation in 3 weeks. so thats what 42 bags. where's my hugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmosiss Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 This is the 1000th post today about it. Small sample size, it will even out...trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delavager Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 You are not special. This is probably the 30th + thread on this. Your late to the game. Complaining more is going to help fix the problem, promise. We all care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwrtheyn Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 ~ 16 no token,not sure if its real 25% or some kind of bug. around 10 i would at leats expect 1 even with bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickFett Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Just remember, for every player that cries on this forum there are plenty of others who have great luck with BM bags (better then 25% chance). I personally had a run of 8/9 BM tokens and I'm guessing my average was about 30-35% before I got my set. Obviously those with good luck don't come crying on these forums, it's only the whingers, so of course it looks like the 25% average is off. Anyway, if you really enjoy PVP then eventually you will get a full set of BM gear. Just keep playing, enjoy your PVP and soon enough you will have a complete set too (like everyone else!) Edited February 21, 2012 by MickFett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotasnoova Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just remember, for every player that cries on this forum there are plenty of others who have great luck with BM bags (better then 25% chance). I personally had a run of 8/9 BM tokens and I'm guessing my average was about 30-35% before I got my set. Obviously those with good luck don't come crying on these forums, it's only the whingers, so of course it looks like the 25% average is off. Anyway, if you really enjoy PVP then eventually you will get a full set of BM gear. Just keep playing, enjoy your PVP and soon enough you will have a complete set too (like everyone else!) Yup, I am currently 2 for 29 My IRL friend is 9 for 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatEccs Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 it takes over a year, ~25 days ingame playtime in a REAL PVP MMO to get end game gear here people crying cuz they can't get gear a week after they hit BM level... if you don't have full BM in a year from now, go ahead and QQ but you still won't get any condolenses from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpDrive Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) 4 Bags... lol... Come back on your 3rd week of no commendations and then maybe we'll care.... Actually probably not even then. It's been that long for me and no one cares! Hell I don't even care anymore, whining here doesn't do anything. Edited February 21, 2012 by JumpDrive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deusmortis Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm in the below average BM bag luck group as well, though a good run last week has me closer to average. Keep a few things in mind: Random is random. Some will good luck, some bad. It's a poor system, but it is on its way out, and a new system is supposed to be implemented in 1.2. BM isn't much of an increase over Champ. Some of the items are honestly downgrades. My helmet drops surge in favor of... Accuracy? Not having BM gear is not the end of the world. A well played Champ will still beat a poorly played full BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple-A Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Ya it's very random. I went 6 bags with nothing then I had the following 7 with BM coms and now have had a dry spell again. It will work out in the end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venjinze Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I feel your frustration bro, my advice would be to roll an alt until march 64 valor Assassin w/ no BM gear. Rolled a scoundrel, so much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehsals Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 You jelly? http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=309973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraCleric Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 It's not a 25% drop rate across all bags you have. It's 25% drop rate per bag. 4 bags shouldn't net you one BM comm guaranteed, because that's not how drop rates work. That said, I got full BM gear in 2 weeks, how mod you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revilen Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah i think it's great that end game pvp gear is based upon luck... I mean i think it's soo awesome when i see people in full BM and i think "Wow... how lucky!" Instead of, "Wow they must be skilled at pvp'ing!" It's a great idea to NOT have Battlemaster gear based upon on skill like all those "other" mmo's and leave it all up to dumb luck.... Who cares if those other "unlucky" pvper's are actually good, and possibly even better than us "lucky ones." Well don't think i can lay the sarcasm on much thicker... Now ignoring the constant exploiting done in nearly every warzone played, and the disaster of the end game pvp planet know as Ilum. I'd like to know what BW was thinking making the End Game Top PVP Gear based solely upon luck? I'd prefer the top tier PVP gear based upon skill and accomplishment as opposed to the dumb luck option, and anyone that wouldn't, i question their merit as a serious pvper. Bottom Line Fix End Game PVP before tera comes out, because as big as the fan base for star wars is, your alienating a great deal of pvper's. Many are willing, myself included, to overlook the problems that exist within a newly launched mmo but the amount of effort and time that BW's put into end game pvp, especially gearing, is an offense that many serious pvp'ers will not overlook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehsals Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah i think it's great that end game pvp gear is based upon luck... I mean i think it's soo awesome when i see people in full BM and i think "Wow... how lucky!" Instead of, "Wow they must be skilled at pvp'ing!" It's a great idea to NOT have Battlemaster gear based upon on skill like all those "other" mmo's and leave it all up to dumb luck.... Who cares if those other "unlucky" pvper's are actually good, and possibly even better than us "lucky ones." Well don't think i can lay the sarcasm on much thicker... Now ignoring the constant exploiting done in nearly every warzone played, and the disaster of the end game pvp planet know as Ilum. I'd like to know what BW was thinking making the End Game Top PVP Gear based solely upon luck? I'd prefer the top tier PVP gear based upon skill and accomplishment as opposed to the dumb luck option, and anyone that wouldn't, i question their merit as a serious pvper. Bottom Line Fix End Game PVP before tera comes out, because as big as the fan base for star wars is, your alienating a great deal of pvper's. Many are willing, myself included, to overlook the problems that exist within a newly launched mmo but the amount of effort and time that BW's put into end game pvp, especially gearing, is an offense that many serious pvp'ers will not overlook I don't entirely disagree with you but most of the time having more PvP gear just means you have more time to play, in any game. Time is the factor, not skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple-A Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) I read the forums quite a bit but I have yet to see anyone come up with a proper means of calculating a person's skill level. I think what you are suggesting is throwing out gear entirely but then what's the reward for being more skilled? I look at titles and all I ever see is wow that guy has a lot more time to play than me and I couldn't care less about a title. At that point there is zero incentive to win. Planetside is the only PvP game I've ever played that had character advancement that gave you more options/utility without making your gear a factor in the equation. Edited February 21, 2012 by Triple-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonusDHV Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 So 3 weeks I have got 48 Battlemaster bags and 3 tokens. 16% drop rate. Where is this 25% drop rate at? Flame Wars Begin NOW!! Sorry, been bugging me... 48 bags - 3 tokens = 6.25% rate not 16% math is hard.... ask Barbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungihoujo Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 It's the same in all mmos- end tiers take a while to get, eventually they become mid tier and become really easy to get- people who got it then whine that it was so hard for them to get it, people who can now get it act all smug- a new tier is added and the cycle repeats itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenoNation Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I opened 2 BM bags yesterday and got 2 tokens. Also, my first 2 bags (on Saturday) had tokens. For every person complaining about the injustice of the bags and/or their terrible luck, there are plenty of people like me who don't see the problem. ps: Opening 4 bags in a row and not receiving a BM token does mean there still isn't the 25% chance that Bioware claims you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehsals Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics Learn something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gao_Gao Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) i went to voss the other day and asked the first 4 people i saw basic questions that are commonly asked on IQ tests. i found out that the average IQ of my server was below average. go figure. Edited February 21, 2012 by Darth_Gao_Gao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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