Vaipyr Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 The community makes me a sad panda. Any bets on what the next nerf it thread will be? Medpacks maybe? Oh wait, LoS! Damn non empty and flat maps. They're so OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchy Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Typical QQ thread but in reality if they were to listen to you and take heals away from people not full on heals then give those classes interupts in place of the heals ie. mercs have no interupts and 1 stun 1 knockback so if you take away thier ability to pop off heals here and there then a healer would win 1v1 against a dps merc every time due o out lasting the merc as so give him an interupt. Oh wait then ya'll would qq about that too I would HAPPILY give away all my heals for an interrupt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIKank Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I would HAPPILY give away all my heals for an interrupt! A million times this! I mean, I can see how a 2.5k crit heal every 2.5 sec is op. Oh wait, no I can't. Not to mention non-heal spec'd peeps don't have pushback protection. This has to be a pre-50 WZ thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macsimus Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is there anything the OP does aside from troll and be bad at this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YMIHere Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 We're talking about DPS sorc not heal sorc. Please learn to read. If you die when someone blows hard on you how do you think gunslingers feel? You've got better defensive cooldowns than we do...sprint and self heal... For reference, Sorcerers don't have defensive cooldowns, we have the bubble that we use like one. As far as your topic goes, some classes are inherently weaker than others in 1v1 and you just don't match up to ranged dps with a healing offspec. I'm not real familiar with your class, but I'd guess it'd be torn apart 1v1 versus Bounty Hunters and Sorcerers. Equal skill they are going to know when to duck around a corner to heal up. That corner will likely be 30 meters away or so, so running up there probably won't do you any good. As far as I can tell you just have to rely on your team. On the plus side, those guys flying around with glow sticks can't go all superman on you, shoot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkfrey Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 We're talking about DPS sorc not heal sorc. Please learn to read. If you die when someone blows hard on you how do you think gunslingers feel? You've got better defensive cooldowns than we do...sprint and self heal... You seem to forget Dirty Kick. There's nothing that a swift kick to the sack can't solve - been working for centuries. While Smugglers/Agents don't have quite the same movement as Sorc/Sages, they're not wholly without tricks they can utilize in a bad situation. Not least of all, a foot placed squarely in the meat and two veg of an ungentlemanly sort in their way. Just because you don't have healing spells doesn't place you as the weakest player on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McVade Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Combat takes too long to drop in PvP. It does give an unfair advantage to DPS classes capable of healing, if they're able to elude the battle long enough to patch themselves up for 10 seconds or so. It would be a non-issue if PvP combat ended in a reasonable time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBelkas Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is there anything the OP does aside from troll and be bad at this game? Nope. Another idiot. Surpise surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestunhi Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Combat takes too long to drop in PvP. This I agree with. I understand it taking longer if you have DoTs active as you are still causing damage - but even without that it sometimes take far too long to leave combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 IMO, all classes should have self-heals. We should move away from the need for dedicated healers and tanks in MMORPG PvE and PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephim Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Can I trade my off-heals for 50% more damage reduction? While we're talking nonsense, why not trade off-heals for stealth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandzibar Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 imo, all classes should have self-heals. We should move away from the need for dedicated healers and tanks in mmorpg pve and pvp. wtb gw2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestunhi Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Can I trade my off-heals for 50% more damage reduction? While we're talking nonsense, why not trade off-heals for stealth? How much damage reduction do you have and how much do you *think* other people have which is 50% higher than you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubalous Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 so basicly this is a threat that says: I have no heals and do crap dps so every class that does have heals should have that removed or I should get one too while keeping every ability that i got instead of said heal. If you can't outdps or interupt a dps spec with a heal the problem is not the heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmallama Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Its completely stupid to see high dps classes that are about to die urn away and just HEAL and survive onl6 because they run and got behind LOS... wHATS EVEN MORE OUTRAGING is that you see randomly some dps healers simply anihialte the balance of battle by healing the others and OTUHEALING THE DAMAGE OF PLAYERS..... heals should be nerfed and heals from dps should be very very weak There are TWO DPS classes, Snipers and Marauders, these classes do not have self heals they can use around corners. The classes that do, are hybrid heal / dps classes and totally should be able to heal themselves. If you are fighting a hybrid class, that CAN heal, then you need to prepare for it and make sure to interrupt them. Not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doxxs Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Give sniper heals! DPS can heals just distribute them equally!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathiss Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 He said that DPS-specs with a heal can outheal the DPS of other classes. I said to prove it. I can't outheal DPS direct damage... and i'm heal spec Hell a full heal specced sorcerer cant outheal an equally gears dps with half a brain that knows how to effectively interrupt the heals ....without guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaipyr Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Give sniper heals! DPS can heals just distribute them equally!! That makes no sense and would only make the Operative AC even more useless and subpar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telaan Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 How does anyone take the OP seriously at this point? Everyone who took him seriously got trolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerdoc Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) That makes no sense and would only make the Operative AC even more useless and subpar. As long as OPs use kinetic and internal for everything, it won't. Also, I wouldn't want to see DPSers get self heals. For themepark MMOs clear roles work better, even hybrids. For sandboxes, well, whoever played one like UO or MO knows that you can build your char there for whatever you like most. Edited February 18, 2012 by Lerdoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calista_ZK Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Sorcs/Sages are the most stupid OP broken class in the game currently. Every part of your rant is rendered invalid. Well, this post took a great deal of insight and thought apparently,...hmm, actually, it didn't. The post however that you quoted, DID. It showed knowledge of the class. This lazy post is actually invalid due to lack of any evidence to back in up , care to try to justify "why" you think that why? any knowledge of the class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goulet Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 it's not so much that they can heal, but how much that can heal buy compounded by other mechanics. A lot of classes that are dps/heals who then go for the dps focus have their dps stats bolster their healing (crit/surge or power and alacrity). So while they might not get the heal off as easily they can heal for equal amounts on a per heal basis. So once they have the option to heal they can heal themselves rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestyOwn Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 LOL? if a sniper doesnt kill a good sorc in one burst, well ? Force Speed, LOS , Self Heal, Interrupt , Other Self Heal, ?? CC, Self heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allagash Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Scoundrel here, i LOS people and heal all the time though it usually gets interupted or i just get bursted down. I can see in a 1v1 sitution how this would be a factor to lose. I will say that geared mauraders are my bane as i cannot dps them down fast enough before my hp pool is out. My theory is the OP of this post is just bad at pvp or was on CDs and couldnt interupt the heal. Thats usually what happens to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsAlpha Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Its completely stupid to see high dps classes that are about to die urn away and just HEAL and survive onl6 because they run and got behind LOS... wHATS EVEN MORE OUTRAGING is that you see randomly some dps healers simply anihialte the balance of battle by healing the others and OTUHEALING THE DAMAGE OF PLAYERS..... heals should be nerfed and heals from dps should be very very weak They can't heal if they're running, chase after them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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