AlbertXP Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Any class forced to sit still to do any amount of reasonable damage is bantha poodoo. Gunslingers are just sad. They need a stealth while immobile or need to have the under cover req to do thier damage dropped. Ops and sorcs are crazy tough. Sorcs are just obvious about it. Snipers aren't more immobile than a mercenary tracer spammer or sorc. You're playing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idockdudes Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The problem with making list like this is that all opinions are NOT equal. Since you cant really tell which people on the forums know what they are talking about and which people have no idea, its a good idea to just consider everyone in the latter group. The forums are a playground for crying bads. Why do you want to get an idea of what all of them think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XParoleX Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 assasin/shadow got to be the worst no over the top openers average dammage and light armor also no heals. You sir obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Any skilled Assassin/Shadow running a 23/18 spec can absolutely destroy people. People complaining about how sins/shadows aren't good have no idea what they are doing, but please keep complaining more buffs incoming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decrypter Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Assasin/shadow is worst by far the blow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosseking Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I mean snipers win 1v1 vs ANYTHING. Depends on the spec tbh. With dirty fighting maybe, but with sharpshooter (whatever the sniper equivalent is) you are in trouble against half of the classes due to white damage. Any tank class will just lol at your damage. Shadows / assasins? Deflection, deflection, deflection. Also dirty fighting has it's curse, cleanse. Someone does that and you are just jumping around auto attacking with 0 energy. But in all seriousness, I can't believe how much people playing snipers / gunslingers must suck if they are constantly the least feared class on everyone's book. I'm pretty much without expection the best damage dealer in any warzone I do if I'm not defending a node or something. I honestly cannot understand how someone wouldn't be in top 3 (if they tried). It's nearly impossible not to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talkative Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Wow like every single person have listed Sniper as the bottom of the barrel. I always seem to get tops or close to it and it is nice when people ignore me completely as I stack shots on them. Lots of what makes the class better or worse in pvp is how simple the class is to play and Mercenary and Sorc are easy mode compared to all others so even the bad kids can play with some skill since there is so little needed. I can a) Dodge and simply ignore you while I re-stealth, or b0 lock you up and knock you down. You are nowhere near as big a threat as a Sorc or even a Jugg who's geared and knows what he's doing. Juggs are highly irritating but for the most part easy to outlast. Snipers don't even ping on my radar unless he's set up right in front of me and I'm in stealth, in which case so sorry, you're dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericcc Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sage/Seer Basically you cannot beat any class in the game as a healer if given the chance to 1 vs 1 with equal or worse or better gear. Resolve just does nothing for you due to it being the most useless system ever designed to combat CC. Damage far out exceeds healing due to having -30% reduction debuff on you at all times in combat, defence bubble works for about 2 seconds or less against the huge burst most classes all have why bother. Healing gives you about 2 medals that's it for 200k+ healing and over! Rewards do not give you incentive to play more or less any kind of healer in the game at all. BW you hate healers, if it wasn't for the fact that some minor team based requirement you needed one you may as well delete the whole healing ability from the game in terms of PVP. My whine for the day. My opinion and I rate it as bottom of all the fun classes. It's a good thing I enjoy being the helpful healer to the best of my ability while being mostly locked out of my keyboard as a Battlemaster. Otherwise I would of rolled some OP fun class 10k+ dps along time ago. WHat level are you... If it's sub 50 you should be winning 1v1s. They can take a while yeah. If it's 50 you should be definitely healing 300k+, even sub 50 and decent level you should be making that much or more, if you are only healing anyway. I agree a bit with your gripe about rewards for healers, seems like a hybrid spec with can do 2.5k and 75k heal is better. But the rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judgeofdeceit Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Powertech / Vanguard Sorcerer / Sage/Operative / Scoundrel Mercenary / Commando Assassin / Shadow Juggernaut / Guardian Sniper / Gunslinger Marauder / Sentinel PLain and simple Quit QQing about SORCS they sucks unless skilled so learn how to play U nubs :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScopey Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 i love it that people are putting sniper at bottom. makes it a lot more funny when i come top of kills and damage done ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrocc Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Coming from someone that has played (too a higher level) most classes ingame, I can sum it up like this: Top tier: Vanguard/Powertech (yes, I play a powertech, and once I've got the hang of it, it became insanely strong) Guardian/Juggernaut Scoundrel/Operative (not OP, but definitely a pain in the arse) Middle range Sorc/Sage Sin/Shadow Commando/Merc Sentinel/Marauder Weakest Gunslinger/Sniper (as things are now, with brackets for 50, it became obvious that this class is on the weak side; you can't really beat any class on a 1vs1 fight, and the dmg output is weak, without bringing any sort of utility like heals, stealth or protection to your team; unless you're fighting people who never heard of line of sight, you won't be doing much damage, you have little to no sustain, and the list could go on) And my main used to be a sniper, was among the first snipers to hit 50 on my server, tried both engineering and marksmanship specs, it was faceroll during the first week after launch, it was mediocre shortly after when people started to learn the game mechanics, and it's horrible now that you are facing competent players who are smart enough to hide behind a wall just when your ambush was about to fill up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohrazer Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Sage/Seer Basically you cannot beat any class in the game as a healer if given the chance to 1 vs 1 with equal or worse or better gear. Resolve just does nothing for you due to it being the most useless system ever designed to combat CC. Damage far out exceeds healing due to having -30% reduction debuff on you at all times in combat, defence bubble works for about 2 seconds or less against the huge burst most classes all have why bother. Healing gives you about 2 medals that's it for 200k+ healing and over! Rewards do not give you incentive to play more or less any kind of healer in the game at all. BW you hate healers, if it wasn't for the fact that some minor team based requirement you needed one you may as well delete the whole healing ability from the game in terms of PVP. My whine for the day. My opinion and I rate it as bottom of all the fun classes. It's a good thing I enjoy being the helpful healer to the best of my ability while being mostly locked out of my keyboard as a Battlemaster. Otherwise I would of rolled some OP fun class 10k+ dps along time ago. lol, you should try fighting a sage/sorc as a tank guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranlaen Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 After reading through all the posts here, I've decided to update the list so something that seems more alongside with everyones input: == BEST: AKA: Most Feared Class == Operative / Soundrel Sorcerer / Sage Mercenary / Commando Powertech / Vanguard Juggernaut / Guardian Assassin / Shadow Marauder / Sentinel Sniper / Gunslinger == WORST: AKA: Least Feared Class == ...Your opinion? My turn OP/scoundrel x3(just to show the gap ) Powertech/van Sorc/sage Merc/commando Assassin/shad Jug/guardian Sniper/gun Mara/sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krytycal Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Assasin/shadow is worst by far the blow lol Agreed, I have an assassin and it blows... http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/krytycal/Screenshot_2011-12-25_21_50_22_814990-2.jpg http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/krytycal/Screenshot_2012-01-27_21_06_38_541345-2.jpg ...everyone else up. Edited January 28, 2012 by Krytycal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterKitty Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 This topic is based on the type of class you play. When I play with my level 50 operative (Scoundrel) in the concealment build, I fear no other class. I feel practically invincible and I've rarely lost on a 1 vs 1 fight. The healing operative is a different story. I'm weak, I can't kill anyone, and my heals can't really save a person who is fighting someone with burst damage. I think ever class is scary. When I play with my level 50 healing sith sorcerer, just like the healing operative, I fear everything. The difference is I can actually save people in pvp. I haven't tried the lightning or madness build for the sith sorcerer. I've already lost interest with the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahero Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 My point is a slinger/sniper has long list of abilities for both dps and cc that it can fire from 30-35m - no other class is capable of that. Sorry, but thats wrong. Sorc can spec to 35m range on a couple of his damage abilities aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warkat Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) If guardians isn't number 1 on your list than you must have some AWEFUL guardians on your server. But thats cool i dont mind not being nerfed while i destroy 1v2-3 easily. I feel we need a nerf since its so easy to 1v2-3 people and the classes u have on your list are not doing that at all. Edited January 30, 2012 by warkat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediBryBry Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 You know, if you play in the under 50 bracket on Infinite Empire server you will start noticing my sniper Foulds. I am constantly top 3 in damage done / kill - death ratio / medals in every single warzone I've played. Marks spec. It's not a weak class of you know how to play it. In place cover -> 100% snipe crit -> snipe -> follow through -> 1.5 sec ambush -> explosion -> follow through -> killshot is good game. Flashbang is the most under estimated moves in the game. We have a stun, we have an aoe knockback yes you have to use cover to utilize it (fix this please) but stand in place cover should be second nature for all good snipers so it's not that big of a deal. We could be better, but only slight modifications are needed. Don't agree? Then learn to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adzzy Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 At what level and/or gear level are we talking? Sub 300 expertise (and equivalent gear) Best (in this general order) Ptech/Vang Sorc/Sage Merc/Comm Rest The others It starts to change a bit leading to Battlemaster (post 500 expertise) Best (in this general order, assuming post patch operative/smuggler) Ptech/Vang Assassin/Shadow Merc/Comm Marauder/Sentinel Jugg/Guardian Rest The other 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungihoujo Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Sentinel>Commando>Scoundrel>Sage>Vanguard>Shadow>Gunslinger>Guardian. Even so, I wouldn't say a guardians is considerably weaker than a sentinel- for a good player anyway. But, pvp should be balanced around the best geared and most talented players, not the 99% of the people who are clueless. If though we were to put best to worst for bads, the list is completely different.... Bads best to worst- Commando>Scoundrel>Sage>Gunslinger>Vanguard>Shadow>Sentinel>Guardian And in this case- the first three are leagues above, gunslinger can be decent with a bad as can vanguard, but the final three, the melee classes, are terrible in a bads' hands. Also- scoundrels in this area without gear are several slots lower- but, a geared scoundrel is top notch even for a bad simply due to their incredible burst- come nerf, scoundrels will be lower on the top list, and probably close to the bottom for all the bads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wikar Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I fear a good Marauder right after Operatives and Sorcs, since when they are sticks to you and have even a half CDs ready you are dead almost as fast as from Operatives working hard on you I understand they have bad time being kited by Sorcs or killed in stun by Operatives (i think we all have), but in melee without stealth they are just n1 in hurting people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrustyDog Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 best class.. well played geared level 50 marauder Really, really scary class in the right hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creshin Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) I am amazed that Vanguard/Powertech is so high in so many peoples minds. Just out of curiosity what spec of Vang/PT makes you cringe the most? My list Operative / Soundrel Sorcerer / Sage Powertech / Vanguard Mercenary / Commando Assassin / Shadow Juggernaut / Guardian Marauder / Sentinel Sniper / Gunslinger Edited January 30, 2012 by Creshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavroz Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 With some classes the power of the classes changes with the spec. Eg shadow/assassins In protection spec they are amazing they can tank and guard like crazy in WZS are very hard to kill have great dps plus stealth and on top of that all the CC of sages/sorc PLUS a vanguard/ptech pull and if that is not enough they can sprint and go invul!!! Yet an inf or heavy balance speced shadow goes down like a cheap ****** in Thailand that is giving away half price specials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araudry Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Best to the worst for pvp Operative / Soundrel Sorcerer / Sage Assassin / Shadow Mercenary / Commando Marauder / Sentinel Powertech / Vanguard Juggernaut / Guardian Sniper / Gunslinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeybusiness Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 people have a tendency to underestimate sniper/gunslinger, not suprising Vanguard/powertech/guardian/juggernaut are due to recent changes, the best medal farmers They can dish out a fair amount of dmg/ have enormous defensive capabilities/ and guard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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