Hexxin Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 They make up 40% of swtor player base. They arent going to risk losing that many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravestrike Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 They make up 40% of swtor player base. They arent going to risk losing that many people. stop looking at their damage numbers at the end of the warzone map and look at their death numbers as well. sorc are pretty balanced. they have some good tools, decent damage and not much burst and aren't hard to kill at all. now look at the mercs/commandos who are like #2 dps with 0 deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolsaber Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Balancing based on AOE splash damage that kills next to nothing is not the way to go. People seem to get angry when they see someone performing better damage wise than them but don't realize spamming AOEs that don't kill anyone is not necessarily OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestunhi Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 They make up 40% of swtor player base. They arent going to risk losing that many people. People who quit the first time balance is altered may as well leave anyway, they won't be long term customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercaptain Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Actually, moreso because most of the dev team plays themselves, which is why they got so out of balance in the first place. Edited January 25, 2012 by Supercaptain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaidax Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Sorcs are REALLY squishy... Bring someone with a real burst damage and see them drop like flies before they can even pronounce "***". Sorcs are really good against people who do anemic damage, they can outlive that with healing, kiting and what not, but they really blow against a good burst. A good test to see if your damage is good enough is sorc bubble, if it annoys you or you feel that it is a big deal, then it basically means that your damage sucks to begin with and no wonder you get rolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnazg Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 stop looking at their damage numbers at the end of the warzone map and look at their death numbers as well.. Balancing based on AOE splash damage that kills next to nothing is not the way to go You mean like this, right? http://i.imgur.com/qhzTb.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidopro Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 you also forget to mention everyone will attack you for this thread since they all play a sorc...see above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warkat Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 sorcs are healers inquistors are caster dps and they both die ez. i dont see why u even want a nerf to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestunhi Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Sorcs are REALLY squishy... Bring someone with a real burst damage and see them drop like flies before they can even pronounce "***". Sorcs are really good against people who do anemic damage, they can outlive that with healing, kiting and what not, but they really blow against a good burst. A good test to see if your damage is good enough is sorc bubble, if it annoys you or you feel that it is a big deal, then it basically means that your damage sucks to begin with and no wonder you get rolled. I get hit by force lightning and hit the jet charge button. Suddenly they have a powertech Shoryukening them in the face immediately followed by a 70% armour piercing rail shot. At the same time I'm positioning myself for the inevitable knockback so that I will stay with them if it's on a ledge. After that it's easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolsaber Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) You mean like this, right? http://i.imgur.com/qhzTb.jpg How many solo kills did you get with all that AOE, your kill number is high because you AOEd a bunch of people who ended up dieing probably to ST dps. I very much doubt you got up there AOEd and killed 10 people and then did it again a bunch more times. Edited January 26, 2012 by lolsaber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnazg Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 How many solo kills did you get with all that AOE, your kill number is high because you AOEd a bunch of people who ended up dieing probably to ST dps. I very much doubt you got up there AOEd and killed 10 people and then did it again a bunch more times. Uh, its voidstar, its nearly impossible to get solo kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintawno Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 You mean like this, right? http://i.imgur.com/qhzTb.jpg I want to be THAT guy when I grow up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpticRefit Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 You mean sorcs in Battlemaster? Ever since my sorc hit 50, I've basically been cannon fodder. The damage I did in WZs pre-50 seemed a lot greater than it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posixgod Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 This is the BEST post about sorc's I've read thus far. The OP's post and the following post after his are absolutely correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravinian Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 You mean like this, right? http://i.imgur.com/qhzTb.jpg I guarantee that was from stim stacking when 50s were in warzones with level 11s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodguard Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 This is the BEST post about sorc's I've read thus far. The OP's post and the following post after his are absolutely correct. I completely agree. They won't nerf sorcs. They will cater to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangerascal Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I paid the devs not to nerf us. The river of tears fills my tub at night and helps me dream of beautiful things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppaman Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 stop looking at their damage numbers at the end of the warzone map and look at their death numbers as well. sorc are pretty balanced. they have some good tools, decent damage and not much burst and aren't hard to kill at all. now look at the mercs/commandos who are like #2 dps with 0 deaths. I don't die on my commando, but that's because I am a healer and I will let everyone else die in my stead so I can get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balail Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 stop looking at their damage numbers at the end of the warzone map and look at their death numbers as well. sorc are pretty balanced. they have some good tools, decent damage and not much burst and aren't hard to kill at all. now look at the mercs/commandos who are like #2 dps with 0 deaths. Agreed! I play a Sorc and I don't know why people think they roll other classes. This may be the case at lower levels because of their stuns but honestly once I hit 50 I got a huge wake up call. Sorcs do some good DPS but it is mostly damage over time unless you roll Lightning which is hard to play because you are constantly waiting for cast times. And not to mention the fact that my K2D Ratio is usually more deaths than kills. Everyone needs to stop complaining about classes and L2P. Every class has its strengths and weaknesses. People just need to learn to use these to their advantage. Spend more time learning your class and also learning other classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobings Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 stop looking at their damage numbers at the end of the warzone map and look at their death numbers as well. sorc are pretty balanced. they have some good tools, decent damage and not much burst and aren't hard to kill at all. now look at the mercs/commandos who are like #2 dps with 0 deaths. http://i.imgur.com/t1gza.jpg I don't actually think sorcs need nerfed neccesarily, I just like making people look silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrustyDog Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I see 3 commandos and 2 BH's b4 the next sorcerer. Equally geared, equal skill sorcerers really arnt all that. And what the op has left off is...wait for it....was he guarded by tanks (making him unkillable), whats the date (was he a 50 rickrolling 10's?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangerascal Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/t1gza.jpg I don't actually think sorcs need nerfed neccesarily, I just like making people look silly. http://imageupload.org/?d=3C3EBAEC1 this is fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodguard Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 http://imageupload.org/?d=3C3EBAEC1 this is fun Why is single target damage overpowered if too high but AoE ok? There have been plenty of nerfs in MMOs due to AoE damage? Why are OPS so singled out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravinian Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Post videos of it being done. Then we see how it actually works, rather than just a picture at the end of the match that shows nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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