VoXPCS Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I agree, Bioware and LucasArts made a great game and it's only getting better. Correction. They made a 'GOOD' game per EA. Not Great. They don't make great games. Requires degrees, talent, money, so on and so forth. Don't believe me? Read for yourself. Last line. Good game http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/01/20/ea-bounces-back-as-analysts-defend-%E2%80%98star-wars%E2%80%99/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 BW does not deserve anything for this 'MMO'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarka Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Indeed it has to be competitive in today's market. Exactly. It's all about what is considered "Competitive". A poorly thought out UI, poor performance on certain rig specs, etc, etc. Can all affect how "competitive" a product can appear in the market. ESPECIALLY when devs refuse to discuss the issues other than saying that they are looking into them. Sorry Bioware, but giving vague answers and refusing to give ETA's just doesn't cut it. If customers don't get satisfactory answers, they take their business elsewhere. It's that simple. But, I'm sure someone will just say "well good riddance!". And such a response would show myopia in regards to how events could ultimately affect the level of enjoyment THAT person could ultimately gain from this product. Edited January 21, 2012 by Tarka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Wrong, they got plenty of praise. See sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scan Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Just repsonded to critical post, long, pushed post and "post no longer exists" comes up... /sigh and yet, here we are with another BW drone fan post gaining longevity. Sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclekaula Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Id like to thank all the haters and unsubbers for paying their 60+ bucks to play a game for a month. I'm sure some of it went towards making the game better and for that a tip of the hat to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaManoNera Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Sorry, but I can't help but think that with 5+years of development, hundreds of employees, and a 9 figure budget that the game could've been much more than KoTOR with some multiplayer and tons of bugs. I don't doubt the hard work individual programmers, artists, designers, etc. put into the game. But this was obviously a seriously mishandled and poorly managed project. Which is unsurprising going by some of the higher ups involved with this game's development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkulaX Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 This is quite possibly the single most illogical, self-entitled, pointless troll thread I've ever seen. First, the point of the forums is not to provide kudos back to Bioware for a good game. Like it alot? Buy a second copy. The point of the forums is provide constructive feedback and allow the devs to get a general feel of what is bothering the community to adjust it or explain why it doesn't need adjusting. No it is not. The general section is to talk about general topics on the game. They have other forums to provide constructive feedback and bugs, likes, dislikes, need to improve areas etc for the game. They have already stated that devs do not pay attention to the topics brought up in the general forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gleneagle Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 My biggest worry keys on what was said at the end of the 'Rise of the Rhakghouls' intro video. I think it was James Ohlen speaking on that video (sorry if I got that wrong). He said (if I may paraphrase) that the players will decide the direction of development in the game going forward. That should be a good thing, but subjectively it seems to me the people posting most frequently here are exactly not the people I would want designing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarka Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) No it is not. The general section is to talk about general topics on the game. They have other forums to provide constructive feedback and bugs, likes, dislikes, need to improve areas etc for the game. They have already stated that devs do not pay attention to the topics brought up in the general forum. Source? I only ask because James Ohlen claims in his latest "coming soon" video that the devs are always listening to the community... Edited January 21, 2012 by Tarka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barathos Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I don't care if this is the single best MMO of all time. Saying "BW is getting bashed to hard, stop it guys!" reminds me a lot like this little vid... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclekaula Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 My biggest worry keys on what was said at the end of the 'Rise of the Rhakghouls' intro video. I think it was James Ohlen speaking on that video (sorry if I got that wrong). He said (if I may paraphrase) that the players will decide the direction of development in the game going forward. That should be a good thing, but subjectively it seems to me the people posting most frequently here are exactly not the people I would want designing the game. I give you 1 billion internets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingnoobe Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) You also cannot compare the modern day WOW to TOR because of the fact that Warcraft has had over 8 years of development time to fix bugs and add new content. Give TOR 8 years to develop and then compare it to WoW in its current form. I'm sorry but this logic only works with content. Nothing else.. Not bugs, not ui, not the market place, and things of that nature.. Only content. WoW didn't have WoW to look at it and decide what they wanted, how to use, and how to make it their own. WoW had others games sure, and they did pull for those games. Just like swtor should've pulled from wow. -Custom UI DUH IDIOTS! Can't be nice on that one. -Bracket pvp (cross-server pvp) There really is no reason not to. If there was actually decent world pvp in the um the worlds that may be different. But I'm level 40 and unless I go to a few certain spots (which are way the hell out of the way) there is crap for pvp. -A better lfg tool (I will agree with it not being cross-server lfg though). -Loot bugs, kill bosses and loot not dropped (not sure if it was fixed last patch but bottom line it should've been fixed within days not weeks of them finding out. Loot bugs are serious issues and should be addressed with hotfixes) And a bunch of little stuff that would've really made this game shine. But unless your a fanboi this game is mediocre at best. It has the potential to be a really great game, but I don't see it happening. And right now I'm simply looking for another mmo to pass the time. The only reason why I'm still here is mainly for the crafting they did get that right. For the most part anyways. Edited January 22, 2012 by Paralassa content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoggyMack Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 BW isn't getting the praise they deserve because they don't deserve it. You need to reread that sentence and think about the logic you have violated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDCowboy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) lolwut? They are only winning awards and getting high ratings from top video game critics. Go google something and research first? The game is averaging 7.5-8.5 reviews. That's low for what this game was hyped for. Rift is rated higher than this game. Edited January 21, 2012 by SDCowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalPremise Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 No it is not. The general section is to talk about general topics on the game. They have other forums to provide constructive feedback and bugs, likes, dislikes, need to improve areas etc for the game. They have already stated that devs do not pay attention to the topics brought up in the general forum. So the general purpose of the forums is to chant "YAYA YAYAY BIOWARE" ...Epiphany. I'm going to play the game. You people are literally not even bothering to try to conceal your trolling at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkulaX Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Source? I only ask because James Ohlen claims in his latest "coming soon" video that the devs are always listening to the community... I am not going to look up the hundreds of mod posts that state this when they close a thread and advise people in the official "omg I am butthurt I cannot swim in an ocean" threads that exist in the proper section. Plus http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=349 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarka Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 My biggest worry keys on what was said at the end of the 'Rise of the Rhakghouls' intro video. I think it was James Ohlen speaking on that video (sorry if I got that wrong). He said (if I may paraphrase) that the players will decide the direction of development in the game going forward. That should be a good thing, but subjectively it seems to me the people posting most frequently here are exactly not the people I would want designing the game. Thing is, I've heard the "community will drive the development" line many times. It's just spin. Devs will do what the investors want to do. I've yet to see ANY mmo that is purely or even majorly community driven in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoXPCS Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 You need to reread that sentence and think about the logic you have violated. is that linguistic dyslexia? or just unbridled stupidity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublmaker Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) I think it was James Ohlen speaking on that video (sorry if I got that wrong). He said (if I may paraphrase) that the players will decide the direction of development in the game going forward. That should be a good thing, but subjectively it seems to me the people posting most frequently here are exactly not the people I would want designing the game. That is pure 100% Win. Edited January 21, 2012 by trublmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarka Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) I am not going to look up the hundreds of mod posts that state this when they close a thread and advise people in the official "omg I am butthurt I cannot swim in an ocean" threads that exist in the proper section. Plus http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=349 Right, so you're just going to pull quotes out of ....the air and saying that mod say that them. I've never seen a mod yet say that the devs don't pay attention to a particular section of the forums. And the point of linking the General Discussion is what exactly? Edited January 21, 2012 by Tarka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkulaX Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 So the general purpose of the forums is to chant "YAYA YAYAY BIOWARE" ...Epiphany. I'm going to play the game. You people are literally not even bothering to try to conceal your trolling at this point. Sop let me get this straight, since I say its not meant as a cesspool of complaining from butthurt kids then I must support it being a BW cheerleading cesspool. Your logic is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurusaud Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 You also cannot compare the modern day WOW to TOR because of the fact that Warcraft has had over 8 years of development time to fix bugs and add new content. Give TOR 8 years to develop and then compare it to WoW in its current form. Then they shouldn't be charging the same price ($15/month) that they charge for WoW if this game doesn't compare (which it obviously falls so short on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomla Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 BW isn't getting the praise they deserve. I believe they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkulaX Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Right, so you're just going to pull quotes out of ....the air. And the point of linking the General Discussion is what exactly? You fail this hard elsewhere? It is not the just the general discussion forum now is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts