OK returning player here, just this week. Planned on taking my two 50 pvpers to the new max level...playing pvp. However what I am reading here seems to indicate that they both might as well be naked right now, because it seems I am royally screwed. So what should be my plan of attack? Am I going to have to pve? How does that work with no gear decent gear? This is an honest question because I dont want to go gimping up in WZs because I have nothing worth equipping because my gear is trash now. I started a new character to wait until I can figure out what to do in the meantime, but I really am not all the interested in scrapping my other two. So my question is what is my plan of attack as a newly returned pvp player to get back into competing? Is it hopeless?

I want to be able to build player made bases on Ilum under guild flags and have GvG fighting over these bases for area and resources like the game Shadowbane.

In one convoluted, all encompassing thread.

I didnt bother finishing your thread, but wouldn't it be vastly more productive to tackle these issues individually in separate threads?

I don't see any legacy components in your suggestion.

Thanks for this. I am leveling a jugg right now with almost the exact same plan/build.

Please step away from the tinfoil hat sir!

I dont care I just want this to happen yesterday. I am finding plenty to do, but last night was the first time in about a week that the 50 WZ popped and popped more then once.

This pretty much sums it up nicely. The only real reason people are complaining about this is because they have a need in their life to complain about everything. The complaints here are grossly invalid. The idea is to have more outlets for information and not less. Since they saw it on twitter first, or heard about it some other site, they complain. The problem is that the information is easier to find and output on some forms of communication and harder on others. Spread it out to as many sources as possible to have the largest audience.

The characters are bad. The animations are incredibly bad. The ui and control's are ridiculously bad. The combat is horribly boring and bad. The amount of back and forth running you have to do due to the quest limit is bad. The graphics are boring and uninspired. The skill system is interesting at first, but then you figure everything is the damn same...build resource, release resource. And the "no level" thing is ******** since their is simply one pass over each spoke in one direction. So your progression will always be a no desiccation other then which spoke you put points into this time. Mixing and matching skills is somewhat fun(your deck build)....but does not make up for all the bad. The quests are interesting and thought provoking....that's not bad. Everything that I forgot to mention is also just bad.

What an absolutely fantastic idea! OK not really but everyone is being so negative I thought I would play devils advocate and be positive. But yeah that is ridiculous.

Sorry but TSW aint stealing any subs from anywhere. The game is a steaming pile of crap. There have been three betas that I have felt like total crap about. The first was a game set in Rome where you did nothing but move rocks and logs from one place to the other (they called it realism). It never was released AFAIK. The second was APB, and we all know what that was. The third was TSW. I would rate the Rome one total bottom of the barrel, but even APB was better the TSW. The game sucks.

Nostalgia is a powerful thing. That is why it sold 3.6 mil copies right out of the gate. I played the hell out of d1 and d2 as well back in the day. D3 is really no different but gaming has really evolved since the hayday of d2. Honestly I dont think D3 will stay very populated for long when the nostalgia wears off.

That is all real positive and I really hope you are right and they keep a steady dev cycle going to improve and grow the game. However my mind keeps snapping back to WAR. This feels exactly like how they did WAR. Yeah I played it and it got better over time albeit at a slow snails pace. But it was just a slow death and it felt like one. I think the Reid thing makes me the most worried. Yeah his job will be replaced, but that is the scary part. I remember in WAR the went through many downsizes of their community relations manager and team. Towards the end I remember getting an email from the CRM, a housewife from Wisconsin I believe, talking about getting a few interns in and wanted to know what I might like to see in the game..... Anyways I am trying to stay positive, but honestly it is real hard right now.

Concerned? Nope, I am terrified. I went through this with WAR and it was horrible. This feels exactly the same. And with EA's track record with MMO's and how they handle them.....the future is not real bright I am afraid.

I think they admitted defeat yesterday. The hack and slash has started. This is going to play out just like WAR did when EA started to hack and slash that team. I hate playing a dieing game. I did it in WAR and it was depressing because I really liked that game. Unfortunately I am going to be doing it in SWTOR it appears. EA kills MMOs. They are unwilling to give them a chance to turn things around. I will never buy any MMO that EA is a part of ever again. Twice bitten and EA has 100% failure rate if they are hacking and slashing and going to maintenance mode with SWTOR.

You forget one other aspect of business, risk. Risk is where success is won and lost. Taking risk can mean failure, or it can mean unprecedented success. Blizzard took an MMO risk and went all in on theirs. They didnt shut down shop at the first site of rot. EA on the other hand pulls the plug at the first site of problems. They did it to WaR and they are doing it here. No risk, no reward. Putting this on lifesupport will mean they cut their losses. Unfortunately for us it means the game will just remain a rotting corpse for us to run around in until we can no longer stand the stench.

Actually no. When EA pulls the plug on a game for financial reasons, they are the ones killing it. Bad decisions are always part of the MMO process. It is how you turn it around that matters. But once the money is pulled, there is no more hope and the people left are left inside a slowly dieing game that is getting no more life life delivered. Both WaR and SWTOR had/have tons of potential. Problems, bad design decisions etc....yes, but tons of potential. Their is no hope for that potential to emerge, when they pull the life support away. Its just left to rot.

EA also killed E&B? So let me get this straight, EA killed E&B and they killed WAR and now they are killing SWTOR? Any other MMO's EA has its hand in killing? I never played E&B but the other two have been two of my favorites MMO's (albeit without some issues). If EA was a person they and MMO's were peeps, I think we would have a serial killer on our hands.

You have to be joking. It didnt matter where I went if the topic was SWTOR, SR would often show up to answer Q's, take in sugestions. He was a regular over at the SWTOR area in reddit. Of course he hasnt been around for 10 days....he was going to get fired. He was out looking for his next gig.

I tried to spin this news positively. I figured it was for the best and would positively effect the game in the long run and they knew what they were doing. Then I learned that Stephen Reid was part of this firing. The one guy that kept the community flowing. The conduit for the devs to the playerbase. After that I feel that this is pretty doom and gloom. I hope not, but cannot wrap my head around getting rid of the community rep and a damn good one. So even less interaction and input and the loss of the one guy that had the finger on the pulse of the community means what? They have given up? Lets just squeeze as much juice from this lemon as possible? I cannot see them trying to make some lemonade anymore after this news. It appears this game is going the way of WAR. Very unfortunate because this could have become a great game. What monumental fail. And I mean cutting and running at this point. I dont know, I pretty much do not see a future here and I hate to say that. Hope I am wrong. Two of my favorite games recently, WaR and SWToR going in the same direction. Look at the two things they have in common. This will be the last time.

I have really stuck to this game and had high hopes they would turn it around and make something spectacular. Getting rid of SR makes zero sense. He was one of the few people that had the pulse of the community. This does not look good for this games future.

reroll on the fatman nooob..... Haha just joking, I hear yeah and feel exactly the same as you. I love the game and want to play, want WZ's popping, but not willing to level another character again. Hope the server transfer thing works well. I really do hope it does.

Maybe you should look at his history first before making the claim that "people can acknowledge the failures and faults of something while still continuing to use it?" because that is not him. It doesnt matter what the issue is, he will take a negative position on it. Lots of people complain about this or that, but it takes real effort to complain about every single little thing perpetually.

First off I have to assume Valkirus is a paid bliz shrill. Nobody is that negative about this game for that long and still continues to play. I have never seen him do anything but bash this game to hell for months. Anyways I do love the game. Problems with underpopulated servers aside, I think the direction it is going is good. The improvements are good even though they are sometimes delayed. But what really made me appreciate this game even more was participating in TSW beta. Talk about painful and I was actually thinking about playing both games. I can only think of two betas I participated in that were anywhere close to being as bad, APB and some Rome MMO that you had to move rocks and wood around. Anyways that pain has me appreciating SWTOR that much more. Beta for this game made me want to play even more and sad when it would end. Now if they could fix the low population server issue quickly! And ranked WZ's.