Faztastic Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 As much as I am enjoying this game, Nar Shaddaa nearly broke my spirit, it has probably the worst level design in any MMO I have played. The quests are in all four corners of the main map, and when you travel to each corner, the mission objectives are invariably at the end of the section with long, winding claustrophobic corridors in between, and mostly unavoidable trash.To make it worse, you usually visit the zone before getting your Speeder, so must travel around on foot, and there is usually nothing to do on the way to your objective except kill random mobs.It's a bit tragic, because the planet itself is quite beautifully rendered, if a little bit too dark. Fortunately, with the right balance of Space battles, PvP and Heroics in previous zones, you can skip a lot of Nar Shadaa and move on to somewhere more interesting. I'm hoping at the very least, Bioware puts more minor missions in each section so you have more to do than run and gun from one end of the corridor to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassaa Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The creators of the Fifth Element would like a word with you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamiosoup Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Onslaught of copy/pasted corridors listed as a "planet" I agree Nar Shaddaa is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyHeaton Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I just finished Nar Shaddaa and loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qoojo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I didn't care much for Taris or Nar Shadda, but I liked Tatooine. I cannot say about Alderaan because I just got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungan Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The Nar Shaddaa bonus series is far less claustrophobic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KretanMelithorn Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I liked Nar Shadda just fine. I liked Taris and Tattoine more, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDiciple Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The fact you get speeder late for it is annoyance, however for some reason i found endless driving around Tatooine much worse - too much empty space, half of the questing is actually getting there (I guess it fits lore, no I'm not complaining about zomg cant zerg in 5 minutes, I like exploring but there's little to explore as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznthecapn Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I loved NS. Good story, great environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimer_Lins Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Nar Shaddaa was a lot of fun. Loved the aesthetics of the place. I even run a lounge there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJAZZY Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The problem that I have with Nar Shaddaa is that it is so enclosed. I get that same feeling with Coruscant a bit too. I mean you see all of those air speeders and cars zooming around. I want to be able to roam around a bit. I think why people think of this game as a single player game a lot of times is because of places like Nar Shaddaa. It is very single player-ish type of areas in their level design. Taris gets complained about too but I think it's because of all of the Rakghouls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazhara Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I've been through Nar Shaddaa about 4 times now, and I still love it. The atmosphere and layout is spot-on when it comes to lore, and it forces you to kill most mobs on your way, resulting in lots of xp. The trick is to make sure you have all quests for an area, and don't go to turn in before you've done them all - then again, that counts for every planet and every zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archifikoss Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I like Nar Shadaa so far, though I do agree that it's kinda claustrophobic and does feel too corridor-like. Still it's aesthetics are great, and I hope the devs expand on it in a later major patch or expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kainde Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The problem that I have with Nar Shaddaa is that it is so enclosed. I get that same feeling with Coruscant a bit too. I mean you see all of those air speeders and cars zooming around. I want to be able to roam around a bit. I think why people think of this game as a single player game a lot of times is because of places like Nar Shaddaa. It is very single player-ish type of areas in their level design. Taris gets complained about too but I think it's because of all of the Rakghouls Not picking on you but since it's a point several people have mentioned, Nar Shaddaa and Coruscant are supposed to be enclosed. That's the point. They are city worlds with seedy underbellies that house all the action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznthecapn Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Places like Coruscant and Nar Shadaa feel that way because they ARE giant maze like planets. You have to remember, these are societies who have explored the stars for THOUSANDS of years. Of course their home worlds are going to be filled with buildings and streets and such. The planet is one giant city. Did you expect fields and ponds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashu-ri Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The creators of the Fifth Element would like a word with you.. nah, I found Coruscant air traffic more Fifth Element. Nar Shadda is more reminiscent of Blade Runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJAZZY Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Not picking on you but since it's a point several people have mentioned, Nar Shaddaa and Coruscant are supposed to be enclosed. That's the point. They are city worlds with seedy underbellies that house all the action. I understand that. But it really feels like corridors. If they were more like Dues Ex: HR and how it has its cities then that wouldn't be so bad. But right now they feel like I'm in a bunch of packed warehouses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decampo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 In terms of MMOs, I've played WoW, AoC, Rift, EVE, some Warhammer and LOTRO and Nar Shaddaa and Coruscant are the two worst zones I have ever been to in an MMO. They are absolutely terrible in my opinion. Taris is possibly a close third too. Fortunately, the other planets are much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWGVet Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I actually enjoyed Nar Shaddaa, all the different color lights and stuff looked really sweet. I just wish there was casinos we could gamble on and more NPC's, ships flying around etc, it looks completely dead. This game needs more mini-games, hopefully some day we may see some. Edited January 8, 2012 by SWGVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashirae Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Nar Shaddaa is my favorite planet I've been on so far. Different people like different things. Shocking, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayth Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 In terms of MMOs, I've played WoW, AoC, Rift, EVE, some Warhammer and LOTRO and Nar Shaddaa and Coruscant are the two worst zones I have ever been to in an MMO. They are absolutely terrible in my opinion. Taris is possibly a close third too. Fortunately, the other planets are much better. Lol, what ? How is Balmorra and Alderande any better ? It's not in "closed area", but it's complete trash. Coruscant is terrible and such a disappointment, Nar Shaddaa is just ... and lol at all the heroics in the enemy's camp, so that you get ganked all over the place by sith players helped by elite mobs. But Alderande ? It was a total disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJJAZZY Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I found Balmorra to be great. It felt like a war there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCBull Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 As much as I am enjoying this game, Nar Shaddaa nearly broke my spirit, it has probably the worst level design in any MMO I have played. The quests are in all four corners of the main map, and when you travel to each corner, the mission objectives are invariably at the end of the section with long, winding claustrophobic corridors in between, and mostly unavoidable trash. To make it worse, you usually visit the zone before getting your Speeder, so must travel around on foot, and there is usually nothing to do on the way to your objective except kill random mobs. It's a bit tragic, because the planet itself is quite beautifully rendered, if a little bit too dark. Fortunately, with the right balance of Space battles, PvP and Heroics in previous zones, you can skip a lot of Nar Shadaa and move on to somewhere more interesting. I'm hoping at the very least, Bioware puts more minor missions in each section so you have more to do than run and gun from one end of the corridor to the other. I disagree. I love the whole feel of the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UjellyTrollicus Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 i disagree. now dromund kaas, THAT is a truly terrible planet, apart from the dark temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VorpalCheese Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 About the only thing I liked about Nar Shaddaa was the palisade. Beyond that, I agree with you...as do my friends. Probably my least favorite location so far, but the rest blow me away. My favorite so far is Voss...and were BW to ever put in player housing (beyond our ships), my character would settle down there without hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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