likwidtek Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sigh. Come on guys, let's not all pretend to be developers who understand graphics/game engines ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigg Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Who built the WC3 engine? you misread. "blizz didn't build the engine FOR wow" not "BLIZZ didn't build the engine for wow" he means blizz didn't build the engine explicitly for wow, they used one of their previous engines from WC3 and adapted it for their needs on their new game. At least that's how i read it. If he seriously was saying what you interpreted it as then >< d'oh. Sigh. Come on guys, let's not all pretend to be developers who understand graphics/game engines ok? Indeed! not ALL do it, just the legit minority of us Edited January 27, 2012 by Trigg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sir please start a developing company, your knowledge of the gaming industry is too much for these peasant forum dwellers. Sir, please stop writing things like that. You don't have any facts in this post, nor your post have any correct conclusions. In fact you are so damn wrong simply because OP is having smaller delta to correct answer from you; Hero engine at state where EA/BW took it was in horrible state and they didn't improve it very much further. So, from development point of view it was work done very poorly. Kisses, your Mwanga Btwanga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantragk Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 you misread. "blizz didn't build the engine FOR wow" not "BLIZZ didn't build the engine for wow" he means blizz didn't build the engine explicitly for wow, they used one of their previous engines from WC3 and adapted it for their needs on their new game. At least that's how i read it. If he seriously was saying what you interpreted it as then >< d'oh. Indeed! not ALL do it, just a few of us Ah gotcha. :x But we can tell the difference between a well written engine and a poorly written engine. At least those of us that have played quite a few MMOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love that there is a huge discussion about the Hero Engine, when 99.9% of people have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what the engine even does. Perpetual Ignorance is hilarious. Quoted for epic truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truedark Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ah gotcha. :x But we can tell the difference between a well written engine and a poorly written engine. At least those of us that have played quite a few MMOs. It doesn't matter how well written it is. BW got the engine when it was still in development, they can modify it however they want. Unless we had direct access to the source code we would never be able to tell how much BW put into the game engine. For all we know they could have signed the contract then threw out entire sections of the engine to rewrite them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkCarnage Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Sir, please stop writing things like that. You don't have any facts in this post, nor your post have any correct conclusions. In fact you are so damn wrong simply because OP is having smaller delta to correct answer from you; Hero engine at state where EA/BW took it was in horrible state and they didn't improve it very much further. So, from development point of view it was work done very poorly. Kisses, your Mwanga Btwanga. i do wonder how you can say they not worked on it to improve it much, if you do not know by how much they worked on it. do you some how have a copy of the basic coding they got then compaired it to the current coding ? if so how you get it, hacked it, stole it ? seem to me unless you in BW programer pool you really not going to know what they done to the orginal engine at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine Not hard to figure out. Actually since they are using only a fraction of what the ORIGINAL game engine infrastructure is, it's hardly the hero engine anymore. Once again, why do people insist on speculating over something they clearly know nothing about. Posting a link to wikipedia doesn't mean you've learned all there is to know about coding an engine, or how that engine interacts with the rest of the software code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferroz Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Companies make a ton of changes typcially after buying an engine. people saying you can't fix x and X really have no concept of coding. You can fix anything by rewriting parts of the engine.No, occasionally there are some things that are so core to the API that you can't fix them without throwing most of the API out and starting over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswizzle Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 You don't have to be an expert to have a discussion about video game engines. The difference here is some people want to have a real discussion, and others want to act like they know it all. Explain the knowledge you have or at least offer some perspective. When I judge the game I'm looking at what they built into the engine, not the basic tool set. Using my eyes and hands, I'm really impressed by the game they made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkitink Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love that there is a huge discussion about the Hero Engine, when 99.9% of people have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what the engine even does. Perpetual Ignorance is hilarious. I like when 70% of the people post in 22% of the threads with 99.2% made up statistics because they don't have any idea what they're talking about. They just make stuff up to defend their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkitink Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Actually since they are using only a fraction of what the ORIGINAL game engine infrastructure is, it's hardly the hero engine anymore. Once again, why do people insist on speculating over something they clearly know nothing about. Posting a link to wikipedia doesn't mean you've learned all there is to know about coding an engine, or how that engine interacts with the rest of the software code. The irony is you acting like you know anything about it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I like when 70% of the people post in 22% of the threads with 99.2% made up statistics because they don't have any idea what they're talking about. They just make stuff up to defend their position. So you didn't actually understand my statement. I said and i'll paraphrase so you can comprehend. -- MOST or Majority or for my Examples sake: '99.9%' which is a "TURN OF PHRASE" commonly used; do NOT know what they are talking about. I said = most people don't know what they are talking about. you said = Most statistics and people don't know what they are talking about. Thank god you cleared that up for us. My point still rings true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkitink Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 So you didn't actually understand my statement. I said and i'll paraphrase so you can comprehend. -- MOST or Majority or for my Examples sake: '99.9%' which is a "TURN OF PHRASE" commonly used; do NOT know what they are talking about. I said = most people don't know what they are talking about. you said = Most statistics and people don't know what they are talking about. Thank god you cleared that up for us. My point still rings true. Nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The irony is you acting like you know anything about it either. You have no evidence of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eklipzze Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hero Engine is really a pile of crap, at least compared to whatever WoW uses. Unfortunately, WoW itself is a pile of crap. A good engine doesn't make a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkitink Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 You have no evidence of this. Neither did you, it didn't stop you either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Nice try. lol you are such a troll. and a bad one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkitink Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 lol you are such a troll. and a bad one at that. Keep replying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Keep replying. Ok, but you realize by doing this we are simply derailing this thread, which is what I had intended all along. Edit: I guess I should be thanking you. Edited January 27, 2012 by djsmileey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkitink Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ok, but you realize by doing this we are simply derailing this thread, which is what I had intended all along. Mmhmm. Sorry Mr. Pro Developer Network Technician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Mmhmm. Sorry Mr. Pro Developer Network Technician. Please stop, I can't take all these compliments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkitink Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Please stop, I can't take all these compliments! 'Adept' lol. Not at designing websites for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkitink Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Please stop, I can't take all these compliments! I can't believe you defended Warhammer Online, lool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I can't believe you defended Warhammer Online, lool. Warhammer is currently leading all subscriptions of any MMO Developer by almost 11 million. Of course I will defend them... I will defend them to the death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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