OP Claims TM is OP. OP rolls BH to test TM. OP Realises BH is easy and TM is nice. OP comes onto forums to defend TM. End of story.

Cool, I didnt realise you could play SWTOR on an Android phone

Whats up? Struck a nerve? The good pvpers are out there right now getting the gear, while the bad ones are here whining about not having any. *NEWSFLASH* You dont get Champion bags or commendations by posting on forums, now go back to losing WZs.

/Signed Whiners are gonna whine.

Yeah, they could start handing out Columi drops on normal mode FPs to balance the whole gear thing out.....

lol, you call that crying? Not at all, Im still running 4 Cent pieces and it makes very little difference. I cant see how stating that Ive opened 80+ bags but am still 4 pieces shy of a full set is crying!?!?! Especially since I said I had gotten used to the system a good while ago. I'll get my pieces when I get them, hell I might even get BM versions before I get the champ ones. Do I care? Nope...

M8, Ive been level 50 for 4 weeks now and I'm still missing 4 champ pieces. Ive opened 80+ bags and had numerous duplicates. Lord scourge is looking sweet but Im still 4 pieces short. My mate on the other hand only needs 2 champ pieces for a full set and he only dinged 50 2 weeks ago. On top of that hes only opened about 35 bags. Thats just the luck of the draw and I got used to it a good while ago now. You still wont find me on here crying about it though.

The only people complaining about pvp gear are bad pvpers. Took my mate 2 weeks to get 3 parts shy of a full champ set and hes not whined like a girl once. Seriously, if youre on here whining about pvp gear and why you get roflstomped, youre a crap pvper, end of.

A thread full of more whiners who want gear handed to them on a plate. Well, youre going to get your wish. I look forward to facerolling you in your new pvp gear and then listening to more excuses as to why its so unfair..... which will happen! Youll get your pvp gear and youll still find something to complain about, thats what all bad players do.

For a so called "EVE Player" you have quite a short memory. If gear isnt important why would you bother training up for T2 stuff? Go on, go and fit your Vaga/Ishi/Zealot or Cerb with Meta 1 stuff and lemme know how you get on. Theres gear progression in every game and EVE is no different. Like I said, If EVE is so different then why did you bother training for T2 Arty's?

I did and I laughed. OP is just repeating what every whiner on the forums currently thinks.

For real OP? G>T>F>O.

That could be a solution. I'll make myself clear in that I havent come into this thread saying "Nerf everything about TM". I would be happy to find a reasonable solution that could curb the TM spamming trend. A "Slight" damage reduction without touching the buffs etc would be fine, but this is another approach which could work. Tracer missile needs a tweak and theres no doubt in my mind about that, I dont want to see the class made impotent as a result however.

Thats exactly what I'm saying and its true, all of it. I'ts exactly what I did myself and I had no real problems topping DPS and kill charts in my first week as a level 50. Heres some tips: * Ilum and Belsavis dailies will give you 2 lv50 (lv50 not lv49) purple mods each day and roughly 150-200k. * Level 46 pvp vendor weapons contain an Expertise mod, granting 25 expertise. You can make use of 8 of these mods on a full orange armor set. Thats 200 Expertise upon entering level 50. * The GTN now offers more level 50 Purple gear. This gear is as good as Centurion or Tionese gear and some is almost on a par with Champion/Columi gear in terms of stats. The prices of these items is falling rapidly aswell, meaning you can usually grab some pieces for 50-100k each. There are solutions, people are just too lazy to find out what they are or are too lazy to actually carry it out.

Like I said, you could have 200 expertise upon entering the lv50 bracket. In fact you could have 200 expertise at level 45, most people CBA finding out how or CBA earning the WZ comms to do it however. You could also have lv50 purple mods from Belsavis/Ilum dailies. You could save some cash and buy some of the very good lv50 purple crafted gear thats starting to appear on the GTN. Like I said though, thats too much effort for a lot of people and the laziness of a lot of people on here is astonishing.

I find this change laughable. A fresh 50 can go into lv50 pvp with 200 expertise. That is more than enough to help them feel like they can challenge a bit. Too many fresh 50s go into level 50 PvP undergeared, a lot of them are undergeared for lv48 or 49, nevermind lv50. If these whiners put more time and effort into acquiring the gear thats available to them and less time whining on forums they would be in much better shape. People are just lazy and CBA finding out ways to help themselves, and thats the problem here.

Thats because there isnt really any other skill that buffs so many others. You can probably explain better than I can, exactly which skills and abilities TM actually buffs. I'm aware it grants armor reduction, it grants increased defence and a myriad of other buffs etc. For a skill that does all that, the actual damage of the said skill is too high. The damage output of TM should be closer to that of your basic 'Free skill' and 1.2k with 1.8-2k crits would be much more sensible damage output, especially considering how high you can actually get your crit chance with it. I'll reiterate, its not massivley OP or anything but it does need toning down a touch. EDIT: And btw, a slight (Yes Slight, being roughly 1.8k reduction over 3 shots) would not effect your rotation at all as the buffs would remain the same.

If youve never had a 3k+ hit with TM youre either cryotech or just bad. Plus the PvE armor set bonus gives you a 15% greater chance to crit with TM, meaning you can realistically have a 40-45% crit chance on TM even without relics or adrenals.

And it has 4m range and a longer cooldown.... theres pros and cons to each. TM needs tweaking and thats the top and bottom of it. I understand every BH/Trooper and his dog coming on here to say "Its fine as it is" because none of us want our classes nerfed. The cold harsh reality is however, that Tracer Missile is putting out too much damage for a skill of that type.

Adding a damage cap of 2k or making it unable to crit would do the trick with TM. The fact that a builder skill can realistically hit for 3k+ is ridiculous. If you look around at other classes, you wont see any other 'Builders' do anywhere near the damage that TM does (Sundering strike certainly doesnt). It needs bringing in line with other similarly functioning skills.

Really? I havent heard this tbh but it would be an excellent move by BW.

Apparently the Sage 'Telekenisis" tree is now an Identical mirror to the sorc version in that the final skill now does Internal damage instead of Kinetic. Apparently.

That would be another benefit. You could actually make use of all the duplicates.

This is a straight up request to Bioware: Allow us to completely de-modify Centurion/Champion/Battlemaster gear. It would enable us to strip all three mods from the sets, allowing us to place them on orange gear. That orange gear would inherit all the same stats and bonuses from the gear we removed the mods from. It would actually give synthweavers and armormechs genuine purpose again and would allow us all to gain some originality with our toons. Cmon Bioware, allow us to strip that Armor mod and let us be original again.

Tbh I totally forgot about the inventory bag, so thats 14!! This is too difficult for a lot of people to comprehend however. That realistically you could have 200 upon entering lv50 pvp, plus you can gain more the same day by completing your dailies/weeklys.