To be honest I do not see a lot of questions. Just a bunch of statements

Legalize the selling of gold huh? Sure why not go ahead make it okay to buy GOLD. I do not know about the rest of you, but I think I will keep working on farming credits, selling things on the GTN for credits and so on while this man here spends all his hard earned RL cash on GOLD. After all it won't effect those of us using credits. So go on good sir and buy that GOLD if they legalize it.

Oh gosh everyone! I had no idea we were making monthly payments to enjoy our forums!! They game is clearly not making progress so let us pick the most irrelevant topics in the thread, or the ones that sound least intelligent so that we may try to make ourselves look better. Good game bioware let's just focus on the least important matters and as usual hide behind soon, at a later date, it is being worked on comments. Glad that the MMO I am paying for is becoming forum based focused.

Done with the thread or not you clearly do NOT PAY ATTENTION. The issues that the majority of those who have quit, going to quit, or just have a complaint about the game has very little to do with what there is to do. Yes that is a complaint and yes it is a problem, but the bigger picture of the issue is the simple fact that most of these major bugs should be fixed. Not just the bugs either no, it is also the lack of communication with the community on THEIR WEBSITE. Even off their site you might find SOME news, but it is hardly relevant. There is no solving bugs and they have poor customer service beyond the likes I have ever seen. BTW their recent podcast was bragging about themselves, bashing the community, oh and thinking of ways to make the game so THEY the DEVELOPERS could enjoy it not their subscribers.

Okay...I get tired of people saying we need to be patient knowing full well a large majority of us have had patience. Example of my patience here would be the fact that I had poor customer service. I had just finished my class quest on Voss and it had suddenly disappeared. FYI this was back in February. The class quest was NOT in my quest LOG. So I could not reset it, I could not pick it up from somebody nor could I start a conversation related to it ANYWHERE. I checked out every possible solution that I could do myself and found no answers. So, I decided to send in a ticket and Bioware responded appropriately at first. The key word being at first. They had no idea how to fix it so they escalated it. When they did they asked me a certain number of questions to which I replied in detail. They could not resolve and escalated again. Again I got the same questions and again I answered down to the tiniest of details. Still no solution. This went on for about a WEEK until I finally gave up. You know what I did then? I deleted the character. flamed a little (and had every right to do so), then sucked it up and moved on. I have spent several months thinking, "Hey this will get better with time." But no my server died and i started over AGAIN on a new server. I do not even want to begin on the list of bug fixes unsolved, the new ones they cause trying to fix the useless bugs that effects hardly anything (The missing matrix cubes we so kindly had to deal with another maintenance day for), the lack of communication to the community and the poor customer service. So please stop asking for patience we are hitting the 6 month marker soon with little to no improvement. The only valid excuses that are out the window would be, they are new to MMO's which is false and the second would be that MMO's are fresh to the gaming world and they are NOT. MMO's have been around for years now and so they have plenty of things to use as prime examples of what mistakes NOT to make. TL;DR: I had the patience with a missing class quest that never got fixed because the customer service and tech support are poor. It has been almost six months, Half a year for those who do not get that this is a VERY lengthy time period to get their stuff in order. Too many major bugs are still around and new ones come with every minor one that is fixed. So being patient has gone and past it is time we start getting the proper services and not a bunch of Dev's bragging about themselves and bashing their own community.

My theory is that you post for the simple sake of posting with no logical meaning other than the wanted attention.

You want a discussion on a thread you have made several times over. Which, by the way, some have been closed as it is. Oh and FYI I removed the orange text in your quote so nobodies eyes have to suffer.

Is anybody else enjoying the fact that Sarfux has been posting the exact same thing every time his thread gets closed. The only thing that changes are the amount of words he uses. By the way the orange text does not make it cool. All it does is make it feel as if my eyes are going to puke.

We as players, consumers, customers or whatever you wish to label us should not have to "hunt" for information on the MMO that we are playing. They should be telling us this information without having to do an easter egg search in hopes for some kind of news from them. Talk about poor customer service if that is what they expect us to do.

Despite the fact that the color of your text just made my eyes puke. I feel I must point out that people are not un-subing just because they rushed to level 50. You are neglecting the fact that bioware has been incapable of fixing their bugs and has poor customer service. When they "fix" things it is usually something useless and does not effect the player base as a whole. When said bug is "fixed" suddenly new bugs arise and old ones return. Need I remind you about the matrix cube fiasco. Their customer service is by far inadequate. I spent an entire week explaining to them why I was un-able to progress my story line back in January. They wanted the same information every single time they supposedly escalated it to the "proper" group to help me with the issue. By the way....the issue was never resolved. I had to start over and level up to the end of chapter 3, which is also the LAST part, AGAIN. So please, do not assume all of those players who un-sub only rush to 50. I never rushed to 50 and am waiting out my free month at this point because I was patient and gave bioware time. The truth is this game has failed on several levels. So next time do a little research and realize there is a large player base quitting for a legitimate purpose.

So in part of their pod cast (which they seem to have taken more time on than fixing bugs and important issues within the game itself) they mention that their teams LOVE to play the game. Are they playing a different game then us? Because they sure do not seem capable of solving issues that need to be solved as far as end game bugs and so forth. If they do fix some minor useless bug issues that effects nobody they manage to create a new major bug that effects EVERYONE. Need I remind you guys the missing matrix cubes. It is nice to see the developers are more focused on a pod cast and glorifying themselves rather than repairing the damage they have done to an ever slowly drop of subscribers. A good percentage will be gone once the free month is up as well.

Here is the thing for those of us who are level headed and disappointed with the game. It COULD be a great game and should be one at that. However, between veteran Dev's who can't fix bugs without causing new major ones and poor customer service why complain about the players who leave? After all it is their money and they expect a quality gaming experience and are not receiving it. With a game that has had years in the works with roughly a year of Beta and going into the half year mark now since release we should be better of than this. The only valid excuse would be if they WERE new to the MMO world, but they are not. Not to mention the fact the the MMO genre itself is not new to the world so they had plenty of things to learn FROM. By the way if you did your research you would see the RIFT had just as clean, if not cleaner, launch as TOR and TOR still has not gotten past its launch hiccups.

You seem to mistake pointing out flaws in the game for whining as well. Either way you are walking a double edged sword my friend. No matter what side of the spectrum you are on somebody is going to see something whiney about it. It does not matter if you love/hate or are somewhere in between. There is always a little bit of whining, but within the whining there is a little bit of truth on both sides. It is only a matter of whether or not you can handle the truth.Oh and by the way saying the game doesn't suck is a matter of opinion just like it is for those who claim it sucks. It is not the game that is the issue anyway. It is the developers and customer service all wrapped in to one that need to get together and think straight before they ruin a possible good thing.

^ This. Not much more needs to be added other than the fact that you can also say 4. They are Veteran MMO developers. 5. We are reaching the 6 month marker.

Those in red are false by both accounts. First off if you watch the credits you will notice a good number of veteran developers. Second of all RIFT had a MUCH cleaner first year than SW:TOR is having right now.

^^^ This right here. We should NOT have to do Biowares job. By all means if you wanna do it more power to you. Just keep in mind seeing as you are doing work (not to mention those who transfer would have to, not only start over their character, but start over legacy with little to no chance of getting THEIR original legacy name) that bioware should be doing you should be paid. Instead you are doing it for free. Good luck to those of you that follow through, but I am a firm believer in making the developers DO THEIR JOB. Which they are failing at rather well.

I am so sorry you feel you can't live without this game. I hope for the sake of your life it keeps on running cause if it flops what ever would you do.

Lol I am sorry I just find it ironic that there is a post out here whining about whiners.

I beg to differ. My father is middle aged and can still play the fast pace games with a lot of explosions and he enjoys them. I am the one looking for the MMO's and such. And if you run into these happy-fun-time MMO's all overt he place you are looking in the wrong areas cause there are plenty that are NOT like that. So, being middle age is no reason to claim you NEED this game. Nobody NEEDS a game in the first place.

OMG....four days shy of five months. I had NO idea it was SO close to the half year mark. So you mean to tell me I have been spending almost a half a year saying to myself in silence "It's okay. If I just give Bioware anywhere between 6 months to a year things will be better." *with a tone of endearment* and now that we are close to that half a year mark and NOTHING has really gotten much better. I am sad that this is looking so terrible for SW:TOR and I am close to have spent six month of my life hoping for better. New bugs while trying to patch old ones and still not fixing major ones is not an improvement when getting this close to half a year of being released people. I for one am that things are looking so bleak.

I would have to say being patient most certainly is ONE thing. It is another for poor customer service and their in-ability to properly fix bugs without causing new ones or bringing old bugs back. I can say this simply because I HAVE been patient. The worst bug I had EVER ran into, and lucky for Bioware I seem to have been the only one unless those others have already unsubscribed (and I do not blame them), would be when I was unable to continue my class quest. I had not been able to progress this quest because the quest itself had completely disappeared. When I say disappeared I mean I could not reset or pick it up or anything. There was nothing in my quest log and I could not return to any spot where it would be next or where I had already gone. The worst part was I was PATIENT I waited and gave them every little detail about what had happened that you could imagine. They could NOT fix it and kept asking for the same information over and over and over. Eventually I got fed up and deleted my character and started over. To top it off, because there are too many servers I have also played this character for the third time and started over because I had to change servers because there are so few players these days. This is excluding the amount of time I spent on this class in the beta to help bug test it. I am still around and giving Bioware a chance, but not many people have the kind of patience I do. And those who know MMO's know that even with a fresh MMO game from companies who haven't ever made one before know that they tend to be on their game when correcting bugs than Bioware has been thus far. So giving Bioware time can only go so far.

And whose problem is that? Not mine. Why should I let some internet bully discourage me from helping others? If they want laugh at me for answering their question. Fine. At least they are laughing. I think you miss understood what i was saying on my last sentence. I was referring to the players who ask the simple questions may simply be doing so to annoy others. Either way I never said let it be a problem or to discourage. Rather I meant don't let such things discourage you.

I do not think you people seem to understand. I just simply posted for those who have such a thought process. Frankly I could careless hence the reason that it doesn't bother me if this thread gets closed. Over all I feel it is rather pathetic that so many thought this was supposed to be the "WoW" killer when it was never meant to be such a thing. The developers themselves said their goal was not to compete and or get rid of WoW.

Just sayin...and I know it will probably get closed soon, but please enjoy. http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/article/122/1220572/Picture3_1331583931.jpg

Yes because constantly saying please and placing exclamation points will get their attention. There are more important issues they still need to fix than the fact that you are annoyed by little droids.