Going this crazy over a slot machine.......a decoration. You had your week of mourning, I believe it's time to move on.

rofl Do you know the definition of balance. That doesn't even add up to 100%, that's like 140% chance to drop something and you haven't even calculated the extra coin or when you lose.

Honestly I want to know how this got past them. Everyone understood how out of balance it was the first day it was released. It was like the dev team never tested the thing in any kind of environment.

TBH, there were more people saying it killed crew missions than the economy. It would be hard to justify a nerf of this magnitude by saying it was the economy only. If all it did was lower the cost of good they might have actually not nerfed it that bad (that appeared to be one of their objectives after all since they thought mats were too rare). However making it so the slot machine was the only viable option (over crew skills) to farm mats is never going to stay in game. If the devs only released the slot with rep items and a rare drop of cartel certificate, thing would have still be very popular. I mean cartel certificates are a rare drop in packs, I had only amassed 30 before the slot machine. It would take over a million credits in packs on the GTN to get a cartel certificate. So even with its nerfed version the drop rate is not unreasonable. It just seems that way because the drop rate was set to God Mode initially. It was their mistake to not properly test this thing because a monkey could see how bad this was for crew skills. So the complaints should be aimed at their quality control process not at bringing back something that was unbalanced.

My guess is the main objective of the slot machine was to give rep. That it does perfectly. So as you say it is worthless once you attain max rep (which is done rather quickly) but everyone will always play the slots for a set amount of time to attain max rep. Saying no one uses it, that's saying everyone has max rep which I know is not true. Amazingly some of my guild members had yet to even use it as of this week. I think it's pretty obvious this is all they want it to do now. They experimented with the idea of it being a way to introduce more grade 11 mats and found it caused more damage than anticipated. My guess is whatever they decide to change it won't be for the current slot machine it will be for the next one. Gotta have a reason to make you purchase after all.

I know it's a shock but some people might actually like to play the game different from you. But to answer your question, no not just to craft. It was one of many reasons including going through ALL the storylines for all characters, unlocking all the legacy perks, unlocking all companions for the stat boost, and I can go on and on. Crafting, yes that is one reason but it wasn't the only.

lol I had three slot machines surrounding me. The only thing slowing me down was the global cooldown that is about 1-2 seconds. So I had about 35 plays every min on the slot machine. No joke, got about 3 purple mats per min and the numbers actually BACK ME UP on that. I don't have to guess, I over 1.5k in purple mats before I stopped counting and just started crafting. I'm not going to say you are a liar, you are just ignorant of the facts. It's ok, everyone defending the slot machine with those drop rates was just fooling themselves thinking it was going to stay in game. I know it's hard to have an easy button taken away from you but seriously, get over it. And hey you want to change it so crew missions can only be run and finished if you are logged on, becareful what you wish for. You think the prices are bad now, they'll jump 10 fold. I'm all for it, do it. You think I care? I'd love more time to run ops and flashpoints and dailies. Then I can sell my augments for a mill a piece. And you think I'm exaggerating, if the devs are saying the mats before the slot machine were too rare, you are basically removing 90% of my drops from crew missions with a change like that which would be the case for most of the gathers/crafters. So again, get the devs to do it. Either way I'll still sell my wares for the going rate which I can assure would make your jaw drop the moment something like that is implemented.

This is the biggest load of....,...I could win 10x more mats in 10 mins of clicking the slot than I could in loading missions on all 8 toons of mine which btw took over 30 mins to set up. You obviously are confused because NOONE had to stay clicking the slots for more than 10 mins unless they wanted to. Greed was the only thing keeping them there clicking. So please stop with the "bu bu but I had to stay there clicking and winning more and more.......don't you feel sorry for me because the drop rate is so good I can't do dailies or run ops".

According to the devs basically yes, why else would you see a drastic drop in missions run? Heck the time it takes to cycle through the missions getting the right one (I'm talking about clicking it) you could have already won several jawa junk. We are not even talking the cost of the mission being riculously overpriced either. So yeah the crew skills were working for those with an IQ of Forest Gump.

Again, if that was the case everyone wouldn't be complaining about "GTN Whales", they be too busy pressing 2 or 3 buttons sometimes. The proof is the pudding, no one wants to invest the time and credits into getting a good crafting setup. If they did you wouldn't care what people sold their products for.

At least you admit the hard work involved in crafting. Over the past two weeks I've read nothing but crafters sale overpriced stuff for doing nothing but pressing a button. If it was soooo easy people would be doing it themselves. Setting up a good crafting setup takes a ton of time and credits. I do understand your point that they wanted to make grade 11 materials more available, because they plainly said it. However after looking at the results they were left with a dilemma, leave the slot machine as a good source to acquire materials BUT they would need to change crew skills enough so it was still a more viable choice over the slot machine considering the time/credit investment doing through crew skills. They opted for the easy fix, nerf the slot machine completely and keep crew skills the same. No coding or thinking required.

I believe the outrage from the NGE in galaxies is they didn't announce ANY of the changes until after people purchased the expansion. It was really wrong of them to not warn people since the game was completely changed with the NGE, I should know I had a fully leveled Jedi (unlocked before they nerfed it) and it was pretty bad. It's nothing compared to a slot machine, I mean come on. The only reason people are so upset is because once you get a taste of the good life, it's soooooo hard to go back.

the experience boosts and companion gifts are about as annoying as getting that jawa gram.

How funny, I bought a hypercrate hoping for a slot machine and got the vorantikus lol. I couldn't sell the vorantikus but I was able to buy the slot machines from the GTN. Funny how it worked out.

^^^This right here. People keep saying how bad crafters are and how mad they are at the prices.....yet no one gets off their duff and make it themselves. That's exactly what I did. I was tired of paying prices when I know I could get it 1/4 of the cost if I made it myself. So I decided to level a couple toons. Pretty soon it was so awesome I ended up with 8 toons fully leveled (thanks 12X exp....it made it possible to level from 40-55 on 5 of the 8 toons). So two options, buy it from people who invested the time or make it yourself using crew missions..........what everyone complaining appears to want is an EASY BUTTON. That's what the slot machine was.....I could watch a movie and "play" the slots getting more mats than I ever did. Sorry the EASY BUTTON was nerfed but I am hopeful they can get something on their that is appealing once you get max rep.

There are easier ways to earn money than running around competing with everyone else for slicing nodes. Saying this needs a nerf, now I know people have literally lost their minds over this slot machine.

But it does take millions. The time spent leveling each toon to max level to get max companions on missions takes a LOT of time and money because again, you need to get max affection for each companion, upgrade the legacy crafting, and pay for all the crafting skills/missions while leveling each crew mission. Oh and you have to also count the time spent NOT doing dailies or other things that would have generated cash while you were doing these things. Trust me, I made no money as I was leveling all these toons. It wasn't until I was finished that I really saw all the work pay off with being able to cycle through 8 toons. So this is why I laughed at people saying it wasn't a big deal with the slot machine giving uber returns compared to missions. I worked harder running missions and cycling through all of them and still didn't sniff a tenth of what I got in the same time on the slot machine.

I think at first the slot machine was mainly created for attaining reputation but they did mention they were concerned over how scarce the grade 11 mats were with a couple months into the patch. So based on that comment by Eric, I'm assuming at the last moment they threw in the mats. The certs and reputation appears to be by design while the mats were there to "fix" the problem they thought the game had.....unfortunately no one tests these things and we got what we got.

Slot machine doesn't exist, prices went up almost immediately. I was down to 60k for relics......it's now selling 150-180k again. Probably can go higher in another week when the rest of the supply from jawa is used up. The crew missions are very time consuming to get mats. If everyone ran their own missions prices wouldn't be as high but people would rather not have to invest in leveling the crew mission, getting max affection, and buying the legacy crafting. All that takes time and an investment in money. Most would just rather buy it once and be done with it.

Who would have thought.......a job no one wants to do but everyone needs the job to be done and the person gets paid through the roof to do it. It's funny when I go get my car looked at and I end up with $500 in charges and more than half of that is labor (2 hours of work). If I don't like the prices I could always learn to fix my car but that would require an investment in time. Most don't want to do that and just take the car in and swallow the $100 per hour fee. This is how society works, if the majority of people don't want to do something but need that service, prepare to pay through the roof for it.

186 crafted mods > 186 Basic Com gear You get better stats if you use the crafted mods. 186 gear is required for end game content. So to start end game content you need 186 gear, I don't think that means the same thing as it being starter gear. Starter gear is the crap they give you when you reach level 10. Now I guess you could say if you are starting end game content then I suppose this is starter gear for that.

Eric is the bullet proof vest and is there to take the hits. Why people want him fired is beyond me......what, do they think the next community leader is going to stand up to the devs telling them "No, we are not going to do that because people on the forum will be upset".

Actually if you buy packs and get cartel certificates from there, the rep is not useless. I only started playing about 7 months ago, never had the chance to get rep from there and the packs on the GTN were scarce and very expensive. The rep items from this pack have been coveted for a while. Of course now everyone will have a command chair but as long as I get mine!

I have an idea, they know exactly what people won over the week. Personally I have over 450 certs, that's just me alone. Imagine people who put a BOT on that thing? I only did it every night for an hour or two. The fact they neutered the thing means they did not expect people to play it so much? Honestly Im sticking with the dev who thought up the drop rates on everything did so while playing candy crush on the toilet .

By Friday we are going to have part 10 redux........ I think the devs get it, you are not happy, drops suck, you want reparation, and the devs like to kick kittens.