You're very right. More has never meant better. Which is why we now have a minimum ability gate per role as part of our recruitment process. In regs: All single target dps specs must be able to post 2.5k, all pressure specs must be able to break 3k. In regs: All Sorc heals must be able to break 5k hps, all Scouop heals must be able to break 4.5k and Merc heals, something something, smh nobody plays it anyways. In regs: Tanks must be able to pull 1mil+ prot, do decent dmg and be very situationally aware, peels, swaps, etc. You won't see this in every match as there are variables and we do play objectively, but prioritize dmg/heals/prot. These are minimum standards and are far from what we shoot for in reg matches. This doesn't mean all of our players are mlg5000 OG RANKED oozing with 1337 midichloian countz, only some of us . But seriously, nobody in guild is near satisfied with where they are at. "huh huh, Beavis, he said 'regs'." That's right. Not everyone is required to give a sh^t about ranked and some players just don't care for it as a game mode. 99% of PvP in this game is regs and you're fooling yourself if you think this game has a competitive bone in its programming (current ranked design, no cross server, low pop, etc.). That said, many of us in guild do ranked and take it seriously. All of us take regs with a grain of salt but try (hard:p) to perform. TS is not required for regs and queue syncing is forbidden and never aimed for (doesn't mean we wont have 2 groups that incidentally get placed in the same match when running multiple groups). If we have to carry bad pugs, then we have to carry bad pugs. I love peeps that flame without toon names in their sig (smh) My experience with mmos and flaming and epeening and sh^t... It all makes me laugh. It's a video game! And probably the least competitive mmo on the market. . Congratulations, You're flaming. You're an idiot. But thanks. the 3 or 4 that we picked up have been a welcome addition. ^EDIT: Bah Pop just told me who you are. My troll detector needs new batteries. wp. With all of the above, I personally think we have a grown a bit too fast for my liking, not from a quality perspective , but from personality perspective. I have no intention of making this the "go-to" pvp megaguild pubside. Medium size at most with solid bridges with to other guilds on the server. As of right now, all recruitment doors are shut until we adjust to our current membership unless we are truly impressed or is a prior contact. Give us a week to adjust and we will re-open a slow, careful, recruitment process. The final and most important "gate" is the doucher gate. Cuz in the end who you play with, the fun aspect, is more important than what you do.

Edit: Ahh nevermind irrelevant.

One thing I didn't quite get or may have missed is, what was the catalyst for r2d2 to power back up? Anybody know?

I didn't have time to read the whole thread got to like page 3. People seem to be forgetting that there is a big possibility that Rey did have training. Her flashback seemed to indicate that she had encountered Luke before. Very possible Luke wiped her mind (jedi mind tricks anyone?) when the turmoil with Ren occurred during Luke's training of Ren and other pupils (was Rey also a pupil?). Luke gives up training others and decides to throw her on Jakku. It's possible that the "force awakening" in Rey was previous training coming back + strong in the force. That's how I saw it when she first starts using force persuade on the trooper while captive. Also. Ren was injured. Ren is not fully trained. Ren isn't trying to kill Rey through most of the fight but trying to convince her to join him. Ren is conflicted himself in terms of dark/light. /2creds

Shade Shadow Voidstar Overall Protection 2,948,473 Rank 1 http://i.imgur.com/C7GAGTI.jpg Wait wat? Wrong server. Again. P.S. I'm bad. Just ask Darkness.

Shade Shadow Civil War Overall Damage/750k+Protection 4,070,799 Total Rank 1 http://i.imgur.com/QbD6WtY.jpg

Shade Shadow Voidstar Overall Protection 2,948,473 Rank 1 http://i.imgur.com/C7GAGTI.jpg

^^ Yaull would be fools to not take this guy. He's legit good. Anyways welcome to Harb guys. Glad to have some better players pubside moving here since 4.0 landed

Edit: meh, deleted post got deleted. Bump tho!

As someone who primarily tanks in pvp i definitely agree that tanking puts them closer to even. The way i see it healers mitigate/counter damage, whereas tanks mitigate/counter burst and focus. Sorcs/Sages and survive the burst better due to having big heals available frequently and cast-free/on-the-move. The main issue is roaming mend which can double bounce to the same target if a tgt's health is still lowest in frames after his first bounce. Low health targets like around 5-10% usually take the first and third bounce of this smart heal provided the rest of the raid frames are not also desparately low. So you can easily get an instant, 20k heal off to the same target, if both ticks crit and his health was low enough (when u really needed it to do this) no other smart heal works like this and in essence gives you a smart-reallyburstywhenyouneedit-heal. Imo you only need to apply the same casting requirements the other two classes have to stand still for big heals and have the possiblity to be interupted. To do this i would throw roaming on a 1.5s cast timer (same as gcd to not lose the hps potential) and code the smart heal aspect to not tick the same target twice, and buffed mends would wait on their last target if less than 4 targets are in range, until other targets arrive. Disclamer: i have, but do not main a sage healer and experience with such is nubian-pleb-lyfe. As compared to Nala or Tykhelituss who played sorc/sage b4 it was cool If I'm wrong on any of this please correct me:o

Idk about defense being completely useless. Ive been parsing my dtps in regs and over the last 4 days and approx 30% of my incoming damage is melee/ranged as an overall average.

I dont know if i could trust queueing yolos pubside tbh. And dont get me wrong i infinitely prefer pubs over the faction George Lucas admittedly modeled after Nazi Germany. I will only play regs pubside for that RPer in me. But for ranked, until we have cross faction, and while the player pools are separated, i will only queue on the faction with the largest population where pops happen and elo and fair random grouping has a chance to work. I hope (but doubt) they will get their collective thumbs out of their arses and implement cross faction - even if just for yolos. As its hardly a representation of true rating/elo unless you have a single pool of randomness.

I think this whole issue is pretty funny cuz... Wait for it... They don't HAVE to get 4X/Pierce. I mean. I have more companions than I know what to do with now. Probably somewhere around 15-20 companions. They are ALL completely homogenized. They all do exactly the same stuff now. Clearly this ONE companion per faction was designed for PVPers. So if you don't want to PVP, don't get this companion. Period. And if you're a "completionist" then you should be PVPing anyway for the achievements. You will have 3-5x the companions needed to max crafting missions at any one time without 4X/Pierce.

This. Good DPS can tear tanks apart. Consideringing decent hps at around 5k and great hps 6-7 k (which healers don't get by healing a single tgt) all you need is 3 dps who can pull more than 2.5 in a burst windows (most burst classes can pull 5-6 k or higher in their burst window ) or sustained classes pulling 3-3.5k and that tank is done. I don't care how OP you think healing is, they can't pull 12-15k hps. Lack of dps is your issue OP.

And this is why balance won't be, in your words, "restored". Fair weather eh?

Go sage heals - vigilence guardian. Good dps and most effect stance dance to throw guard on her when needed. Taunts + intercede too.

Don't take shield/absorb augments. Use endurance augs only. Unfortunately stock tank gear from the PvP vendors are horribly optimized. For full tankiness you will want to replace all of your mods for high endurance, defense B mods (tank gear currently comes with A mods). You will want to replace all of your mid endurance enhancements for the high endurance shield/defense, absorb/defense enhancements. These have the least amount of defense possible (the trade for high endurance). U will find with the 5% shield chance buff PTs/VGs got with 4.0 your mit stats are about the same as pre-4.0 but with more defense and a ton of health. like 84-85k for VG. Now in my opinion mitigation for tanks in PvP is highly over-rated as damage profiles in PvP are quite different than pve. Your most valuable stats as a pvp tank are endurance and flat damage reduction which you get from your discipline and cooldowns.

As far as what the OP asks for, the ability to stick on a target and stay in their face. It's Fury Mara or Concealment Op. Fury cuz 6s cc/physics immune every 30s, cleanse roots with pred, Pred itself. Clease roots with camo, Camo itself, Mad dash. 30m leap, 10m leap that can be used on tgts in cover. Ops cuz friendly/enemy shadowstep, 24m of roll every 10s, speed on shiv, speed on sneak, Combat stealth. My 2 creds anyway.

U are in different brackets 10-39 and 40-64 (I think anyway).

Not sure, Can US server chars be transferred to EU servers? Heard there was an legal thing with this at BW so didn't allow. Again not sure though.

:eek:Wow grats. Looks like it was an epic match.

Posting for a guildy Overall healing: 4,930,157 Rank: 2 Toon: Argisor Class: Sage Type: WZ Link: http://i.imgur.com/BDvSTS0.jpg Need a category for [Overall healing in default 188 un-aug'd free 60 gear]. Cuz that's what he was wearing.

Overall protection: 1,921,564 Rank: 1 Toon: Wonderwomanpwnz Class: Shadow Type: WZ Link: http://i.imgur.com/iz2Ivmf.jpg?1 Overall protection/damage: 1,921,564/1,549,997 (3,471,561) Rank: 1 Toon: Wonderwomanpwnz Class: Shadow Type: WZ Link: http://i.imgur.com/iz2Ivmf.jpg?1

Great info. Thanks!

Overall protection: 1,893,574 Rank: 1 Toon: Wonderwomanpwnz Class: Shadow Type: WZ Link: http://i.imgur.com/QerkIzn.jpg Overall protection/damage: 1,835,671/1,402,347 (3,238,018) Rank: 1 Toon: Wonderwomanpwnz Class: Shadow Type: WZ Link: http://i.imgur.com/V32povW.jpg Oh *****. Sorry bois. Wait. Which server is this for again?